I had a nice conversation with a friend today. She said that part of healing from a relationship with a sociopath is getting to the point where one realizes that sociopaths deserve pity for being disordered. In that regard, we both hope that science will progress to the point where sociopathy is preventable and fully treatable. In this blog I will discuss treatment options for those diagnosed with antisocial personality disorder. Following the format of the book I am reviewing, this disorder is called sociopathy or ASPD and the personality traits that give rise to the disorder are called “psychopathic personality traits.”
Regarding whether sociopathy and psychopathic personality traits are currently treatable, Sandy Brown and I had a bit of a disagreement when we wrote Women Who Love Psychopaths. Although I told her the literature indicates sociopathic behaviors are to some degree treatable she was very insistent we emphasize that psychopathic personality traits are not treatable. She won out because she convinced me of the need to communicate to women that men with these personality traits usually do not change. In her experience, giving a woman any hope her man could improve, discourages her from leaving the relationship. I offer this book review and discussion of treatment of sociopathy/psychopathy to keep you informed, NOT to encourage you to stay.
I also recognize that spouses may choose to stay married to those with ASPD for any number of legitimate reasons. There are also people who have sons, daughters, parents, uncles, aunts and cousins with ASPD. All want to know if there is any effective treatment for the disorder. People want to know what treatment gives their loved one the best shot at improving.
If you have a close family member who is a sociopath and are involved in that person’s treatment, I strongly recommend you read Antisocial Personality Disorder: A Practitioner’s Guide to Comparative Treatments. Although the book is written for mental health professionals, I believe any person with some background in psychology can understand most of it. What you don’t understand, you can look up and so become better able to communicate with therapists. This book is an absolute must read for all professionals who deal with sociopaths and their families.
To give you an idea of why I give this book 5 stars, I will describe it and discuss the content. The book is edited by two psychologists experienced in the treatment of sociopaths, Drs. Rotgers and Maniacci. In the second chapter, they give detail s of the case of Frank a classic sociopath. Although they do not say so in the book, Dr. Rotgers told me that Frank was an actual person he evaluated.
I was very impressed with the way the authors presented Frank and his history. In particular, the clinicians interviewed Frank’s wife. Her statements about him and their relationship are characteristic of the kinds of things spouses of sociopaths say. Frank’s aunt and brother were also interviewed. The editors agree with me that the best sources of information regarding the nature of sociopaths and sociopathy are the family members of the disordered person.
Frank’s wife Jennifer says the following, “ The most exciting year of my life (was the first year of our relationship). He was so spontaneous and full of energy. His charm and good looks just swept me off my feet. Being with him was just so exhilarating. “ and later, “it suddenly dawned on me that I didn’t know anything about him.”
Having presented the case of Frank, the editors then invited 8 professionals representing 8 different treatment approaches to answer a series of explicit questions about their formulation of the case, understanding of the disorder and approach to treatment. The contributors were as follows:
1. Debra Benveniste, MA., MSW; Putnam, CT-Psychodynamic Approach
2. Michael Maniacci, Psy.D.; Chicago, IL-Adlerian Psychotherapy
3. Darwin Dorr, Ph.D.; Wichita, KS-Million’s Biosocial Learning Perspective: Personologic Psychotherapy
4. Glenn D. Walters, Ph.D.: Schuylkill, PA-Lifestyle Approach to Substance Abuse and Crime
5. Arthur Freeman, Ed.D. & Brian Eig; Fort Wayne, IN and Philadelphia, PA-Cognitive Behavioral Treatment (CBT) Approach
6. Robin A. McCann, Ph.D., Katherin Ann Comtots, Ph.D., & Elissa M.Ball, M.D.; Denver, CO-Dialectical Behavior Therapy
7. Joel I. Ginsberg, Ph.D., C.A. Farbring, M.A., & L. Forsberg, Ph.D.; Stockholm, Sweden-Motivational Interviewing
8. Sharon Morgillo Freeman, Ph.D., MSN, RN-CS, & John M. Rathbun, M.D.; Fort Wayne, IN- Integrating Psychotherapy and Medication
In the last chapters the editors compare and contrast the different treatment approaches. Family members of sociopaths should be aware of two important points. First all but one of the therapeutic approaches (psychodynamic) involves family members in the treatment. Family members are considered by the 7 to be important sources of information. Given the importance of family to the treatment, do not expect therapists to discourage you from being involved in a sociopath’s life. Therapists often encourage family members to stay with the sociopath and support him/her. This may benefit the sociopath at the expense of his/her family.
The chapter on medication discusses medication that can help the poor impulse control and aggression seen in sociopaths. I completely agree with the recommendations made and think that if a person with ASPD is willing medication should be tried.
What about prognosis then, and how long does it take to treat a sociopath? The CBT chapter gives some interesting statistics. The authors state, ”Psychotherapy is associated with a sevenfold faster rate of recovery compared to the naturalistic studies”¦ Without treatment, estimated recovery rates are about 3.7% per year, and with active treatment the rates increase to 25.8% per year.” Also the longer the treatment continues the more improvement there is. They also say, “Unfortunately, people with ASPD have a very high drop out rate.” It makes sense then for family member to encourage those with ASPD to stay in treatment. Don’t expect that treatment to turn a sociopath into a loving, empathetic person, though. All of the authors say that is not a realistic treatment goal. When professionals say a sociopath “has improved,” they mean he/she is not as dangerous and is less impulsive. As Dr. Rotgers’ email to me said, “Harm Reduction: ‘80% of something is better than 100% of nothing’ Alex Wodak”
Adendum
Donna sent me the following comment. Your post today leaves a huge question in the mind of a reader: What can treatment accomplish? Can you please address this?
I will address this question in detail next week. For now I wanted to introduce the names of the psychotherapies. To cover all in one week would have been too much.
TrishNJ… thank you for your kind words about my Myspace.. it is a reflection of who I have become since my socio relationship…. I am proud that I have risen above what was done to me and that I took the higher road….
This is for all here who in those dark moments of lonliness and when the tears come wihtout warning.. when you feel that you are all alone… you are never alone.. He is with you ALWAYS!
http://myspacetv.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=vids.individual&videoid=7312836
Dear Southernman,
I’m sorry you went through all the losses you did. I have cried for many people on this site…you are not alone…and I know God is with you and all who are hurting here. As time goes by you get stronger and stronger and healthier and you build a life with God right beside you. I know you know what I mean.
((hugs))
Trish
So funny,
I just listened to your song after I wrote you that note. ” I know you know what I mean” ….You’re not alone….God is amazing!
It’s my day off and I just turned on the TV and Today on the Mike and Juliet show is all about Narcisistic relationships with mother daughters. watch on M&Jshow.com
sorry thats mandjshow.com
Blondie, about forgiveness, there are two kinds, the dumb kind, where you ease your pain and “make it all go away” by letting them back into your life like nothing ever happened, and the good kind, where you just sort of walk away from the anger, but not from the memories.
I don’t think it’s a good idea to rush that kind, it’s gotta happen in it’s own time. I know if my exes had run up big debts for me it would be terribly hard to let my anger go. There are incidents in my past that make it hard to ever forgive some of the guys in my life. I guess it really depends on you, how quickly you heal and put it all behind you. Just remember when you do forgive, don’t forget. Keep the lessons you learned, even though they left scars on your soul.
Dear Takingmeback. I enjoyed reading your posts. There are so many numerous opportunities and people who will pick those with PDIs up, so many they can try their chances with, that rarely do they fall on their knees enough to break their egos. Especially if they spin their gifts with charm and seduction there will always be more prey to choose from. My ex was crafty, it took me a while to cotton onto the fact that the reason he wasnt inviting me to meet him at work, was that he had gotten me to give him a reference to a job where it is nearly all women in the caring jobs working in the entire building – he has a big pool of prey.
They probably seem seldom crushed enough to invite change. All the ingredients of how they are, are detrimental to them changing – their ego being the main quality
Bev!!
I miss you, sweets! And I also greatly miss Free, OxD, Wini, Lilygirl, Henry…
Don’t you folks disappear on me now. I told you that I am a devoted and loyal friend. Include determined and stubborn to the mix.
I have 0 qualms about visiting a travel agency, booking flights to you alls locations, begging my neighbor to feed and love on my cats, driving to the airport, slurping down jugs of delicious coffee, flying in a cramped airplane while sitting next to chatty cathy, getting lost in your airports and finally discovering the exit after two hours of stumbling around looking like a dufus while unsuccessfully dragging my luggage and developing a serious muscle strain in my shoulder, yelling for a cab, dropping in on a private detective to locate the addresses to your secret mysterious sanctuaries, driving all over the town while enjoying the new sights exclaiming…”ahh” and “wow!” enough times to annoy the cab driver, come to a screaching halt to your hideout, stand at your door, then knock….and greet you with a radiant smile and huge hug.
See? That’s detemination….haha.
Hiya JaneS. Missed you too sweet, but I have been looking in and watching things. Oxy posted today on another thread and well, I hope that sometime soon, Free will pop in to say Hi.
I think I may be one of the only ones posting from the UK? Dont know if the organisers have plans to arrange a ‘live’ meet or perhaps a facility to swap email addresses.
You are sounding soooo well, and that’s a good testimony to healing and evolving – wouldnt you say sweet? (((hugs)))
Hey, I think we should have the meetup in the UK, Bev.
I’ve never been there which is decidedly odd as I’m a huge anglophile; I love everything British, Irish, Scottish, Wal-ish?..haha.
You know all my favorite actors and actresses are originally from the UK, and Australia. And to visit the lovely town of W. Shakespeare’s Stratford-upon-Avon would be a true delight for me! And of course, visting with you would be a good, good thing most of all.
And yes, luv, I’m doing mahvelous, but I wish to share any comfort, solace, encouragement to the new members of Lovefraud that they need. None of us should be alone when confronting the devestating realization of loving a PDI and we all know that Donna’s generous concern and care in creating this awesome site proves beyond a shadow of doubt, that we are never alone.
We gots the Lord and each other!!! ***HUGGLES***