Last Friday Robin Hoffman interviewed me again on her radio show, The Feminine Soul. We discussed recovering from a relationship with a sociopath. She asked two very important questions, “How do we avoid picking another sociopath in the future?” and “How can we ever trust our instincts again?”
Coincidentally, yesterday I received this letter from a reader:
I got involved recently with a man who seemed to be the opposite of my previous psychopath. All the traits I like, strong, dominant, etc but seemed to have a good heart, and importantly a good history. I checked him out, he had a long service in the police force and a voluntary youth organization, was widely respected and successful.
Recognizing my vulnerability, I kept my eyes and ears open, and my heart guarded.
After 3 weeks I started to spot inconsistencies, tested a bit, and noticed the feeling of cognitive dissonance and didn’t ignore it.
After 6 weeks I ended the relationship, even though part of me was screaming inside “no, don’t do it”. Only afterwards did I discover that not only was he cheating on a wife who had cancer, but he was also cheating on a long term girlfriend, who genuinely loved him and is devastated. He was playing with fire by putting us both on the same webpage and we got chatting without having any idea of the relationships involved and it all came out. I’ve given her a link to saferelationships.com and can only hope she learns from the experience.
I SO proud of myself. I got out before getting involved, so it didn’t hurt. The experience was positive in that I made a different choice, for me. My stop light is starting to work and I’m learning I can trust my instincts again.
There are three parts of ourselves that are “taken” by the sociopath. The first part is the conscious mind. The sociopath fools the conscious mind by lies. It can be very difficult to detect these lies because skilled sociopaths use willing and unknowing accomplices to back up their lies. (This is why it is important for family members to distance themselves from the sociopath and his/her relationships.)
Sociopaths know to pick on trusting people. In general trusting people are loyal and trustworthy. These are good qualities so when your conscious mind is taken, you can be left with a lot of self-doubts. The strategy of carefully checking out people’s claims is a good one but it often takes time to uncover a sociopath’s lies.
Our unconscious minds also get “taken” in the sociopath’s con. Sociopaths are dominant and seductive. These traits may be arousing and attractive. I think that this may be in born. We may be attracted to these traits instinctively just like certain body parts are arousing for some.
Even though the attraction to the dominance and seductiveness of sociopaths may be instinctual, I don’t think we are stuck with it. I was able to train myself to be different and I want to share with you how I did it.
I am somewhat ashamed to say it took me too long to understand that I was drawn to sociopaths because of their dominance behavior. Once I understood this, I set out to find a way to feel differently about them. I wanted to like them less. I had always observed that there were some mental health professionals who were instinctively repulsed by sociopaths and I wanted to know what was different about them.
In studying the literature on dominance behavior and personality I discovered that dominance and empathy are opposed to each other. When dominance motives are in play empathy is turned off. The hormones of dominance also turn off empathy. The opposite is also true empathy and affection also suppress dominance motives.
Armed with this knowledge I set out to study men I knew who had long track records of loving empathetic behavior. I spent hours talking with them about their views of love, life and life’s purpose. I did this until the lesson had sunk in emotionally not just intellectually. A fully human person, male or female is loving and devoted. He or she is able to control dominance motives and express them only when appropriate.
Since this emotional lesson sunk in, I have found myself actually repulsed by dominant people. I no longer admire them or find them entertaining. Instead, I emotionally experience them as they are, shallow and lacking in important qualities.
Sociopaths also “take us” on another level. They manipulate us into forming bonds with them. These bonds are unconscious and chemical- whether the sociopath is a family member or lover. Breaking a bond with a sociopath is very painful. We do not have to be enslaved by our human bonds, we can acknowledge them and realize that at times these bonds have to be broken even though doing so is painful and difficult.
To sum it up then your new wiser mindset may have many aspects to it. Wisdom is a practice as well as a state of mind.
Trimama,
welcome. Sorry you had to come here, but here is the right place.
You are experiencing addiction and withdrawal. Only time really helps but there are things you can do to make it go faster. Focus on learning everything you can about the disorder so that you can discern truth from lies. It is those lies that keep us stuck for so long. Once the lies are revealed and obvious to you, he will have much less power over you. After that you will start to learn about yourself and what made you vulnerable.
All during this time you will go through the withdrawal from that emotional rollercoaster. The reason they are so hard to leave is because they alternate Love and Hate to create wild swings in our emotions. My spath even told me, “I like to make them so happy and bring them up high, so they have further to fall”. It was a tell because he pretended to be talking about someone he was pretending to hate.
Realize that everything they say is a lie. That’s the best place to start.
Wow, has anyone (henry, oxy) read back over these posts from 2008? Have we come a long way or what???? I haven’t even seen the skillet in years!
Oxy, what ever happened to the work program you were talking about for women in crisis? And maybe having a massage therapist around? That was such a great idea!
No Star I was afraid to look back on this thread, I am sure I would cringe with embarrassment – I am serious I have not looked…but i do miss indigo blue
NO Star I have not looked back into this thread, I am sure I would cringe with embarrasment. My goodness I have been yapping for three year’s? i am serious I have not looked – but I do miss Indigoblue – he had such a great sense of humor and dry wit and his post were short – accurate and to the point…my kind of man….
Hey NOLa2bCop
If you’re still here, I wrote a helpful, I hope, post on “How to eat a cow” blog.
trimama,
Yes, these people do the unthinkable, being very unscrupulous in how they maneuver in life, not caring one whit about (being oblivious to) all the chaos that they create in their own lives and in our lives. The best thing that could happen to you is for him to get out of your life and stay out of it for good.
Thank you so much for taking the time to offer support!
I read your thoughts, and sobbed. No one else has understood the devastation and the attachment that has come from being in a relationship with a psychopath.
Many people want to chalk this man’s behavior up to substance abuse, but it is fare more than that.
I sent away for The Betrayal Connection and The Gift of Betrayal. I have ordered copies for my therapist as well. She is well-meaning and skilled, but very clearly does not understand this dilemma. Thankfully, she is willing to learn and to help me work through this.
It is funny to me what I cling to as the “last straw” with him…the stepping off point. He has done so many hurtful things, but I focus now his taking up with a young woman and changing his phone number! What the heck?! I should be running from this man. In fact, the two people he was in relationship with before me, who did not know each other each said the same thing….RUN!
So I take heed of what I hear from you all in terms of no contact. I need to listen to you. I need to save myself.
Thank you!
trimama,
The longer you stay no contact, the easier it becomes for you, keeping him out of your sphere of existence. This guy is a bad dude (for any woman, not just you). There are so many articles on this website that are helpful, giving you insight into how a sociopath operates in life. The man’s thinking is twisted, off kilter. Take care of yourself, be good to yourself – this helps in the healing process. Peace.
Dear Star,
Yep, I am amazed at how far we have come! “We’ve come a long way, baby.” You’re right I haven’t used the skillet very much on us lately either—well except for Henry and I lovvvve boinking him on the head just for FUN!!! LOL 🙂
I posted this in October 2008:
I keep saying this over and over, but will do it again, “THIS IS THE BEST ARTICLE ON LOVE FRAUD”
In a series of insightful articles I think this is one of the GREATEST if not THE greatest article here. WOW!!! Is all I can say.
“Wisdom is a practice as well as a state of mind.”
I still believe it is one of the best articles here on LF…and I’d been around for well over a year at the time this one was written.
Thank you all!
Hearing experienced and healing people describe him as toxic and bad and all helps me.
He is all those things and more.
I am learning the truth. And I also hired a private investigator to learn some more. So that I can more fully understand the lies.
Each piece of truth is setting me more free.
The remainder of getting free is no contact, no contact, no contact.
I keep saying that to myself and thank you for advising me to do that.
Yes, he is dangerous to all women. He has harmed women before and will continue to do so.
I am thankful for the strength to get away, and for the support found here to stay away.