A woman in England is brutally raped. She is diagnosed with PTSD. When she goes for counseling, she cries. And amazingly, because she cried, she is denied further counseling.
Read Rape victim is denied NHS counseling after officials rule ‘it might make her upset’ in DailyMail.co.uk.
Link submitted by a Lovefraud reader.
I had been discussing on another thread with Delta1 (a social worker in the UK) the challenges she has as a social worker in the UK in protecting children.
The “rationed” medical care and mental health care under the NHS in the UK that makes such decisions makes me wonder if they have lost their sanity! I also agree that our own US health care isn’t reasonable either (and don’t know what the new “national” plan will actually do—and really don’t hope that it will make things any better either when we do find out what it will do.) Frankly I don’t have confidence that ANYONE knows what it will do until it is in practice.
It seems the “bean counters” who decide who gets what treatment don’t have the least idea what treatment is indicated post rape. Frankly I would be more surprised if the woman was NOT “upset,” because it might mean she was DEAD already.
Yea for socialized medicine! NOT!!!!
This is sad. Has anyone noticed the recent study that MDMA works to cure PTSD in conjunction with therapy? I was reading that somewhere… let me link it here…
http://www.maps.org/mdma/
Also, I’d just like to say that I feel extraordinarily better… and I secretly suspect that someone on the blog has been praying about me, because my anger over the last week has almost but completely vanished. I feel wonderful, and hopefull… it was almost an overnight thingy – I’ll keep you guys updated, of course… but, I feel remarkably better.
Maybe it’s just from hanging around here, reading your stories, and participating, too… dunno.
But, radical turn-around nevertheless…
Good-luck to everyone on the blog trying to heal. There is really a light at the end of the tunnel. This is a great resource for us here at LF 🙂
wow, the stupidity of this is stunning.
p.s. rather a socialized medicine that helps some without money than a user pay system that helps none. people are denied the service they need every day in amerika…given shoddy treatment or none at all. this woman’s experience is not the ‘fault’ of socialized medicine per se.
She also had to endure a 3 year wait to get preliminary sessions. They really were timely in meeting her needs. Crap you could heal yourself, reinvent yourself, or go through reincarnation before these people can see you.
OXY,
I have heard of heart surgery patients waiting months or more to get their time in socialized countries. If we go that route- say it isn’t so Joe.
Ummmm….don’t even know what to say to this one!
this reminds me of what Sarah Palin did in alaska. she decided that rape victims must pay for their own rape kits.
So if they can’t afford it, the rape wouldn’t even be investigated, because there would be no proof of it.
Geez, only thing worse than misogynist men is mysoginist women.
There is a word for all this and the word is BULLSHIT.
Therapists, social workers, media sluts and adminsitrators should not rule, control or direct.
Its ludicrous. Just!
Reminds me of a time I saw a priest invite a mom with a small child out of a church because the child annoyed him and he could not deliver his sermon with a child in a front pew.
What makes these people so omipotently important that they can use the inability to speak their peace and provide their service instead of giving care?
Its insidious and we have in history seen it before….
Liberte, Equalite, fraternite!
Pitchforks and torches everyone. Meet me at the Bastille!
Silvermoon, you are dead on. This IS exactly what you called it. And I’ll be happy to meet you at the Bastille!
What this woman endured is outrageous! I looked at her picture and I looked at his as well, the rapist. This is NOT the face of one filled with regret and remorse for what he did and SHE has to wait? And she can’t have treatment because she CRIED too much?
one-step, yes, the stupidity of this is stunning.
And the worst part? We’ve heard of this happening before and it will happen again. The perp gets treated better than the victim.
I have to go now and pick my jaw up because it hit the floor when I read this.
Oxy, I certainly agree that this is one of the major flaws of “socialized medicine.” However, I don’t think it’s just the NHS that’s lost its sanity. I think it’s the whole UK that’s lost its sanity. This incident, outrageous as it is, is still only one of countless outrages caused by the tyranny of idiot bureaucrats over there.
Reading the Daily Mail, which published this story, is quite an education. I read it with a kind of horrified fascination at all the garbage that’s been going on in Britain these last few years. Some of the stories are mind-boggling. Just to list a representative sample would take a very long post. To take an example at random here’s a story about a bunch of thieves who stole motorcycles–and police were not allowed to pursue these criminals because the criminals weren’t wearing helmets and might get hurt in a crash! Honestly, you couldn’t MAKE this stuff up!
The nation’s priorities have been turned on their head. One aspect is that instead of cracking down on criminals and other undesirables, the bureaucracy persecutes and rips off respectable, productive citizens, while rewarding idleness. Other aspects of reality have been turned upside down too. Some years ago there was a joke going round about the Multinational Corporation Executive’s Dream: “Living in England, on an American salary, with a Chinese wife and a French cook.” Despite the proverbially dismal weather, England used to be considered a great country to live in. For the record, the Multinational Corporation Executive’s Nightmare was said to be “Living in France, with an American wife (ahem, sorry, this was not my joke!) and a British cook… on a Chinese salary!” Mind you, I’m not sure what was supposed to be so dreadful about living in France… for anyone who speaks the language, that is, which the composer of that joke may not have done. But this preference seems to have been turned upside down today. Many British expats who write in to the newspaper say they’re glad they left, residents say they wish they could leave, and a fair number have moved to France (among other places) and like it better there. Britain, from these accounts, has been ruined.
I don’t understand how this craziness ever came to pass in a nation that’s traditionally been renowned both for its love of liberty and its stolid common sense. All I can do is hazard a theory.
You may be aware that there is a British political party called the Monster Raving Loony Party. Contrary to popular belief, this is not just a Monty Python joke. It is a genuine registered political party, started in 1983 by a guy who reveled in the name of “Screaming Lord Sutch.” The Wikipedia entry says they’ve actually won some seats in the UK, but only on local councils, not in Parliament.
My suspicion is that Wikipedia is not quite up to date on the party’s electoral track record. I think the Monster Raving Loony Party must actually have been in power in Britain for the last thirteen years, having secretly changed their name to “New Labour” (or “Nu Lie-Bore,” as Daily Mail readers spell it), with the late Screaming Lord Sutch reincarnated as their leader Tony BLiar and subsequently as his replacement, Golden Brown. It’s the only explanation I can think of for the monstrous outburst of raving looniness that’s been infecting Britain this last decade and more.
Dear Red,
Thanks for your great response! I’d heard those jokes but they are a couple of my favorite ones! The reason jokes are “funny” is that they hit a nerve of truth. I think though that the way France is going recently it is also changing considerably. “Lord Sutch” has some American incarnations as well. (BTW Monty ROCKS!)
I discovered the Daily Mail and have been reading it daily lately for its “shock value” and unintended “humor.” It actually almost makes the things that are happening in the US seem tame by comparison! I had to read something that would give me a break from current American politicos. When the jury was deadlocked yesterday on 23 of 24 charges against “Bloggo”—all I could think of was that Charlie Manson and Ted Bundy should have been so fortunate to get such a jury!
I do realize that “socialized medicine” isn’t to blame for everything in the world that is wrong, but danged if it isn’t to blame for a great deal of what is wrong with medicine at least. In fact, I think we have had “socialized medicine” here in US with Medicare and insurance cos telling docs what to Rx or not—and the advertizements of “free” scooters and Rx meds on television directly to the consumer “creating a need” in reality, rather than filling a need. Plus, the price of these “free” scooters is so outrageous you could buy the people a car for the same price as the scooters…so the person, who COULD get by well enough with a manual chair or a walker, gets a $7-10,000 electric scooter that they don’t have enough cognitive ability to operate, and it is sold for $150 at their estate auction in UNUSED condition. (that is a real example by the way!) In fact, I bought that chair for a friend of mine who DID need it and couldn’t get one because he couldn’t afford the 20% co-pay and didn’t have the “Medigap insurance” (he couldn’t afford it) to make a chair “free.” (Otherwise he would have qualified for one “free”)
Yes, “raving looniess” has been infecting the world, I think! LOL