Trying to solve problems or make any type of progress with individuals with personality disorders can be very difficult. Virtually every communication is insulting, repetitive, and circular. They are seemingly unable to stay on topic and have propensities for driving others off topic. Covering the same ground to no avail can be exhausting for the non-disordered participants, as they tend to push relentlessly for our participation in their arguments.
It is easy to fall into their communication traps and become engaged in their attempts for power. However, with knowledge and diligence, we can re-train ourselves to successfully stand our ground by controlling our own behaviors.
A few simple steps
1. Eliminate emotion from the communication
There are times when we must communicate with individuals with personality disorders. Often, they see these times as opportunities to abuse, manipulate, and engage us. If it’s fun to make us angry, they will likely try. Taking our emotions out of the communication equation, however, will make for less interesting interactions. So, regardless of what they may include in their communication, we must keep it all business.
2. Communicate using facts and few words
We should not employ a running commentary on their behavior, our issues with their behavior, or our feelings and wishes. We should also avoid any type of advice. We are best served by keeping communication short, simple, and factual.
3. Stay on topic, communicating only regarding the issue at hand
We tend to write or speak in effort to come to a solution or make collaborative decisions. We tend to not get anywhere, however, when we are dealing with those with personality disorders. Frequently, they refuse to answer even direct questions, refuse to directly discuss the issue being addressed, or shift the topic altogether. Not only are non-responses frustrating and useless wastes of time, but they keep us engaged. We must learn to communicate regarding relevant material only.
4. If the other party attempts to shift the topic without resolution, re-direct at once
Naturally, they often try to shift the topic without reaching a conclusion. Why? Because a resolution is not what they are looking for and it usually keeps us reeling. They are not looking to solve matters, in spite of the fact that they will tell us they are. Rather, the discussion constitutes engagement and opportunity to attack us further or fuel their “supply.” Resist contributing to this and re-direct them at once. Do not get lost in their name calling or desire for back and forth.
5. Communicate stance, but do not repeat
We must say what we mean and mean what we say. We must resist making threats or presenting ultimatums. We should make our positions clear in as non-confrontational a way as possible and resist repeatedly covering the same ground with no results. Typically, we are effective communicators. Our failure to progress on an issue with a disordered individual is usually not our fault.
6. Do not waver from that stance due to bullying, set boundaries
Sometimes, if we feel bullied, we may back down in an effort to ameliorate the situation. That almost never works. If legitimate facts come to light and we change our positions based on something concrete, that is different. We need not be bull headed. However, we should not change our positions simply to keep peace with these personalities. While under normal circumstances, compromise works well, with them, we will only be seen as weak and they will exploit us at the next opportunity. And they will see to it that there is a “next opportunity.” Set boundaries as soon as possible.
7. Do not worry about what they think
What they think of us will not change. They view us negatively, and unlike with the non-disordered, our actions will not change that. Try very hard not to become involved in the debate about responsibility and who is right or wrong. It is futile.
8. Do not allow their lies and projection to become part of the truth
Individuals with personality disorders tend to enjoy putting others on the defensive. That is not a desirable place for us to be. However, we can choose not to participate. That does not mean that we should allow their lies to become “facts” either. We should state the truth once to the audience who needs to hear the truth. That’s usually enough. If we carry on for too long, we run the risk of allowing them to alter the “facts.”
9. Plan ahead for these types of struggles
For the most part, unless being “nice” to us directly benefits them or their cause, it’s safe to say we will not be treated well in these exchanges. We must accept that and not allow the mistreatment to hurt our feelings or catch us off guard. Time and a solid understanding of what happens in these exchanges will eventually place them so far away from us emotionally that none of this will matter.
However, in the interim, we must stop looking to them for validation or approval. It is not coming. Why do we care what someone overflowing with disorder thinks? When someone distorts most of their surroundings, would we expect them to properly interpret us? No. As mysterious as they seem, the majority of their behavior becomes fairly predictable, once we become experienced. Further, they all operate similarly enough for us to be able to plan ahead to some extent.
Exhausted yet?
This all takes practice. We should not expect that we are immediately good at this. Without question, I have made my share of mistakes. Retrospectively, I look back at some of the ways I handled certain circumstances and wonder what the heck I was thinking. The truth is that I simply did not know what to do at the time. I thought that expressing myself would help bring about positive change. I thought my words would help better explain things. Not with these folks. We do nothing more than give them more to twist. So avoid excess. Once we learn, we can operate more effectively and in ways in which we know we will be beneficial.
Donna, I SO very badly needed to read this today!!!!! Thank You! Also Thank You Linda!!
My ex is on a rampage right now because the judge actually has signed the judgement in my favor. I’m tired of actively pursuing no contact and of course any communication involves stonewalling, lies and circularity. It really is a no win in any dealing with them.
Linda – this article is magnificent. To all Lovefraud readers: If you are in a situation where you must communicate with a sociopath, please read this! Linda’s advice will help you tremendously.
Linda, this is a gem of an article, I find the disordered personality’s craving for intense drama and conflict baffling, exhausting and anxiety producing and your advice will be most useful to refer to if I am unlucky enough to have any direct dealings with my disordered abuser or any other PD in future. Many thanks!
You all are most welcome! Glad you find it helpful! I know this can be very challenging and I also know it can be hard to figure out at first.
Linda,
This is a great article! I wish I’d had it when I was still with spath-it would have spared me so much pain! I tried so hard to understand him and help him change;make him happier so that I could be happier! Arggh! I knew nothing about sociopaths!
This article is great. I had to talk to mine yesterday. One of the last things between us is a car loan in both our names. I generally don’t talk to her but the bank said her phone had been cut off and she was almost sixty days late. I can take her car at 90 days but they were threatening credit damage so I had to send her a note. I followed the guidelines here. And having been here a while I can now clearly see how she is trying to manipulate me. I’m gonna share the exchange. I only email with her (no contact rule) when there is business. This is our first true exchange since last June.
Note – she made a huge deal about changing her last name back from mine and putting it in our divorce decree…and hasn’t done it despite promises to do so during business exchanges as I cleaned up and cut all ties between us aside of these last two lingering things. She also said she would refinance the car. And hasn’t done it. Watch her change her stance during this exchange.
Email One (from me)
(ex-spath)
The Car – (the bank) called 6/25. You know why. If you haven’t already, please pay your bills and seek refinancing options. I will return my key when I have proof my name is off the loan.
Last Name – I checked the public records. You have apparently not changed your last name from mine. Please do so and update your email addresses.
thx
Her response:
(my name)
The car is taken care of. I will refinance it when I have the opportunity. Since you have been speaking to my ex-boyfriend I know you are aware of my situation.
I will change my name when I have the resources available. Do not contact me again.
(ex-spath)
Note about the ex boyfriend: I went to high school with him in another state. He came to me wondering what the hell happened to him when they broke up so I gave him a link to this site, shared my story, and answered his questions in the spirit of love fraud. We agree- she isn’t particularly charming or smart, but the spath shoe fits her perfectly. She uses the same sob story to get in, love bombs you, then recycles the same lies to hide her numerous affairs and shady activities. I am not aware of her situation. I didn’t ask, and no one has told me because I have asked not to be told about her.
She should not have known we talked. She clearly doesn’t know what we talked about, though. I think she is fishing and the remark was meant to throw me off. I didn’t take the bait.
My response to keep her on track:
(ex-spath)
I will happily respect that wish when I no longer have to take threatening calls from (the bank) and when the email that shows up (and the public records) say your last name is “(her maiden name.)”
Until such time as these matters are resolved I will contact you as needed to see that they have been attended to, as is my legal right per our divorce decree.
(my name)
She got very haughty with her next response and note her gloating about control. She also changed her story. This is all from the same afternoon, within minutes. Usually she takes days. I think she is bored and looking for a playmate.
Her response:
(my name)
The divorce decree stated if the car became 90+days past due. That has not happened and will not, therefore there is no need for you to contact me regarding this.
Regarding my name change, the Divorce decree gives my the option, not the requirement to change my name. At this point I do not anticipate changing my name in the public records and will continue to be (married name.) This is my choice and not something you have control over. Just because the option is in the Divorce Decree it does not give you a legal right to contact me.
Moving forward I will not respond to any correspondence from you in any form. I wish you the best in your endeavors and I am happy to close the chapter of my life that you were a part of.
Sincerely,
(ex-spath)
Actually 90 days is when I can take the car from her. If I get calls from the creditor and have to make a payment for her I am also allowed to take the car. She glossed over that part since it’s not useful. She is correct about the name change – I asked my lawyer – but she is usually dumb about checking on legalities. I figured two birds with one stone, minimal contact, and she had previously said she would take care of that this spring when she had her totaled car picked up from my house in January (long story – it had been sitting there for a year.) She has chosen not to remember this. I can see the argument she wants to pull me into. And in the past her attitude would’ve angered me. Not now. I was too busy to respond last night but sent this back this morning to firmly reiterate my position.
(ex-spath)
I don’t know or care what your current situation is.
Keeping my last name keeps the chapter between us open, as does having my name on your car loan.
I wasn’t asking for nor do I need your permission; if I hear from (the bank), you will hear from me.
(my name)
I really hate talking to her. She is an ass. But it’s the first time I have engaged her in discussion and not gotten angry. I am somewhat amused, and just kind of surprised her responses were so like the other spath responses I’ve seen and how obvious it was that she was trying to pull me off topic into an argument. She even tried a pity play (I am assuming her situation is bad) and probably was hoping I’d offer to pay for her name change lol. No matter what she says next (if anything) I am not going to respond.
How’d I do?
It sounds frustrating but not sufficinet reason to contact her. You initiated, provoked and concluded this vindetta. It is no business of yours if she changers her name or not. Drop it and turn the car loan over to your lawyer. How did you do? The only thing I see that you accomplished is to convince her not to change her name for spite.
DarthNollidge – Marvelous!!
You did great DarthN, that’s how you did. May the force be with you till she’s permanently removed from your life.
When trying to actually talk to the latespath, not just pass the time of day, he would never look at you. He would just cock his head, roll his eyes, and put up a wall of silence, the subject didn’t matter. It was his way of letting you know your words were worth nothing. Allowing you to stew in your own anger.
He would react the same way escort’s emails if they asked him a question. He would just ignore them. His non response would get to EscortM so deeply that she would eventually email him “I knew you would not answer me”.
It appears that some spaths are masters of silence.
Silence and indifference are the most cruel of all their tools after they have lovebombed you and
chased you into a corner. They are masters of evil and destruction.
This is an amazingly helpful article, and thanks for posting it. I have found recently a very simple way to implement it all, as a central guiding principle: If I’m feeling uncomfortable about a pending or current conversation, I just put myself in a more pleasurable place and opt out of the garbage. I stop dancing the dance. This is my MY life, MY precious time, every moment of it, to be spent as I choose.
There is nothing to discuss.
Sistersister, I like that. For those of us sweating all the what if’s and how do I’s this is a good home base. Another great article here btw. I’m getting spoiled.