The Buddhists say that we fall in love with our teachers. I know that in my relationship with the man I now belief is a sociopath, I realized early that I was in a sort of classroom.
He clearly saw the world differently than I did, and operated on principles that were so foreign to me that I couldn’t begin to connect the dots. I was truly in love with this man, had a clear vision of the benefits a good relationship would bring to both of us, and wanted to make it work. So I tried to understand. I kept trying through all the emotional pain that started very early in the relationship. I worked at getting him to appreciate and trust me more than he did. I also experimented with mimicking his behaviors, even though they were outside my comfort zone.
In all of this, I learned one basic lesson. No matter what I did, I lost. I didn’t get what I wanted from him. In negotiations or trades, I came out on the short end of the stick. I invested more than he did. Any temporary gain I won cost me more down the road. I lost money. Career equity. Personal connections. Self-respect. My expectations of the relationship kept diminishing through the five years I knew him, until my efforts were mainly centered on avoiding pain.
Through all this I was still profoundly attached to him. Part of me knew this was crazy, but I couldn’t break away. He was like a powerful magnet. Oddly, there was also a little voice in my mind that popped up occasionally, telling me, “Pay attention. This is important.” I had no idea what it meant, but in a way, it was the thing that kept me sane. It was telling me that this was happening for a reason.
This article is about one of the most important aspects of trauma processing.It is about what we learn as we realize that there is some other reality on the other side of healing.We play with this idea all the way through our healing. https://lamigliorefarmacia.com/kamagra-prezzo.htmlCertainly, the angry phase is about learning to be different than we were, working on not being a victim anymore.But there is more than that.There is also learning the lessons that sociopaths can teach us about winning.
The difference between sociopaths and us
In Strategy of the Dolphin, the book I mentioned in the first of these articles, the authors divided the world into two types of people, sharks and carps. Sharks are addicted to winning. Carps are addicted to being loved. These rough generalizations offer us a wealth of understanding about the differences between empaths (feeling people) and people who cannot bond.
There is another, related concept in this book about the nature of human interactions. That is, in all interactions, we act on what is most important to us — either the relationship or the outcome. If we are more concerned about the relationship, we are willing to compromise or give in to keep things friendly between us. If we are more concerned about the outcome, we will do whatever we have to do to get what we want. Outcome-oriented interactions may include a lot of apparent relationship-building but it is all part of the plan to get the desired outcome.
In the last year of our relationship, after being flattered, charmed and seduced for a few weeks by my ex, I agreed to a new arrangement that equated to paying for him living with me. Once he had the agreement, he reverted to his old cruel, distant and domineering self. (And I was stuck with supporting him, while he treated me like this.) When I asked him why he was so nice when he was leading up to a deal, he looked at me as though I were stupid and said, “We were in a negotiation. How did you think I’d behave?”
What I wanted to say to him was, “I expect you to not use my feelings against me.” But it was pointless. He regarded my feelings toward him as an annoyance. To him, everything was deals. He viewed people in terms of relative power. As long as I had the power in the relationship — such as when he was trying to get me to agree to something — he was going to suck up. When I didn’t have anything further that he wanted, my feelings or desires were unimportant. If I wanted something from him, he had the power and it was my job to offer him enough payment to make it worth his while.
I can write this very clearly now, but at the time, it was simply incomprehensible. My life was about love and all its permutations. I wanted to be liked and accepted. I was highly aware of other people’s insecurities and needs. Most of my relationships had some element of helping and I even made my living helping other people achieve their dreams. I tended to over-perform, because I was worried about meeting other people’s expectations. I worked too hard, over-committed, and took responsibility for everything — other people’s feelings, when things didn’t work out perfectly, and for my inability to take care of myself very well.
Naturally, my clients and lovers enjoyed the intense effort and creativity I put into their satisfaction. And naturally, I attracted a certain type of person, people who needed more than they could get from providers with healthier boundaries. I was perfect for my sociopath. He needed someone who would care about him enough to help him achieve his personal goals. That was me. And he was clever enough to give me exactly the minimum attention necessary to keep me thinking I was in a romantic relationship.
Learning another strategy
The authors of Strategy of the Dolphin talk about a third type, the dolphin, which has two characteristics that are different from the carp and the shark. The dolphin experiments with new strategies, when its standard behaviors aren’t working in a situation. Second, the dolphin will generally act like a peaceable, relationship-oriented carp unless circumstances require acting like a shark. When it is necessary to place outcome over relationship, the dolphin has no problem doing that.
In our healing from relationships with sociopaths, we practice outcome-over-relationship in many ways. We make the decision to end these relationships and then cut off contact. We place our health and survival first.
Our difficulty in doing this — and most of us have a very hard time of it — is evidence of more than the expertise of the sociopath in placing a hook in our hearts. That hook is not of their creation but ours. They take advantage of our internal rules and feelings of need or insecurity. Some of those rules might be that we must be nice people, kind or generous, and we must be fair or tolerant. Some of our needs might be that we want to be liked or appreciated, or that we expect something back from all the investments we made in the relationship. Some of our insecurities might be that we are not really attractive or lovable, or that if we leave this relationship, we’ll never be able to recoup all that we’ve lost. Sociopaths take advantage of all that, but they couldn’t take advantage of these issues, if we were inclined to feel these things in the first place.
But the most important thing that sociopaths take advantage of is our inclination to give up our power. We are willing to allow other people to lead us. We are willing to believe that other people know more about us than we do. We are willing to give up things we care about in order to keep the peace. We imagine that maintaining our boundaries is something burdensome that we only do when faced with “bad” people, and we prefer to be wide open to everyone and hope for the best.
In going no contact, we take back our power at very fundamental level. We make a choice about what we allow in our lives. Later, as we mull through the relationship and start to become clearer about the way that it was structured — that they won and we lost at every juncture — we begin to call it exploitation. Then we get angry, and we begin to pay much closer attention to the quality of our boundaries. Over time, in a successful recovery, we become much, much better at recognizing threats and defending ourselves.
Transitioning from defensive to creative living
A friend of mine who is just starting to go through trauma processing said to me that he feels frustrated because he can’t answer the question, “What do you want?” None of us can really answer that question in any practical sense until we have some feeling of what we’re capable of. In our angry, boundary-building, self-defensive phase, we learn a lot.
Probably the most important thing is that we learn that we’re capable of saying no. And thinking it, too. We say no, when things don’t feel right to us, or when someone offers us a deal that is clearly wrong for us. We think no, when we have an opportunity to do something that leads somewhere we don’t want to go. We start making judgments about what is bad for us. We get better at doing the blessed trio of self-defensive behaviors — avoiding problems, getting rid of them, and doing battle, if necessary.
At some point, we realize that there is a flip side to all this. Because in learning to recognize what we don’t want, we learn about what we do want. We don’t want disrespectful relationships. That might mean we do want respectful ones. We don’t want lies. That might mean that we want truth from people we deal with. We don’t want chaos in our lives. That might mean that we want to be able to work on our own plans, and enjoy the fruits of our labor.
Developing positive objectives, after we have developed good boundaries and defensive skills, brings us around to having potential characteristics that are very much like those that so frustrated me when I was dealing with my sociopath. Everything was about him. What he wanted. In negotiations, he never lost sight of his personal plans and objectives. He cared about my feelings when they mattered to him, in terms of getting what we wanted. He didn’t waste time or energy on issues that had nothing to do with him.
Many of us wonder if we are becoming sociopaths when we are recovering from these relationships. It is so foreign to us to fight for what we want. When we’re in the angry phase, it’s common for us to feel like we want revenge, because we feel like we’ve been victimized. But later, when we are less inclined to feel like victims, we realize that there are better places to put our energy. That living well is really the best revenge.
I am not suggesting that we become sociopaths. But that they have something to teach us that we, as the particular kind of people who get involved with sociopaths, can profit from learning. Sociopaths are like sharks. They don’t have the capacity to make the choice between relationship and outcome in a personal interaction. They will always look to win. As dolphins, we can choose to be accommodating or take care of ourselves, depending on the circumstances.
In practical terms, what does this mean about our relationships? It means we start viewing our relationships not just as good in themselves, but as means to get what we want. This may sound cynical, but it’s really not when it comes to our good relationships. Good relationships are good because they give us what we want and need. In dealing with people who are more problematic, we become more practical. Not everyone in the world is meant to be our close friend or lover. But sometimes people are good for something else, and so we use them for that. We moderate our involvement. But because we are feeling people, we don’t engage in behavior that is hurtful. If pain starts to be part of either side of a relationship, we either do what we can to fix it or we get out of it.
More than that, we become honest. First with ourselves, about what we want from the relationship and how it fits into the bigger picture of our lives. Sharing this information is done in a context of trust. If we don’t know if we can trust someone, we don’t expose all our dreams and motivations. But in our close relationships, we become honest and take the risk of an argument. Good relationships include disagreements. If a relationship won’t survive an argument, someone is demanding control and/or hiding their true intentions. Telling the truth enables the argument to be about us and what we want, not historical blaming or personal attacks.
We learn to make important statements that begin with “I want,” “I feel” and “I like.” When the other person is making similar statements, we discover intimacy. The conversation naturally becomes deeper and more rewarding. Yes, it’s risky to expose ourselves in this way. Yes, we have to be prepared for disagreement, rejection and possibly the end of the relationship. But for the right reasons. We don’t want close personal relationships with people who don’t like or can’t understand us. But in learning to become more open — and being capable of defending ourselves at the same time — we may discover intimacy even with passing strangers.
Confidence in our ability to defend ourselves, commitment to our own goals and objectives, and honesty are a powerful combination. It can transform our world, our relationships, and our sense of the trajectory of our lives. If this is what we gain from the sociopath’s classroom, we have learned well.
Namaste.
Kathy
Brilhancy, WELL DONE!!! I am full of admiration at how you played him for a sucker at his own game. You rock! Also, you have answered my question as to what will become of my 45 year old daughter,long term, {still has her looks, some work, and someso-called friends, tho they keep getting younger and younger as the older friends suss her out. She has given me 30 years of Hell, her poor ex husband 15 years of hell.she drops “friends” like used lolly wrappers when they dont come across for her, and has dumped me, after I told her Id no longer be her cash cow.} She still thinks she is brilliant, even tho she has lost her husband, her home, her job, her Mum, her car,has no assetts, and around$30,000 in credit card and other debt.She is off the hook regarding her 3 kids, as her ex now has full time custody of them, Im relieved to say.She is a total phoney. I cant see much future for her long term, I used to worry about her, but do so less and les now, as she has done ALL THIS TO HERSELF!! They are not as clever as they think they are!! Love, Gem.XX
Kathleen, wonderful article, thank you so much, need the lessons, need to hear how other’s have changed their lives, hope I reach that peaceful place someday.
I also wanted to say, I can understand Lily trying to hang on to the false malignant hope that somehow, one of her 4 children was REALLY a nice person, just misunderstood.
When I really truly saw, with all my blinkers off, what my 2 daughters were REALLY like, how they were pathological liers, snobby, cruel, hateful, unkind, unforgiving,ruthless, heartless,manipulative,money grabbing,Narcopaths,it was very hard, as Oxy says,”The truth will set you free but first it will piss you off!” Truth is like a dagger, cutting out rotten diseased infected sores. It hurts like hell, but we are never going to get healed from these people until we acknowledge and accept the painful truth about them.And NC is the only way forward, as each contact ripps the scar of the still healing wound, leaving it open again.Its been 3 months now, and each day, I breathe a little easier. Gem.XX
Kathy — Very well done article. Much wisdom and positive reinforcement for those of us who are moving forward and learning new ways to live with boundaries and maintain a sense of integrity.
Brilhancy: Thank you so much for sharing your story. It was inspirational to me, and I’m impressed with how you handled things so well.
Gem, Witsend, Oxy, and TB
I really have to applaud you for being able to look reality in the face and see your children for who they are not what you fantasized them to become when you gave birth. That must be the greatest loss of all and yet all of you determined to live in REALITY, rather than live in a delusional world as my parents have chosen. I have a P-sister and my parents have acknowledged her selfishness but they refuse to see her as beyond hope. That would be fine and admirable IF THEY WERE DOING ANYTHING TO HELP HER BECOME NORMAL. But just as they did with my P-brother, they are allowing the chips to fall where they may and continue to condone their evil behavior. It’s so sad because NO ONE is benefitting. My P-sister is so dependant on my parents for emotional support (even though she’s married to a P and living in a cult of one). I know that they could make a big difference in her behavior if they chose but they won’t. Similarily my P brother is extremely difficult and will rage but they could do so much to force his improved behavior if they wanted to because he lives with them. But instead, they reinforce that behavior by letting it go, thus it was successful behavior to the P’s.
Everything I’m reading points to a disconnect from reality as a sign of narcissism. So your examples as strong determined women should have served as examples to your children, but it got skewed somehow. Instead of them seeing how important it was for them to face the real world and all its problems, they only saw how important it was for YOU to face the world and all its problems so they wouldn’t have to. That is how my P sister is. Once they leave the nest, they latch on to some other supply. Maybe the answer is to LAY ALL YOUR PROBLEMS ON THEM, before they leave the nest. Make it a huge tragic dilemma worthy of a P-performance. (like my xP told me Homeland security was after him complete with fake documents and gps tracker.)
Interesting,
my old p-parents once told me that work ethic skips every other generation. That is what they have noticed. if the parents work hard, like they do, the kids don’t but grow up to have hardworking children.
Perhaps it’s true, the parents who protect the kid from his problems, raise a child who feels entitled to that protection, but might have kids who never knew protection and will work harder to succeed.
geminigirl,
To love someone is to make them responsible for their own action. I still love my ex husband so do our children. We learnt how to love without sharing a life together. We have to stop worring about them or even talking about them with people we know. Love them in our harts but wish them to be distant from us. They do not bring a moment of true happiness to our lives.
They are inteligent beings (malignant though) and they have to cope with the consequencies of their actions. Being cold and indiferent is the best treatment we can give to them. Never retaliate, but be always firm and do not allow them to step in our boundaries. Our limits are far beyond their reach
Yes, we still love them.. we do not need to hate them but love the memories and wish them to be very, very far away from us.
Life will catch up with them…they will get tired one day and they will see everybody else happy and in control of their lives. Then and only then the S will melt down of old age and not being loved by anyone close to them.
Today , my ex would die to talk to his daughter, and to share the fun time with his son, he would die to have my kindness and talk to me, he would die to share one minute of our lives (a life which once was his).
And the worse thing for him, is the fact that he knows that in order for him to achieve that , he will have to do a lot of hard work within himself before he comes even close to us. If he ever comes he knows we will be polite but very acertive with him. He would not stand a chance to play again.
skylar,
I forgot to say that with his Enduring Power of Attorney I tranferred the title of our property in my name only and withdrew all his retirement fund when his completed 55 years old (which was last February) and he can not even complain about it. Nos can his adorable sisters and mother…after all he gave me the Power..in case he accidented himself in his expedition… well his expedition paid off to me..
Brilhancy:
I really admire you and the approach you decided to take. And I think your statement ‘To love someone is to make them responsible for their own action.’ That is the hardest part for me to face, that I have to disengage and love someone from afar. Anyway, I could go on but just wanted to commend you, glad you posted your whole story and wish you well.
whoops, meant to say I think your statement about loving someone – is very powerful and it will continue to stay on my mind in dealing with this.