Recently Lovefraud heard from a woman whom we’ll call Trina. Trina was involved with a sociopath for five years, who abandoned her eight months ago, after wrecking her financially and emotionally. Still, she continued to be in shock, denial and disbelief—until the guy sent her the following poem:
Catch and Release
Before I pull your hair and leave you for dead
I will ravish you
not physically, but with words sensuous and firm
with sibilance rolling off my chameleon tongue
and metaphors byzantine and allusive pitched
to that intimate space between your ears.
I will watch you wriggle with denial,
claw with anger, bargain for release,
splash like a drowning animal in hopelessness.
And when I observe the contour of your acceptance,
the precise moment your will bends pliantly to mine
I will release you.
Game over.
Trina was horrified, and when she communicated this to the guy, he denied that the poem was at all autobiographical. He said she needed to “lighten up;” she was too “up tight;” he’d just taken a line from a TV show and embellished it. Here’s how he explained it to Trina:
“I thought that was a great opening line and I twisted it a bit, threw in Elizabeth Kubler-Ross’s five stages of grief as I played on the word ‘dead’ and created a poem, role playing the braggart and using a line that fishermen do when they fish for fun and not food.”
“This man knows he drove me to the point of near suicide,” Trina says, “and rather than feeling badly for it, he actually taunts me, to this day.”
When there is no reason
Many sociopaths are parasites, manipulating people into giving them money, food, sex, a place to live—whatever. But some sociopaths, who may actually hold down a job and have their own resources, manipulate people, even torment them, just for the fun of it.
There are sociopaths who break women’s hearts just to watch them fall apart. There are sociopaths who commit crimes just to prove they can get away with it. There are sociopaths who disrupt workplaces for their own amusement. These people simply want to be puppet masters, pulling strings and watching everyone else jump.
This is probably the most difficult type of sociopathic behavior to comprehend. Many of us have spent hours, days, weeks, even years trying to figure out why a sociopath acted the way he or she did. Sometimes there is no reason other than the sociopath found the situation he or she created to be entertaining.
So how do we come to grips with this? How do normal people, who try to be considerate and cooperative, understand this behavior?
We can’t. These sociopaths are totally twisted. It’s just the way they are.
slimone
ha ha ha….either way I’m hanging on to reality by a thread!!
Oxy…so sorry that you have lost a beloved pet, that is to say, a beloved family member. Regardless of the circumstances, your companion knew she/he was loved, and as you know, that is the most precious gift in life. Loss of love is never easy, and you know your pet loved you too. I just read an article about dogs intelligence being equal to that of a two year old toddler. So many don’t credit how very hard it is to lose a pet. There is a real depth of connection there. I’m so sorry you are undergoing yet another devastating loss, but may the love you shared comfort you.
justabouthealed – I was telling Oxy that (our) friend (WINI) lost one of her pet’s (Neuphy),,sorry I was not more clear on my earlier post…..
No, you were clear! I’m sick at the moment, strep, not thinking too good!
WINI, please read what I wrote to Oxy, and know it was meant for you!
Dear Gang,
Tthanks so much for your support. This morning the guys and I had a family meeting to discuss tactics with the Reverend, and also decided to bring in another Christian (life long friend) that knows about all this, he goes to church where my egg donor goes and will be supportive. The REverend knows him well and so his help will be a plus for us, just by his presence if nothing else.)
Son C was so stressed this morning, he cannot break no contact, even to go talk to the Rev. But, instead is going to write a letter to the Rev. telling him that he would be there but he is just so bereaved he is UNABLE to. I told C that I knew he would go if he could, but I TOTALLY UNDERSTAND and do NOT want him to try to do something he cannot handle. I think the letter will be enough to help with the Rev.
A friend who knows the whole story and has good judgment and insight was at our family meeting too, and offered some good suggestions and we went over the PLAN on how to present this to the Rev. I know I will NEVER TRUST her again, but I can’t say that to the Rev. but I don’t have to tell him everything, so will NOT say that to him.
I also know if this succeeds, that I will have to have some contact with her and that is okay too, I know it will be difficult, but it is like having to work for one, you know what they are and just watch your back and DON’T TRUST THEM. I think I am ready for that, though I can FEEL THE STRESS in my back muscles.
My friend suggested that I remember back to the way I was, so devestated, so distraught etc. two years ago + and tap into that “personna” and let the Rev SEE that “me”—I think it is a good idea. I realize this is a “plot” and a “manipulation”—the kind of things a P would do to get what they want for themselves, but I have no “guilty” feeling about doing this as I know it is forcing her into a corner to do what is RIGHT and will protect my safety. If this works, she will be “between the devil and the deep blue sea” and have NO CHIOICE but to do the right thing, or BE PUBLICLY EXPOSED as a FAKE—which I think is her GREATEST NIGHT MARE.
I’m being good to myself today, and sons D and C are playing board games with a friend, and I dread this whole encounter of the worst kind, but if I don’t take advantage of running into the Rev I will always wonder if it would have worked.
Thanks for the thoughts, prayers and concerns…this is a toughie, but I’m gonna hang tough but without any expectations on it working, if it does, great, and if not, “nothing ventured, nothing gained!” ((((Hugs))))) and prayers rise always for your healing.
Hi Everyone! I’ve just been catching up! My daughter and I spent the day after her birthday together cooking and she spent the night (she’s 29 now!). It was wonderful, then I broke NC because the spath called to see how she was. And I backslid. He didn’t call until after she left.
I’m still in the angry~ actually raging stage, and I went out and I drank and danced under the moon. There was an annual outside event that I went to. It actually made me feel better, but I don’t want to partake in John Barleycorn! I’m disappointed in myself but I feel as though I can bounce back a little better now.
After catching up on the posts, it is so beautiful to see so many people, lovely people, (and yes that are too nice, too everything that is good for a S to take advantage of,) anyway people that are truly caring and forgiving and sharing in a way I don’t think I have ever witnessed. It helps me to bounce back.
Glad to hear I could contribute to the LF phrases!! My S didn’t like that phrase (relationshit) when I first used it a while back!!
Thanks for being here people. You are the foundation of healing in so many ways. I miss this place when I am gone from it for a few days.
CONGRATULATIONS TO MOVIN’ ON!! It makes me think of how people are in mourning and then they move on!! Good for you!! That is truly a milestone!!!
Good Day to all, talk soon. 2MUCH
Newlily, I am the “Trina” that the poem “Catch and Release” is addressed to. My ‘fisherman’ is in fact an excellent writer, which IS what drew me to him in the first place. My love for words was my Achilles’ heel, and he figured that out very quickly. This is why the poem mentions words as the bait. “B” hopes to be published someday, and I do not doubt it, because his imagination, wit and writing abilities are truly impressive. I’m only mentioning this to emphasize the fact that psychopaths are very often brilliant individuals, excellent with words, with a keen ability to dazzle their victims with their “chameleon tongue”. This is why my relationship with him was so disconcerting, and why I was so shocked and in such a state of denial when he ended it so abruptly. I admired his talent and provided the praise he needed, but it was necessary for him to seek new “thrills”. If only he could stop in one place long enough, he might actually get somewhere…
For His Memory
Do you remember February 1993 in England ,when a
young boy of 3 was taken from a Liverpool shopping
centre by two 10-year-old boys?
Jamie Bulger walked away from his mother for only
a second, Jon Venables took his hand and led him out
of the mall with his friend Robert Thompson. They took
Jamie on a walk for over 2 and a half miles, along the
way stopping every now and again to
torture the poor little boy who was crying
constantly for his mummy.
Finally they stopped at a railway track where they
brutally kicked him, threw stones at him, rubbed paint
in his eyes, pushed batteries up his anus and cut his
fingers off with scissors. Other mutilations were
inflicted but not reported in the press.
N.B. :- Remember, a 3year old cannot possibly
defend themselves ag ainst a 10 year old, let alone of 2 them.
What these two boys did was so horrendous that
Jamie’s mother was forbidden to identify his body.
They then left his beaten small body on railway
tracks so a train could run him over to hide the mess
they had created. These two boys, even being boys,
understood what they did was wrong, hence trying to
make it look like an accident.
This week Lady Justice Butler-Sloss has awarded
the two boys ( now men ), anonymity for the rest of
their lives when they leave custody with new
identities. They will also leave custody early only
serving just over half of their sentence.
They are being relocated to Australia to live out
the rest of their lives. They disgustingly and
violently took Jamie’s life away and in return they
each get a new life
PIGS!
OXY:
GIRL…..you go plant those seeds! Gotta do what we gotta do huh!
If we get an opportunity to protect ourselves for the future (you cutting off $$ supply to the P son ~prison bitch) then I say……roll with it.
Sometimes we get these chances that appear and we can pull on our ‘inner sociopath’ and direct the missile into the path of oncoming danger.
No sense in waiting for the danger to occur then act!
It’s best to be the one with bird in hand.
NOW……several years ago, I would have thought differently……but going through such an intense battle for our lives……NOT A CHANCE I WILL PLACE MYSELF ON THE LOWER END OF THAT STICK…..if given the chance to be on top.
I will no longer be the one to be slugged first. If I sense danger…..I’m coming out with all of my arsenol.
GO OXY, GO OXY, GO OXY…….
Sending strength your way…….it’ll be tough, and don’t expect it to all go ‘your way’…….but something good will come out of this, one way or another.
Remember, if we don’t have expectations……we can’t be disappointed!
Good luck~!
XXOO