For purposes of simplicity I will be using “he” throughout this post to designate the abuser and “she” to designate the abuse victim. We can all agree that males are also abused in relationships by females.
One of the insidious (and enabling) aspects of abuse is that the abuse victim often lacks a credible witness to the abuse that is occurring (or has occurred).
“Witnessing” is the act of validating, of believing, the victim’s presentation of her trauma. It is the willingness to face, not turn away from, the victim’s experience of her experience.
The abuse victim often lacks a mature, credible witness to validate the abuse as existing as a real problem—a real problem that is called “abuse,” and not a watered-down euphemism.
Lacking this validation, she is less empowered to confront the abuse, while the abuser’s leverage is simultaneously strengthened.
One can’t confront, after all, something that isn’t identified, recognized as real.
When we speak of abuse, we are referring to the intentional use of one’s power to control, frighten, cow, shame, restrict, degrade, dismiss, humiliate, suppress, inhibit, isolate, invalidate and/or damage and destroy another person.
I routinely work cases in which abuse is occurring but has yet to be labeled “abuse.” Sometimes the euphemisms, the minimization, or the mis-identification of the abuse begin at the bureaucratic level.
For instance, I recently got a referral through an insurer who described “anger” as the presenting issue. With a little further information, I asked the referrer if “abuse” wasn’t the more relevant concern? A half-minute later, with a little more information, I suggested,“So this is about domestic violence?”
The referring agent, who probably had some mental health training, surprised me with how relieved, almost enthusiastic, she was that I’d apparently called the situation for what it was—abuse.
And so the insurance company, in seeking a provider for the client, could not “witness” for her, at this early stage of her help-seeking, the true predicament (and trauma) she was dealing with.
The culture of secrecy, shame, euphemistic language, and sometimes ignorance surrounding relationship abuse enable and sustain its subterrean status and persistence.
Abuse always is a form of exploitation. But it’s also a tactic; the tactical aim of abuse is to control, restrict, or otherwise subjugate someone. The pattern of abusive behavior defines the abuser, which shouldn’t surprise us, as the aims of abuse speak directly, and indictingly, to character.
The abusive individual chronically uses a variety of defenses—like rationalization, contempt, devaluation, denial, minimization—to support his abusive attitudes and behaviors.
The more, for instance, we devalue someone—the more contempt we feel towards someone—the more we are de-humanizing that person. And the more we de-humanize someone, the more dangerously we expand our latitude to treat (and mistreat) that person as an “object.”
A major aspect of the abuser’s mentality is an inflated sense of entitlement. The abuser feels entitled to what he wants. He doesn’t just want what he wants; he doesn’t even just want what he wants badly.
The abuser demands what he wants.
For the abusive individual, to want something is to deserve it. Anything less than the responsive delivery of what he wants (and feels entitled to) is perceived as an injustice—a personal affront.
He will then use this perceived affront as justification (rationalizing) for his punitive, destructive response.
The abusive individual sees it somewhat like this: I deserved what I wanted; I didn’t get it; now she (as the uncooperative party) deserves to be punished.
When the abuser is too cowardly to punish his real frustrator (say, a boss), he’ll bully, instead, a more vulnerable target, like his partner (or kids).
Often intense anger and abuse are assumed to be synonymous. But it’s important to remember that expressions of anger—even intense anger—aren’t always indicative of abuse, just as expressions of abuse aren’t always delivered as overt anger and rage.
Anger can nicely deliver an abusive intent; but sometimes it’s just anger, not anger as the delivery vehicle of the abuse.
Many intelligent, abusive individuals can convincingly give lip service to the wrongness of their behaviors. Some abusive individuals, who aren’t sociopaths and/or too narcissistically disturbed, can and do confront the driving factors of their abuse and make genuine amends and changes.
But many others can’t, and won’t; their narcissism or sociopathy—in any case their fundamental immaturity and pathological self-centeredness—prove insurmountable.
When I work with cases of abuse “witnessing” for the abused client is vital. Although it’s true therapists shouldn’t make a practice of diagnosing people they’ve never met, it’s also true that when clients have a story to tell of their abuse or exploitation, it would be destructive not to believe them. And if you believe their experience (and why wouldn’t you?), then failing to recognize and label it as one of abuse is to fail them.
Why would it be destructive not to believe the client? Isn’t it theoretically possible that a client could be lying, contriving, or grossly exaggerating? What about false memories? It is exceedingly rare for clients to manufacture experiences of abuse. If anything, the opposite is true: the culture (as noted) of shame, secrecy, and minimization surrounding abuse inclines clients to underreport, not exaggerate, the extent of their victimization.
Invariably, it is the abuser who is guilty of the inverse of exaggerating, which is minimizing. And from the abuser’s minimized perspective, the truth looks like an exaggeration.
In the case of the aforementioned referral, it took little time to see that abuse was prevalent. I saw this couple for a consultation. It’s always an informative, first red flag when a partner tries to take you aside before his partner has shown up to preemptively set the record straight—that is, to assure and prepare you to expect all sorts of exaggerations and misreprentations from the yet-to-arrive partner.
You know that invalidation (and gaslighting), for instance, are issues when you hear (as I did), “Trust me, Doc, what she’s gonna say, it never happened”¦at least not the way she’s gonna say it did.”
These are cases where it’s best not to trust the client.
(This article is copyrighted (c) 2009 by Steve Becker, LCSW.)
Creampuff, I know exactly what you mean. From puberty my older spath daughter had that look which used to give me the shivers.Cold, and hateful. I once saw her hate filled eyes scanning me over the top of the paperback book she was reading,{“The shining’, by Stephen King!”LOL!} and Ive never seen so much HATE directed at me! At the time I was going to a prayer group, and the old retired preacher who ran it told me she had a ‘walk-in spirit, anevil spirit that came and went. I got to know when “it’ was absent, as she was quite nice to me then. When she moved in with my new 2nd husband and I fora few months,{[pity ploy, she was homeless, sob!!} she made so much trouble. got into the drinks cabinet,ran D . down to me, ran me down to D. Finally we found a nice bedsit for her close to our flat. We moved her in, she said she loved it. Two month s late r, a call from he landlady to say shed ‘done a runner’ owing 3 weeks rent,{which of course, we had to pay!Plce left in a filthy state.She use to Triangle D and I, for example if I was late home from my teaching job, shed fly at me,”We {my husband and her} have been busy cooking, and you cant even show up on time!”One time she accused me of stealing her make up bag, why would I do that? I bought it for her! A week later, I found it on her bed.”Oh, so you found your make up purse then?’ I said to her.
“No!! You obviously lied, stole it, and are now replacing it!” she said. How sick and twisted is that?!
These people are something else!As you said, its always below the surface. simmering away, their hatred of us.{{HUGS}} Gem.XX
Gemini Girl and OxDrover…you 2 are my “sisters”………you so “get it”…….you are right that as long as you play your role that they have assigned you everything is cool…..but in your soul it just doesn’t pass the smell test. I have seriously considered in the future moving to PA with my normal youngest daughter to get away from all these “lurkers”…here’s a question for you both..maybe you can advise…..what would happen if I just rise up and stand my ground? If I tell my husband that I refuse any contact with her at all, what kind of reaction do you think I would get? Of course I know I will come off as the bad guy to him and her, but I really don’t care about that…..My husband is the crowned prince of passive aggression…..I mean, he is a classic case…he cannot confront anyone about anything, but he will punish me in sneaky, quiet ways that I never see coming…it’s like they are a package deal……if I’m not sweet to her, then he will punish me….I hate coming across as such a wimp !! I’m in my 50’s …..I should be stronger than this….reading my own post is embarrassing…..I’m listening girls, hit me with your best shot !!
Dear Creampuff,
First off let me recommend a book to you that I think will probably answer your questions about what will happen.
“Stalking the Soul, Emotional abuse and the erosion of Idenity” by Marie-France Hirigoyen it is available used from Barnes and Noble for about 12$ including shipping. I just finished reading it and it points out so well what you are living through and what I DID live through with my family of origin.
“Passive-Aggressive” is AGGRESSIVE that is covert, sneaky and just as mean as a person who openly calls you a nasty name and hits you in the mouth, maybe worse, as they smile while they do it. You know it is is mean, and they know it is mean, but everyone pretends it is not.
If you stand up to your husband now after all these decades of letting him manipulate and punish you if you step out of line, first he will punish you harder THAN HE EVER HAS BEFORE, and if that doesn’t work, he will do his best, along with h is poor P daughter that “YOU are abusing” to cast you out of the family circle and the family home to live in the streets and eat out of a McDonald’s dumpster and rationalize that you deserve what you got.
I do not need a “crystal ball” to figure out what the story will be or how the “script” will play out or what the PLOT IS. That girl has been trying to get rid of you for decades, probably most of her life. As for your bio-daughter-P, she doesn’t like you any better and will jump on the band wagon to help her satanic step sister, and as my P-son said to his dupes “Mom can’t fight us, there are more of us, we are smarter and we are RIGHT!” Even my “good” (non-P) son told my adopted son D that he would have to Leave the farm,, and the point of all this plan was to leave me ALONE without any support or validation, making me more helpless and vulnerable, so that I would permanently leave my home if they were not able to find me to kill me.
Sounds like something out of a bad movie plot, but that’s just what it is is like a SCRIPT that they play out.
You are 50 years old you said, I don’t know if you work or have worked out side the home, and so on, or what your financial status is. I would suggest though that if you decide you don’t want to stay there under the conditions like they are (because as soon as you stand up and show any resistance to the status quo ALL HELL WILL BREAK LOOSE) I strongly suggest you make plans IN SECRET to leave and go live with your daughter at least for now.
I would accumulate cash, important papers, insurance, check on how much Social Security you might draw at 62, assess your marketable skills for work between now and when you can retire. Make sure that you know what marital assets are and where they are and get them secured so your husband cannot leave you broke and destitute. I would consult an attorney after I got all those ducks in a row and find out what your state’s laws are on division of property, etc.
Once all this is done, THEN stand up and give the man a choice, but passive aggressive people in my experience do not respond well to this kind of a situation. Doesn’t sound like your marriage has been all that “wonderful” in spite of the fact that he doesn’t beat you physically on a regular basis. Sounds to me like you live in a WAR ZONE. It is just frankly, do you want to continue to live in a war zone or do you want a divorce? That just appears to me to be your only two choices.
As one member of a dysfunctional family situation starts to get healthy and set boundaries, the others in the family go ALL OUT TO PUT THEM BACK INTO LINE. Been there and done that, that is why I will never break emotional NC with my egg donor. You cannot trust them EVER because they are in deep deep denial.
God bless, Creampuff! ((((hugs)))))
evenin’ all!
Been reading loads today, I mean really loads and lots of reading word for word sending out a sweet nod of the head at you all. Ironically when we let out a cry of utter confusion and overwhelming disbelief at the enormity of ‘the experience’, you all come across as being strong and tough as bones as you are able to articulate, do the research, relate, question what our next moves are, and point a middle finger back at the nuts out there.
This community has such a diverse array of people – there are those who are raw from such a recent experience who can receive help from the more experienced speakers who can respond with such acute timing and the right words. I haven’t attached any mages of you in my mind, as we are all in this together, no matter where we are at in the stage of recovery. Authors>posters. We’re all reading from the same sheet.
I’m trying to understand more about the witnesses that are not around us, but around the abusers. The crowd who are deceived into believing the abuser. I’m sure there’s a page somewhere about the behaviour the abusers exhibit around their crowd, enablers, sympathisers, apologists.
My elder sister received a call from S neighbour questionign why I had reappeared and this is where she set the ball rolling for elder abuse/finance abuse. My sister & her husband ignored it. My sister then confronted neighbour about something else she said about me (this time in person); the neighbour didn’t deny what she said, she denied ever having a conversation at all. So it wasn’t the specific topic, but the entire meeting! This was the start of my sister’s own realisation that she was used as a pawn; used to flame the neighbour’s storyline. This totally knocked my sister sideways. And so interestingly, my sister was on the receiving end of malice (from neigbbour and my S sis)!
The males in my family are so far away they are in no position to be witnesses, but nod their heads like those bobbing toys. I’m just interested to understand who abusers choose to target as their apologists. Do they in any way display traits or certain criteria to be used as deceptively as the abuser’s target?
I actually believe the most damage is the crowd. there are three groups of people (I’ve alwasy viewed this my entire life):
* abuser
* 6 billion people
* anyone who associates with the abuser (ie your friends, family, church, colleagues, neighbourhood, anyone who comes into contact with abuser)
It is the 3rd group who I always believed are more of a danger as we are all familiar with the abuser’s dulpicitous role. I’m just not aware of reading much about how much the 3rd group are validated.
Until the adoring ones get burned and then they have the AH! moment we wished to give them ahead of time.
This is what gave me a lovely feeling of hope. But does it happen often enough to convince me that in a family as mine so deceived and speaking the abuer’s vocabulary and dialogue, can I one day look forward to the day when one of my siblings can come to me and say ‘Outlier, I don’t believe what she says’? My brothers have the EQ of zero in my experience; they just dont function on that kind of wavelength. adly they’re from the stock who believe ‘mentally ill people shoudl be locked up”, not understanding thatmental health is predominant in all humans (stress, depression – a huge stigma in my clan). My mother suffered depression, not one of my brothers responded with one sincere word – it was all me and elder sister. The doc S sis? Nothing. She watched us deal with it, but raked the credit when she passed all the info she heard as her own observation. When she was 18 starting her medical course I thought she was joking. Her status as doctor is her powerful mask. Abuse, but play caring doc who knows about mental health. [she imitated patients to me when she was doing a residency in mental health as part of her training]. I kid you not.
So… the witnesses abusers gather round – do they possess a certain vulnerability also?!
Dear Outlier,
Ah, yes! sometimes they also have an agenda with you, jealousy or just “don’t give a chit” like maybe your brothers, or just “go with the flow” or in some cases, don’t want to “get involved and have to take a stand. It is EASIER to watch someone be abused and not have the wrath of the abuser point back at them.
Your Psychopathic sister being a physicaian is like many ps who have “letters after their names” that convey honesty and caring or status within the community, like Rev., MD, PhD, Chief, Captain, General, Esq. or Your Honor…they use that to help them diminish and devalue the victims or anyone who confronts them. I’m sorry that your P sister has this “status” which she can use against you. I’m sorry that some of your sibs “don’t get it” or “don’t care” one way or another.
My suggestion is that you get a book called “Stalking the Soul, Emotional abuse and the erosion of Idenity” by Marie-france Hirigoyen, Barnes and Noble has it for about $12 including shipping. It is one of THE best books on emotional abuse I have read and though she does not call them “Psychopaths” but “perverse abusers” she nails them right on the head, as well as the people who “won’t get involved” and why.
It’s a long process but you’ve come to a great spot. Most of us “old hands” here that sometimes seem to post like we have it together (and we may most of the time) were “basket cases” at one time and myself for a LONG TIME at that. What sanity I have now, what resolve I have now, came from reading and learning here, and with the support of people here. (((Hugs))))
Winesses are broken people. They have as investent in their relationships with the spaths. They are cowards, and must turn a blind eye, in order to maintain the status-quo. They feel they have more to lose in outing the spath, than in losing a relationship with us. The spaths know this, because they see weakness in everybody. They know exactly what the witness wants, and they deliver.
It’s like herd mentality. It’s like bullying. It takes an enormous sense of self-esteem, empathy, and honesty for a witness to turn.
When I was a young girl I saw the saddest movie. It broke my heart. It was called, “Sooner.” Has anyone seen it?
It was about a little girl, raised by her uneducated, uncaring Grandmother, and she experienced a lot of neglect, and lonliness.
She found a baby bird, and loved it, making a pet out of it, and it fulfilled her need for love and companionship.
Well, toward the end of the movie, a lot of other kids appeared on the sceene, kids that in the past had rejected her, and they started bullying the bird, and because she was so broken, and damaged and hungry, she joined in and killed the bird..
I think sometimes, witnesses are as weak, and damaged as Sooner was Just a thought. But you can bet that the spaths know the weakness and will exploit it.
Dear OxDrover, (I’m touched you responded).
My above post was written with you very much in mind. Perhaps because you had responded to me in the last few days.
Your book caught my eye about an hour ago, whilst responding to someone on the site. I was thinking did that author go through this? I guess they would have? Typing the book details won’t go to waste, it’s noted in my jotter.
… “don’t want to “get involved and have to take a stand. It is EASIER to watch someone be abused and not have the wrath of the abuser point back at them …”
You are so spot on. How many times have you read that??
I posted here last year but so briefly as ptsd set in. It’s a good sign I can be on LF and read the emails with interest and not leave them “unread”. Inviting users to participate in that survey was a great booster, strangely enough. I felt more compelled to be a part of LF because of that survey. Hmmm..
Dear Outlier,
Many if not most of the people who were here on LF at the time I first came here somewhat over 2 years ago (I can’t really remember when I first came here) are gone now, a few check in once in a while, but I am still here almost daily and most days several times a day…because of two reasons.
The first is I still learn new things and reinforce them within myself every day. Even posting and giving advice to someone else reinforces that in myself because it makes me stop and think.
Secondly, I feel a great gratitude to Donna and those earlier posters who held my hand, welcomed me, cried with me, and supported me, and I feel therefore a great need to give back some of what I received. To pass on the gifts I was given of insight, compassion, caring, and sometimes a kick in the pants!
I am a book-a-holic and continually haunt the internet looking for good affordable books that will help me heal, which I now know is not a PLACE, but a JOURNEY.
Most of the time I have quit bashing myself in the head for “being so stoooopid” to let a series of psychopaths use and abuse me—and frankly it is comforting to know that there are a bunch of SMART folks here who have been just as “stoooopid” as I was, and I would never bash them so I am stopping bashing myself! I am trying to learn to treat myself as well as I treat others!
I’m glad that you feel strong enough to read here more and feel welcome to post here and share. The PTSD is a b1atch, but it can be managed even in those of us who have had a severe episode of it. Accepting that it is what it is, but that it isn’t a “death sentence” and we can be released from the worst of the effects of it and still have a good life is I think part of that key to success. We disown the role of victim, and start to OWN THE ROLE OF SURVIVOR AND VICTOR. Even if they hurt us, we survived! Just by surviving we have WON!
TOWANDA for us all!!!!! ((((hugs))))
Dearest Creampuff,
I think, no. I KNOW that if you are ANYTHING like me, you WILL get to the place when you will FINALLY know that you know that you know, that youve had ENOUGH!
I left my alcohoic husband and my 2 spath daughters, after years a nd years of emotional abuse, and finally physical abuse, both from my older spath D and from my ex husband.
But it still took me 2 YEARS to summon up th e courage,to get the hell out. I had no money, no job at the time,I was around 45 years old. I was racked with guilt for leaving my teenagers.
{who I now know didnt care a rats behind about me then and still dont!}All I can say, is eventually you WILL KNOW without a shadow of a doubt that youve HAD IT< and that for your dsnity, and very survival, you HAVE to leave. My ex wouldnt leave, so I had to.It was very very hard, but I DID it! And 6 monts later,, I met my 2nd darling husband, but I had to get out, survive, an d heal myself first! I did survive, everything came to me, money, friends, a pt time job, and my nice husband.My ex was FURIOUS that I escaped, and used to tell my girls,{who lived with him,} "Mum will come home when shes hungry, well starve her out! " I vowed then Id rather starve than go back to him,{and them!}They told me this with great glee!
So, Creampuf, No-on can make that decision for you, but believe me, when youve had enough, you will just KNOW, and you WILL get out! Love, {{HUGS!!}} and good luck,Gem.XX
Well put Gem, we all have to make our own choices—that is the BOTTOM LINE. People treat us the way we allow them to. People who have abused us for a long time think they have the RIGHT to do so and highly resent us stopping them, so they get worse before it gets better.
Your P daughters can’t abuse you any more because YOU will not allow it. You have put yourself in control of your life. TOWANDA!