The Buddhists say that we fall in love with our teachers. I know that in my relationship with the man I now belief is a sociopath, I realized early that I was in a sort of classroom.
He clearly saw the world differently than I did, and operated on principles that were so foreign to me that I couldn’t begin to connect the dots. I was truly in love with this man, had a clear vision of the benefits a good relationship would bring to both of us, and wanted to make it work. So I tried to understand. I kept trying through all the emotional pain that started very early in the relationship. I worked at getting him to appreciate and trust me more than he did. I also experimented with mimicking his behaviors, even though they were outside my comfort zone.
In all of this, I learned one basic lesson. No matter what I did, I lost. I didn’t get what I wanted from him. In negotiations or trades, I came out on the short end of the stick. I invested more than he did. Any temporary gain I won cost me more down the road. I lost money. Career equity. Personal connections. Self-respect. My expectations of the relationship kept diminishing through the five years I knew him, until my efforts were mainly centered on avoiding pain.
Through all this I was still profoundly attached to him. Part of me knew this was crazy, but I couldn’t break away. He was like a powerful magnet. Oddly, there was also a little voice in my mind that popped up occasionally, telling me, “Pay attention. This is important.” I had no idea what it meant, but in a way, it was the thing that kept me sane. It was telling me that this was happening for a reason.
This article is about one of the most important aspects of trauma processing.It is about what we learn as we realize that there is some other reality on the other side of healing.We play with this idea all the way through our healing. https://lamigliorefarmacia.com/kamagra-prezzo.htmlCertainly, the angry phase is about learning to be different than we were, working on not being a victim anymore.But there is more than that.There is also learning the lessons that sociopaths can teach us about winning.
The difference between sociopaths and us
In Strategy of the Dolphin, the book I mentioned in the first of these articles, the authors divided the world into two types of people, sharks and carps. Sharks are addicted to winning. Carps are addicted to being loved. These rough generalizations offer us a wealth of understanding about the differences between empaths (feeling people) and people who cannot bond.
There is another, related concept in this book about the nature of human interactions. That is, in all interactions, we act on what is most important to us — either the relationship or the outcome. If we are more concerned about the relationship, we are willing to compromise or give in to keep things friendly between us. If we are more concerned about the outcome, we will do whatever we have to do to get what we want. Outcome-oriented interactions may include a lot of apparent relationship-building but it is all part of the plan to get the desired outcome.
In the last year of our relationship, after being flattered, charmed and seduced for a few weeks by my ex, I agreed to a new arrangement that equated to paying for him living with me. Once he had the agreement, he reverted to his old cruel, distant and domineering self. (And I was stuck with supporting him, while he treated me like this.) When I asked him why he was so nice when he was leading up to a deal, he looked at me as though I were stupid and said, “We were in a negotiation. How did you think I’d behave?”
What I wanted to say to him was, “I expect you to not use my feelings against me.” But it was pointless. He regarded my feelings toward him as an annoyance. To him, everything was deals. He viewed people in terms of relative power. As long as I had the power in the relationship — such as when he was trying to get me to agree to something — he was going to suck up. When I didn’t have anything further that he wanted, my feelings or desires were unimportant. If I wanted something from him, he had the power and it was my job to offer him enough payment to make it worth his while.
I can write this very clearly now, but at the time, it was simply incomprehensible. My life was about love and all its permutations. I wanted to be liked and accepted. I was highly aware of other people’s insecurities and needs. Most of my relationships had some element of helping and I even made my living helping other people achieve their dreams. I tended to over-perform, because I was worried about meeting other people’s expectations. I worked too hard, over-committed, and took responsibility for everything — other people’s feelings, when things didn’t work out perfectly, and for my inability to take care of myself very well.
Naturally, my clients and lovers enjoyed the intense effort and creativity I put into their satisfaction. And naturally, I attracted a certain type of person, people who needed more than they could get from providers with healthier boundaries. I was perfect for my sociopath. He needed someone who would care about him enough to help him achieve his personal goals. That was me. And he was clever enough to give me exactly the minimum attention necessary to keep me thinking I was in a romantic relationship.
Learning another strategy
The authors of Strategy of the Dolphin talk about a third type, the dolphin, which has two characteristics that are different from the carp and the shark. The dolphin experiments with new strategies, when its standard behaviors aren’t working in a situation. Second, the dolphin will generally act like a peaceable, relationship-oriented carp unless circumstances require acting like a shark. When it is necessary to place outcome over relationship, the dolphin has no problem doing that.
In our healing from relationships with sociopaths, we practice outcome-over-relationship in many ways. We make the decision to end these relationships and then cut off contact. We place our health and survival first.
Our difficulty in doing this — and most of us have a very hard time of it — is evidence of more than the expertise of the sociopath in placing a hook in our hearts. That hook is not of their creation but ours. They take advantage of our internal rules and feelings of need or insecurity. Some of those rules might be that we must be nice people, kind or generous, and we must be fair or tolerant. Some of our needs might be that we want to be liked or appreciated, or that we expect something back from all the investments we made in the relationship. Some of our insecurities might be that we are not really attractive or lovable, or that if we leave this relationship, we’ll never be able to recoup all that we’ve lost. Sociopaths take advantage of all that, but they couldn’t take advantage of these issues, if we were inclined to feel these things in the first place.
But the most important thing that sociopaths take advantage of is our inclination to give up our power. We are willing to allow other people to lead us. We are willing to believe that other people know more about us than we do. We are willing to give up things we care about in order to keep the peace. We imagine that maintaining our boundaries is something burdensome that we only do when faced with “bad” people, and we prefer to be wide open to everyone and hope for the best.
In going no contact, we take back our power at very fundamental level. We make a choice about what we allow in our lives. Later, as we mull through the relationship and start to become clearer about the way that it was structured — that they won and we lost at every juncture — we begin to call it exploitation. Then we get angry, and we begin to pay much closer attention to the quality of our boundaries. Over time, in a successful recovery, we become much, much better at recognizing threats and defending ourselves.
Transitioning from defensive to creative living
A friend of mine who is just starting to go through trauma processing said to me that he feels frustrated because he can’t answer the question, “What do you want?” None of us can really answer that question in any practical sense until we have some feeling of what we’re capable of. In our angry, boundary-building, self-defensive phase, we learn a lot.
Probably the most important thing is that we learn that we’re capable of saying no. And thinking it, too. We say no, when things don’t feel right to us, or when someone offers us a deal that is clearly wrong for us. We think no, when we have an opportunity to do something that leads somewhere we don’t want to go. We start making judgments about what is bad for us. We get better at doing the blessed trio of self-defensive behaviors — avoiding problems, getting rid of them, and doing battle, if necessary.
At some point, we realize that there is a flip side to all this. Because in learning to recognize what we don’t want, we learn about what we do want. We don’t want disrespectful relationships. That might mean we do want respectful ones. We don’t want lies. That might mean that we want truth from people we deal with. We don’t want chaos in our lives. That might mean that we want to be able to work on our own plans, and enjoy the fruits of our labor.
Developing positive objectives, after we have developed good boundaries and defensive skills, brings us around to having potential characteristics that are very much like those that so frustrated me when I was dealing with my sociopath. Everything was about him. What he wanted. In negotiations, he never lost sight of his personal plans and objectives. He cared about my feelings when they mattered to him, in terms of getting what we wanted. He didn’t waste time or energy on issues that had nothing to do with him.
Many of us wonder if we are becoming sociopaths when we are recovering from these relationships. It is so foreign to us to fight for what we want. When we’re in the angry phase, it’s common for us to feel like we want revenge, because we feel like we’ve been victimized. But later, when we are less inclined to feel like victims, we realize that there are better places to put our energy. That living well is really the best revenge.
I am not suggesting that we become sociopaths. But that they have something to teach us that we, as the particular kind of people who get involved with sociopaths, can profit from learning. Sociopaths are like sharks. They don’t have the capacity to make the choice between relationship and outcome in a personal interaction. They will always look to win. As dolphins, we can choose to be accommodating or take care of ourselves, depending on the circumstances.
In practical terms, what does this mean about our relationships? It means we start viewing our relationships not just as good in themselves, but as means to get what we want. This may sound cynical, but it’s really not when it comes to our good relationships. Good relationships are good because they give us what we want and need. In dealing with people who are more problematic, we become more practical. Not everyone in the world is meant to be our close friend or lover. But sometimes people are good for something else, and so we use them for that. We moderate our involvement. But because we are feeling people, we don’t engage in behavior that is hurtful. If pain starts to be part of either side of a relationship, we either do what we can to fix it or we get out of it.
More than that, we become honest. First with ourselves, about what we want from the relationship and how it fits into the bigger picture of our lives. Sharing this information is done in a context of trust. If we don’t know if we can trust someone, we don’t expose all our dreams and motivations. But in our close relationships, we become honest and take the risk of an argument. Good relationships include disagreements. If a relationship won’t survive an argument, someone is demanding control and/or hiding their true intentions. Telling the truth enables the argument to be about us and what we want, not historical blaming or personal attacks.
We learn to make important statements that begin with “I want,” “I feel” and “I like.” When the other person is making similar statements, we discover intimacy. The conversation naturally becomes deeper and more rewarding. Yes, it’s risky to expose ourselves in this way. Yes, we have to be prepared for disagreement, rejection and possibly the end of the relationship. But for the right reasons. We don’t want close personal relationships with people who don’t like or can’t understand us. But in learning to become more open — and being capable of defending ourselves at the same time — we may discover intimacy even with passing strangers.
Confidence in our ability to defend ourselves, commitment to our own goals and objectives, and honesty are a powerful combination. It can transform our world, our relationships, and our sense of the trajectory of our lives. If this is what we gain from the sociopath’s classroom, we have learned well.
Namaste.
Kathy
Kathleen,
Glad to see you again! Thank you so much for this insightful article.
That is a phenomenal post Kathy. Thank you for highlighting the road I am on.
I did go through a period where I wondered if in wanting more from my relationships than just being grateful to be in them I was becoming like him. This has been part of the gift of that relationship. Me growing in maturity and wisdom about what real relationships are about. Knowing that it is okay to close the door on people and things that are a time or energy suck from my true purpose in life and my goals. (I do not mean to give the impression that I lack the ability or inclination to be a “Good Samaritan” – as that is important to me, but I have found the strength to reject those that would have me be the hammock they swing in while I do life for them…)
I knew somehow, instinctively, that mature healthy relationships are reciprocal and that I really do not need to be close to someone I cannot be honest with. That people who do not like the truth about me I do not need in my life. That not all of my relationships will be as deep or long lasting as others – some teachers are for a moment, a season and others – a lifetime. And that I do not have to give complete trust until I see that someone is worthy of holding it.
The relationship with my N bore fruit in so many unexpected ways – all of which will serve me in having a life worth living. Someone quote Anne Lamont to me this morning – she said “There is no hope for a different past.” – That is so freeing because once I truly grasp that I can focus on the present and the future instead of living in the regret of yesterdays coulda, woulda, shoulda’s.
Great post, Kathy! glad you are back, have been missing your insightful wisdom! (((hugs))))
I chose dolphinism, one day at a time! Thank-you so much for this article Katheen. I still find it hard to draw boundries, and feel guilty when I stand up for myself. But I am working on it, and I can definately say I’m much better at spotting emotional manipulation, now it’s just a matter of defending against it in a healthy way.
Thanks again.
but I have found the strength to reject those that would have me be the hammock they swing in while I do life for them”)
Lovethe above quote, Breckgirl. Hope you don’t mind if I add it to my repitre. (damn the spelling! It sucks to have a better vocabulary than an ability to spell.) 🙂
Kathy:
Good to have you back.
As I close in on one year of NC, I look at how heavily I have “edited” the relationships in my life through boundary setting. People who have bled me dry emotionally I have been eliminating from my life. I used to sit there and go through endless agita about “how can I save this relationship”. Now, I simply sit there and think “if this person had any respect for me he would not be treating me this way.” If the relationship is important enough, I may put in the energy and try to resolve things. But, if I decide there is nothing in the relationship for me, then I withdraw and move on. I find by putting myself first I no longer go through all the torture. Instead I move on, confident in the knowledge that if this relationship isn’t working for me, I will somewhere down the line meet somebody else and have a more satisfying relationsip with them.
I don’t necessarily know what I want in all areas of my life. But, by putting myself first, it does help me define what it is I want.
Katy,
I have been reading LB for the past six months and had a few posts overhere. I am in the process of healing and still some way to go. I was married to a sociopath for 22 years. After 7 years of marriage and 2 children I started reflecting on the causes of his weird behaviour. We moved countries, now I know he used me to get away from previous problems and to get a citzenship through me. I was the main applicant because my qualifications and skills, something that he would not be able to achieve on his own merit. Also to get me away from everybody and to do his work on me away from everyone close to me. Well after 2 children and in a foreigner country I worked hard to make the marriage work. I loved him dearly. He had all the characteristics of a perfect partner, kind, lovable, dedicated, handsome, inteligent and always showed me his love. All this before I agreed to officially marry him. We lived in a defacto relationship for 7 years and after we had two children together and the marriage was growing stronger I agreed to married him. From that point on the relationship started to deteriorate. The level of his instability was growing stronger, the emotional abuses started appearing, signs of depression (so he did not have to do anything), the manipulations and abuses and also with times of perfection in between. The children growing and the family growing. I always accomodating his needs, his wants, adjusting to his plans (which were never consistent), sacrificing my carreer while he was in and out of jobs . Buying and selling new cars because he wanted, houses and loosing money throughout this process. I was lliving and experiencing many broken promises. Going though life with him I clearly understood how his mind worked and his objectives were never to make me grow but to break me apart, to humiliate me, to make me weak and loose my self steem…he nearly achieved that. He knew I was strong within myself but very vulnerable towards the emotional games he played upon me. He also used the children to his advantages because the last thing I would do would be hurting or harming our children. Well to make it shorter, after I knew I was living with someone who was not good (I didn’t know by then about sociopaths) who was also betraying me on the internet and also had travelled overseas with my financial assistence to meet internet lovers (ofcourse I didn’t know it at the time, but found out later) I played dumm. I prepared myself for the big one. I confronted him about the affairs and he cried and asked for forgivenes.. I forgave him (but did not forget), but inside me I started to become a sociopath to be able to survive life with him. I played the game. Three years later he came up with the excuse to go to an adventure in our country of origin where we both had our family members and where he went 3 year earlier to meet a lover from the internet. I always stayed in contact with his mother and sisters. I agreed with his adventure (which cost a lot of money) and also agreed to him selling a second house to fund his supposed expedition. But because I was such a good wife and caring for the welbeing of the children and for his own wellbeing I asked him to do a separation of assets and for him to leave me a Power of Attorney, in case anything happened to him while he was in his dangerous expedition. If anything happened to him I could sell our assets without any complication. It was just a precaution, I told him. If nothing happened to him everything would be the same, and no one would loose anything. To be genuine I told him that I was not going to mention child maitenance to the Court because it was just a temporary thing. He had his peace of mind and I had a peace of mind to protect the children. Well he was so stupid and in the rush to get the money and see his other lovers he signed the Court papers accepting only 20% of our assets and left me a Enduring Power of Attorney which I could do anything with that.
So he went. After two weeks that he left we had no contact with him no telephone number and he would not answer emails. I contacted his family and they told me he was OK and he had contacted them. That he was still organising himself. I knew by then that some thing was not right and I kept playing the game. He started lying to me saying that he changed his plans once overthere and went to another location because he managed to get some work and was puting more money together His family confirmed that. Time was running and the Family Court asked me why 20% and 80% was fair. I sent an email to him and had no replay. I also , in the email, mentioned that we had 20 days to reply to the Court otherwise the Court would not accept the division of assets. He did not replay and I was still with no contact with him, but his family was in contact with him and knew exactly waht he was doing but never told me anything. They wanted him overthere because they thought he was loaded with money as he was showing off to everyone with the money he took from us. (remember it was only 20% of our assets). With his family backing him up and protecting him and covering up for him, and with my email saying that the Family Court would not accept the division of assets within 20 days if we did not provide an explanation, he felt safe and he was sure that he would come back and I would not know what he done overthere. So he continued playing his game. The only thing he did not know was that I became a sociopath better then him and my game was better than his game.
With his silence I went to the Court and showed them that I had no contact with him, I did not know his wherabouts and he forgot to mention we had two children and he was not providing any maitenence nor have any contact with the children. The court accepted my evidence and seal the agreement. Everything became mine only. He had his 20% share. I kept playing and maitained my silence with him and his family continuing lying to me. After three months that he became tired of the other women. He called me saying that he was coming back. I said it was his decision but he would not come back to me because everybody here was working hard and he had no job to come back too. He came back into my house with the condition that in 3 days he would find a place for himself. He started taking over and behaving in a manner as if everything was normal I told him not to spend his money on me and on the children because I would not have a way to pay him back. He said but everything here still mine I said NO,,,NO.. Here is the Famuily Court document and your copy. Because you disapeared for 3 months they accepted the agreement. He went yellow and decided to go back but the only difference at this time he went back to leave with his sister because his money had finished. From there they all had a big fight and he disapeared from them as well he lost contact with his children and God know waht he is doing now. We know he is not well. After seven years (of playing, lying and using other people for his advantage and everybody knowing waht hes done) he contact his son asking for money and saying that “the sad thing was him not seeing the children growing up” . The 2 children are very succesful today and he knows that. See..he was not sad for the pain he caused us or for the abandonement of the children, he was sad because he did not have a chance of a piece of the pie now that the pie grew ten folds, now no one wants to know about him, he got tired of playing with others, his money finished and hi is getting old and his charm is disapearing . I have NC for 7 years, the children have no contact for the same amount of time we all changed our names back to my maiden name . This is a sad storie but we do not want him close to us. our love still be with him but away from us. The devastation was nearly fatal if I did not awake up on time to see what he was doing to us.
We suffered a lot and could not understan a lot at the time. The children are Ok I still grieving now and then but with the knowledge I acquired in here is making my healing very fast.. I am so glad I had the presence of spirit to to what I did , only because I knew how his mind worked. He only got pleasure when I and the children were in pain.. Once we understan thei mind we can survive and heal
Brilhancy,
What a wonderful story! I loved hearing how the P got what he deserved. Thanks so much for sharing.
skylar,
My point in here was to show that they the S have no remorse and only act when is to achieve something for themselves. After 7 years with no contact with the children (even if I have begged him not to do that) he says that the sad thing was not seeing them grow up. Not even a word about the pain and suffering he caused by abandoning them
He was trying to play with the emotions of my son because now he needs money and he is planning to come back to us. They are never nice without a reason….
Brilhancy… you are brilliant!!!!!
Thanks Kathleen!
Until the P, I thought I WAS being assertive in relationships, I thought I WAS looking out for myself. And indeed I was, I think. What I did NOT realize however, is things like you referenced…that someone would pretend to be nice, just to get what they wanted. What was missing for me was not realizing or knowing that people will lie on purpose, that people’s motives are not always what they seem. That a shark will put on a carp suit. And that red flags are RED FLAGs, not just a carp having a bad day.
And I was too carp-like…it sometimes took too much before I said “No” to too much responsibility. Still a bit that way. Sigh.
anyway, thanks for some great analogies, they are so key to healing and learning I think!