Last Friday Robin Hoffman interviewed me again on her radio show, The Feminine Soul. We discussed recovering from a relationship with a sociopath. She asked two very important questions, “How do we avoid picking another sociopath in the future?” and “How can we ever trust our instincts again?”
Coincidentally, yesterday I received this letter from a reader:
I got involved recently with a man who seemed to be the opposite of my previous psychopath. All the traits I like, strong, dominant, etc but seemed to have a good heart, and importantly a good history. I checked him out, he had a long service in the police force and a voluntary youth organization, was widely respected and successful.
Recognizing my vulnerability, I kept my eyes and ears open, and my heart guarded.
After 3 weeks I started to spot inconsistencies, tested a bit, and noticed the feeling of cognitive dissonance and didn’t ignore it.
After 6 weeks I ended the relationship, even though part of me was screaming inside “no, don’t do it”. Only afterwards did I discover that not only was he cheating on a wife who had cancer, but he was also cheating on a long term girlfriend, who genuinely loved him and is devastated. He was playing with fire by putting us both on the same webpage and we got chatting without having any idea of the relationships involved and it all came out. I’ve given her a link to saferelationships.com and can only hope she learns from the experience.
I SO proud of myself. I got out before getting involved, so it didn’t hurt. The experience was positive in that I made a different choice, for me. My stop light is starting to work and I’m learning I can trust my instincts again.
There are three parts of ourselves that are “taken” by the sociopath. The first part is the conscious mind. The sociopath fools the conscious mind by lies. It can be very difficult to detect these lies because skilled sociopaths use willing and unknowing accomplices to back up their lies. (This is why it is important for family members to distance themselves from the sociopath and his/her relationships.)
Sociopaths know to pick on trusting people. In general trusting people are loyal and trustworthy. These are good qualities so when your conscious mind is taken, you can be left with a lot of self-doubts. The strategy of carefully checking out people’s claims is a good one but it often takes time to uncover a sociopath’s lies.
Our unconscious minds also get “taken” in the sociopath’s con. Sociopaths are dominant and seductive. These traits may be arousing and attractive. I think that this may be in born. We may be attracted to these traits instinctively just like certain body parts are arousing for some.
Even though the attraction to the dominance and seductiveness of sociopaths may be instinctual, I don’t think we are stuck with it. I was able to train myself to be different and I want to share with you how I did it.
I am somewhat ashamed to say it took me too long to understand that I was drawn to sociopaths because of their dominance behavior. Once I understood this, I set out to find a way to feel differently about them. I wanted to like them less. I had always observed that there were some mental health professionals who were instinctively repulsed by sociopaths and I wanted to know what was different about them.
In studying the literature on dominance behavior and personality I discovered that dominance and empathy are opposed to each other. When dominance motives are in play empathy is turned off. The hormones of dominance also turn off empathy. The opposite is also true empathy and affection also suppress dominance motives.
Armed with this knowledge I set out to study men I knew who had long track records of loving empathetic behavior. I spent hours talking with them about their views of love, life and life’s purpose. I did this until the lesson had sunk in emotionally not just intellectually. A fully human person, male or female is loving and devoted. He or she is able to control dominance motives and express them only when appropriate.
Since this emotional lesson sunk in, I have found myself actually repulsed by dominant people. I no longer admire them or find them entertaining. Instead, I emotionally experience them as they are, shallow and lacking in important qualities.
Sociopaths also “take us” on another level. They manipulate us into forming bonds with them. These bonds are unconscious and chemical- whether the sociopath is a family member or lover. Breaking a bond with a sociopath is very painful. We do not have to be enslaved by our human bonds, we can acknowledge them and realize that at times these bonds have to be broken even though doing so is painful and difficult.
To sum it up then your new wiser mindset may have many aspects to it. Wisdom is a practice as well as a state of mind.
Thank you Wiserandhealing, you just made me cry, but with tears of hope 🙂
Dear Letgoletgod,
Depression is very much genetic and if your mom is depressed it is quite likely that some of your problem and pain is depression based.
Think of it like if your mom was DAIBETIC. She had to take insulin every day to keep her sugar under control. And you were to say “well I don’t want to be like her so I am not going to the doctor even though I have the same symptoms of HIGH BLOOD SUGAR SHE DOES. I don’t want to “end up like her.”
NOT TREATING THE PROBLEM ISN’T GOING TO KEEP YOU FROM ENDING UP “LIKE HER” BUT MORE LIKELY TO MAKE YOU HAVE PROBLEMS.
Sugar, get your canoe out of DENIAL, it is NOT a river in Egypt. Depression is a chemical imbalance with genetic components just like diabetes is a herediatary chemical imbalance. Yes, eating right can help your sugar control, and exercise, but you know what, if you need it and you don’t take the medication, you will get worse not better. BOINK–that’s the sound of my skillet striking the top of your lovely head, but with all the love and concern I can hit you with!!! (((Hugs))))
wiserandhealing that is refreshing to hear. Yes, it does get better after the initial shock wears off. You have to allow yourself the time to heal and it will happen. You have to force yourself to go through the depths of despair … cause they do cause despair. And think about it … we’re not used to the depth of despair … it’s frightening, it’s lonely … we have to do it for ourselves … it’s not a trip you can make with anyone else but all by yourself.
Then that day comes … we don’t know how or why … but there it is … it’s light … no gloom, no despair … the birds are singing … the air smells so sweat … the sun feels so warm on our skin …
I am so happy that you made it back into the light.
Peace to you and your future better you … stronger, wiser and willing to heal.
dear wiser,
you’re right about seeing differently. I honestly feel that I can see for the first time in 2 years. At the bottom of the sadness and the hurt there’s relief that it’s over.
Just think Letgoletgod: Even though we all go through our own despair on our own … we still have this blogg to talk with each other … that helping hand reaching out to each and every one of us.
Peace sweetheart … you’ll get there … it’s just that it’s so mind boggling and overwhelming … wrapped up in why wasn’t my love good enough to heal it.
It was though … we just haven’t gotten to that step of the journey … just keep sending your love out there … let it expand into the universe … it’s not being wasted.
The love within you is healing you … be patient … be good to yourself … pamper yourself. You will get there … it just takes time.
letgoletgod,
I am experiencing a similar thing as you. Obsession about the S, worry about my preference in men, and bad dreams involving the S and his girlfriend. The few men who I am talking with all tell me about all the women they cheat on and their sordid dating pasts. It’s like I am a sociopath magnet. I am almost to the point where I wonder if there are any decent men out there. And if there are, why aren’t I meeting any? I think it’s because all those nice men have rings on their fingers and are good fathers and husbands. I have to admit that I really have no interest in the normal nice guy that will stand by me and bore me to death. I am still totally afraid to date because there really is no one that I like. I don’t like the bad guys anymore and I don’t like the nice guys. I am glad Wini reminded you to dance, because it reminded me that it is exactly what I am going to do right now:)
Hello Everyone,
Everytime I plan on “just peeking” at this site, my heart strings get pulled. I find myself shaking my head, crying, rocking, putting my hand over my mouth. My heart starts pounding; at first it was reality slapping me in my face. What I was feeling, wondering, trying o hide from was right in front of me. So then what, I could no longer hide from reality, I had to do something. So now when I read new stories, my heart starts pounding but not with fear. It pounds with new found hope, faith and belief. I know it’s not going to change over night. At first I felt guilty that I was even thinking that my ex could be a sociopath. I thought I deserved everything that happened and all that I lost because I thought he “might be ” a sociopath. How could a person who always prided herself on loving unconditionally, possibly even think poorly of someone.
Letgoletgod: You said some about feeling full of anxiety, yet wanting to hide in your bed. I feel that way all the time. I also think of him before I wake up, the minute I wake up, all through the day and before I go to bed.
Stargazer: You said
“This guy really did cast some sort of a spell on me, and even after I figured out he was a pathological liar, I still felt this bond with him. For months, I felt this battle between my head and what I knew was the truth, and my heart that said love will conquer everything, even his lies. I followed my head, and slowly my heart has been following. The whole thing seems like a very bad nightmare with a strong feeling component that lingers.””
That’s my stoy in a nut shell…how can someone “BOND” with someone who has caused them so much pain.
Wiserandhealing:”I thought I would bleed forever”
Thank you for giving me hope!!!!!!
“a misfit, vacant eye’s, rationalize over and over why his behavior could, should, be accepted, anxiety, bitterness, regret” I have felt every word on every page. I have cried for you and with you. You helped me cry for myself.
Everynight I laid in the same bed with him, I never ever cried. I was afraid that if I cried I would cause him stress and my job was to keep his life free of stress by anticipating his every need before he had to mention it. “YOU will be submissive and obeident”.
I remember the day I could no longer pretend. I did not do something that or the way he wanted me to and he got very ridgged, his eye’s seemed as if they turned black dark and cold, he glared at me and said “you just wait you’ll see, you’ll learn, you’ll learn”. I did not let him see me gulp.
Yet latter that day I pretended nothing ever happened.
I can relate to everything every one has said.
************I feel crazy, I feel guilty for believing what I read on this web site, what if I am wrong, how could I think this way about someone I said I would love and cherish, through sickness and health..how am I any better than him. I abandoned him**************
I keep all of you in my prayers everyday.
Thank you for being here.
Love Molly
Hey Bird … didn’t they name a dance after you and little bird? The “chicken dance” … I love that dance at holiday events … it allows everyone to go up and dance … single … all in a line … no partners … just yourself having the best time of your life.
Reminds me of the poster at Cape Cod that states”WHAT IF THE HOKEY POKEY IS WHAT IT’S ALL ABOUT”.
Peace to you bird and the little bird.
Lauren,
“there are none so blind as he who WILL NOT SEE” and “None so deaf as he who will not hear”
How our minds “warp” our reality is funny, and I have found myself so deep in denial that I was literally BLIND to reality. They didn’t twist it, I TWISTED IT for myself, I “saw” what I wanted to see, “heard” what I wanted to hear, read what I wanted the pages to say.
It is only when we can SEE, HEAR and READ with UN-biased eyes, ears and reading skills. Our emotions many times bias our thinking to the point that we are blind, deaf and illiterate.
I have actually been so set on an opinion, that I actually “HALLUCINATED” words on a page to support my thinking because I was SO SURE I WAS RIGHT. When another person asked me to read them aloud, and I did, I saw that my own bias had made the words take a 180 degree twist to “prove” to me that I was right in my twisted biased opinion. That was a reality shock to me that made me “wake up” to how our emotions can “twist reality.” I can laugh at that “ah ha” moment now. I realize I can fool myself if I try hard enough, and twist my own reality. So I have to keep a good “eye” on myself to make sure I don’t fall for that again. That I don’t trip myself up with my own prejudices and biases.
Yeah Oxy … it’s called “loving them”. Love is blind …
And if you think about it … love is the greatest emotion to give out to the world.
Hey, we can’t help it if some don’t, will never, don’t want to, understand it! What counts is that we know what it is.
Peace.