Last Friday Robin Hoffman interviewed me again on her radio show, The Feminine Soul. We discussed recovering from a relationship with a sociopath. She asked two very important questions, “How do we avoid picking another sociopath in the future?” and “How can we ever trust our instincts again?”
Coincidentally, yesterday I received this letter from a reader:
I got involved recently with a man who seemed to be the opposite of my previous psychopath. All the traits I like, strong, dominant, etc but seemed to have a good heart, and importantly a good history. I checked him out, he had a long service in the police force and a voluntary youth organization, was widely respected and successful.
Recognizing my vulnerability, I kept my eyes and ears open, and my heart guarded.
After 3 weeks I started to spot inconsistencies, tested a bit, and noticed the feeling of cognitive dissonance and didn’t ignore it.
After 6 weeks I ended the relationship, even though part of me was screaming inside “no, don’t do it”. Only afterwards did I discover that not only was he cheating on a wife who had cancer, but he was also cheating on a long term girlfriend, who genuinely loved him and is devastated. He was playing with fire by putting us both on the same webpage and we got chatting without having any idea of the relationships involved and it all came out. I’ve given her a link to saferelationships.com and can only hope she learns from the experience.
I SO proud of myself. I got out before getting involved, so it didn’t hurt. The experience was positive in that I made a different choice, for me. My stop light is starting to work and I’m learning I can trust my instincts again.
There are three parts of ourselves that are “taken” by the sociopath. The first part is the conscious mind. The sociopath fools the conscious mind by lies. It can be very difficult to detect these lies because skilled sociopaths use willing and unknowing accomplices to back up their lies. (This is why it is important for family members to distance themselves from the sociopath and his/her relationships.)
Sociopaths know to pick on trusting people. In general trusting people are loyal and trustworthy. These are good qualities so when your conscious mind is taken, you can be left with a lot of self-doubts. The strategy of carefully checking out people’s claims is a good one but it often takes time to uncover a sociopath’s lies.
Our unconscious minds also get “taken” in the sociopath’s con. Sociopaths are dominant and seductive. These traits may be arousing and attractive. I think that this may be in born. We may be attracted to these traits instinctively just like certain body parts are arousing for some.
Even though the attraction to the dominance and seductiveness of sociopaths may be instinctual, I don’t think we are stuck with it. I was able to train myself to be different and I want to share with you how I did it.
I am somewhat ashamed to say it took me too long to understand that I was drawn to sociopaths because of their dominance behavior. Once I understood this, I set out to find a way to feel differently about them. I wanted to like them less. I had always observed that there were some mental health professionals who were instinctively repulsed by sociopaths and I wanted to know what was different about them.
In studying the literature on dominance behavior and personality I discovered that dominance and empathy are opposed to each other. When dominance motives are in play empathy is turned off. The hormones of dominance also turn off empathy. The opposite is also true empathy and affection also suppress dominance motives.
Armed with this knowledge I set out to study men I knew who had long track records of loving empathetic behavior. I spent hours talking with them about their views of love, life and life’s purpose. I did this until the lesson had sunk in emotionally not just intellectually. A fully human person, male or female is loving and devoted. He or she is able to control dominance motives and express them only when appropriate.
Since this emotional lesson sunk in, I have found myself actually repulsed by dominant people. I no longer admire them or find them entertaining. Instead, I emotionally experience them as they are, shallow and lacking in important qualities.
Sociopaths also “take us” on another level. They manipulate us into forming bonds with them. These bonds are unconscious and chemical- whether the sociopath is a family member or lover. Breaking a bond with a sociopath is very painful. We do not have to be enslaved by our human bonds, we can acknowledge them and realize that at times these bonds have to be broken even though doing so is painful and difficult.
To sum it up then your new wiser mindset may have many aspects to it. Wisdom is a practice as well as a state of mind.
Oh, OxD, I so wish I could rent my place out. The rent on it wouldn’t come close to covering the mortgage. And with 624 sq feet and one bedroom, a roommate is out of the question. Really, I’m more of a slave to my good credit than anything else. I’ve been considering walking for several years. I can’t bring myself to stop making the mortgage payments. I know credit isn’t everything, but it means a lot to me. It is all I have to show for the hard work I’ve done throughout my life. I have no money, but I have this home and my good credit. I still feel grateful to have it and to have the life I have, when others are homeless or at the mercy of unpredictable rents, or have no steady jobs. Thanks for letting me vent about this. I know I will have answers one of these days.
Your plans for your life and your land sound so much like they are meant to be. I too once had a dream about a healing center when I was younger. This never materialized, but maybe some day will.
Do you really think that the time period for healing is the same for a 3 month relationship as it is for a longer one? I keep thinking I should be past this by now.
“how long?” It depends. On other stresses, changes, depression, etc etc and how invested you were in the 3 month relationship. I know that in 3 months after I started with the P I was HEAD OVER HEELS. and if you add in the prior stresses of my husband’s death, my dad’s death, and on and one, then I will be 120 before I can be “safe” LOL
It also depends on what “dysfunctions” you brought to the relationship. Do you have good bounaries, etc?
So how “long” is relative to each situation. A situation can be horrible but if th person is strong they may get over it sooner or a “paper cut” may make someone hit the abyss, it “just depends.”
I would think you would be a better judge of that than I could possibly be because you “know” yourself.
BTW, thanks for BOINKING LetGo.
Dear Letgo, I’m glad that Stargazer borrowed the skillet while I was typing my “novel” LOL You really deserved that BOINK, and you should be glad that it was her, I would have given you a DOBULE BOINK! (((hugs)))
We all go through those doubting periods, so that is normal, but you were not responsible for his behavior, and he had NO RIGHT to treat you like he did. It wasn’t your fault. (((hugs)))
Hey ! Sorry It took me so long to get here ! Now that I’m Here I don’t see my peoples ! Are You here ? Are you affraid ? I’m A Gay Man , for six years , seems more like sixty , I have been Brainwashed by our enemy PSY/SOC ! THANK YOU KIKI ANISTON ! For slamming my head against the Obvious! I like It!
I also entertain the idea of chemical addiction to these PSY/SOC ! Now If you breeders think your special , think again ? Lets say 4 % male 1 % female . Now factor in the # that did’nt ever have/enter the legal system , do you follow ? So I think the Stats. are scewd ! Now , Imagine In the Homo sexual community my Peoples! We are and I have been the victim too ! So I say to my friends do not fear the darkness! But let your Light so shine before men that they may see your GOOD work and Glorify your Father who is in Heaven! Jere with all love and Hugs
Hi Indigoblue: All your people are here of all types with the same common denominator of being burned by anti-social personalities.
Glad to see you finally found your way to this blog.
Peace.
Oxy that’s why they are called “People of the LIE” … it’s the lies that spin us around and around for year after year after year (we focused on truth, they focused on deceptions) … all due to selfishness, self centered, self absorbed, me, myself and I and who cares what happens to those that happen to be in their spaces at the time they weave their web of lies and deception.
Good read by the way “PEOPLE of the LIE”.
Peace.
* Good To Be Here *
Thinking for once! simple really? so simple you have failed to see the forest for the trees !
LIFE , evolution , survival , mankind !
instinct , heredity , Nich , Warrior , the Battle of Good vs. evil
Analogy; Ants , Bees , Insects
Survival of the Individual vs. The Species
Bees work/live for one purpose survival of the species . The Queen controls all ? Except the Parisitic-Mimic
! The Parasitic-Mimic fools the real bees chemicaly into detecting only sisters ! The Parasitic only has to perfect It’s Mimicrey ! But it is doing this to survive !
Evolution of the mind , a branch , A parasite that looks like us but feeds entirly on us only for it’s own Survival !
Scary ! Is this what we have become ? Not If we know of and how to detect the Parasite!
Thank GOD
Love and hugs and I can’t express with these letters and words what I feel ! Thank you LORD that I am the real bee 🙂 Jere
Indigo-
I’m not an expert by any means, but I’m of the mindset that there are every bit as many S women as men. They just get by easier because:
1. Men don’t talk about being burned by women like women talk about being burned by men.
2. Women have a history of depending on men, so their parasitic lifestyle can be disguised.
3. Men tend to like dominant women and S women tend to control more through sex than physical aggression, although they are not beyond that final resort.
I don’t know. That’s just my experience. I just don’t think this syndrome affects just the Y chromosome.
I’m not trying to be argumentative or anything though.
*Wow* !
People of the lie !
Then read Peck ! LOVE GOOD / evil
You probably think I read it before My last entry? Not
Love jere
I follow 🙂 through my reasurch I have not or dont dilute but believe the power of deception by either sex or Oreintation!
* We aggreeee!*
the Stats are scary! even if they where accurate
Peace
kerisee04 and Inigoblue: I don’t know what the statistics are for anti-social personalities out there. All I know is:
It’s easier to be a jerk in society today, smiling to everyone’s face, lying through your teeth to get what you want, when you want it (not hard work … just putting your time in for a few months/years) … then off down the road to your next victim to do the same thing over again, SMILE, SMILE, WINK, WINK.
It takes guts and backbone to speak and live the truth, say what you mean and mean what you say and of course, do for yourself.
The Internet makes it easy to meet and greet people and have them (the next victim) lined up waiting for them when they arrive at that destination.
By the time anyone figures them out … it’s too late, the damage is done … it takes years to get through the confusion they purposely leave in their wake … then they don’t care, the odds of anyone taking them to civil court is slim. Then so what, even if you win, it’s up to you (the victim) to collect from them … the courts just order them to pay … but it’s up to the victim to get payment out of a stone.
When and if this type of robbery. And yes, make no mistakes you were robbed … and raped, gets into CRIMINAL court where it belongs … will they stop doing their highway robbery to unsuspecting civilians and go back to robbing banks.
Peace.