By Joyce Alexander, RNP (retired)
One of the things I have heard from victims of psychopaths here at Lovefraud, seemingly over and over, is that people compare their losses to my losses and Donna’s losses and Dr. Liane Leedom’s losses, etc. and think that their losses don’t “count” because they haven’t lost X, Y, or Z and we did. They seem to think that because I lost a child, or Liane lost her medical practice, or Donna lost a quarter of a million dollars, that they are not entitled to feel as injured as we were/are.
The people expressing this somehow seem to have “survivor’s guilt” about feeling so devastated when their losses were somehow “less.” Or they feel that we are somehow “super heroes” because we survived “big losses.”
I felt that way too when I was reading Dr. Viktor Frankl’s book, Man’s Search for Meaning. Dr. Frankl wrote the book after his years in a German Nazi concentration camp, in which he lost everything except his life, and barely retained that.
Pain is like gas
I felt that my own losses didn’t compare to Dr. Frankl’s losses, and that somehow I should feel guilty for feeling such great pain and desperation. Then I read Dr. Frankl’s explanation of how pain operates like a gas.
In science, we learn that a gas, because it has atoms that are far apart, will expand until it completely fills an empty container. It will also compress easily so that a larger amount of the gas can be put into a small container. In any case, the container is full. It is totally filled.
I realized upon reading this that my pain was just as “total” as Dr. Frankl’s, and that my losses were just as “big” (or “small”) as his were. All pain and all loss is total. If something is important to us, we value it and when we lose it, we grieve for that loss. We feel pain, which is what grief is.
Grief process
The “grief process,” as Dr. Elizabeth Kubler-Ross explains it, is an emotional process where we come to grips with loss, and eventually come to acceptance of that loss.
Dr. Kubler-Ross’s grief process consists of denial, bargaining, sadness, anger and acceptance. These five stages of grief are not processed in a linear 1-2-3-4-5 formula, but in alternating steps, more like 1-3-4-2-3-4-1-2-4-5. Eventually we come to and stay in the last stage, which is acceptance of the loss.
A baby who drops his pacifier is totally in misery and pain. He cries from the depth of his soul’s loss that his grief is total, his pain is total and his life is ”˜ruined,’ because he doesn’t have his pacifier. Of course we know that his life is not ruined, he will recover, but he doesn’t know this at that time because he doesn’t have the knowledge and experience to know he will come to acceptance of his loss and recover.
Pain is proportional
When we lose something that we care about, our pain is in proportion to how much something means to us. If we drop a penny, usually we will not be devastated. We know that we will still be able to buy lunch, pay the mortgage and go on with life. But if we drop the bank deposit for our business and lose it, it is another matter entirely. Now we may not be able to make payroll and things will get very bad, so our loss is bigger and we grieve over the problems this will cause, the bigger loss.
When we are devastated by the loss of a “great love,” or by the betrayal of someone we trusted, depended on and cared for, we have suffered a great and grievous loss that rocks our world. It isn’t anything we can put a dollar value on; it is an emotional attachment that has no price. How do you quantify “love?”
When we have lost something that is of utter value to us, whether it is something that we can quantify, or whether it has no monetary value, only value of the heart, the soul, then we must realize that our grief is total. We must not compare our losses to what someone else has lost and feel that their loss is “greater,” because it isn’t greater. The pain isn’t greater. It is all TOTAL LOSS. The pain is total.
So if you start to feel that your loss is nothing compared to someone else’s loss, Stop! Realize that your loss, your pain, is your loss and pain. No one else’s is more or less.
His reasoning?? Oh, her name/number was put under that contact by mistake. See….
And, I believed him!
Libragirl, it’s totally normal to be going through the history of lies. Once you accept what he is, and started the healing process one memory after the other starts popping up and suddenly you get it what it was all about. At the time you just waved it off as “weird”, but it’s like a light bulb once you’re NC and realize truly what he is. I had that all the time for months. I’d be driving, or talking to someone, or reading something and “pop” suddenly some memory was there and I thought “Oh so that was what it must have been about!” And actually those tiny little insights of occurrences empowered me. It made me feel that I was starting to figure him out, and gave me some feeling of control again over my own past. After a while I even started to find some of the stuff he said and tried actually funny, because it was soooo over the top. Once I started to laugh at him in my mind over some of the crazy stories and lies I was at the stage where I didn’t blame myself anymore for believing/waving it off at the time. You can’t laugh about things unless you’re starting to see it in perspective again.
In any case, Libragirl, it sounds to me that you’re in that pop-insight stage now. And it can only start once you fully accepted that he’s a spath. I can read you’re being more confident about your own perceptions regarding him. Those 2 months of NC have already done you a great deal of good, even though it was anguish and painful so far. But you’re on your healing way! Towanda for you!
Towanda!! Yes, Darwinsmom..the memories come in waves. And, I do accept him for the Spath that he is. What other diagnosis could even fit this kind of anti-human!
No one on the outside truly understands what a battle it is everyday to move forward and go through what I call a ‘hoarder’s mess’ of memories and hell on a daily basis. But, closure to me is figuring it all out. I’ve always been that kind of person. I don’t feel complete until the last piece of the puzzle is in place. And, his stuff was returned. He’s got a new fling. And, he’s nothing but a toxic mess of trouble. No more pieces to put together. I understand there are some things I just will never know. And, I am learning to accept that. Counseling has been inspiring. And, LOVEFRAUD group therapy with you guys has helped me the most. Actual peers with the exact same disordered partner! Socio’s appear to be ‘cookie cutter’. None too more original than the next. And, for the first time I am starting to feel anger. I think that’s a good thing!
I am tired of hearing family/friends say “ohh my Gosh, just get over him already”!. He’s just bad news. What could you possibly still see in him?? But, what they seem to forget is, I am not just grieving over him. I lost my independance. Moved back home like I’m 21. Lost lots of$$. And, slept next to a con artist and complete fake for over a year! It’s like having to rewrite history. Oh well, “The Psycho continues..” lol
Libragirl,
I’m so happy that you’ve come to this conclusion. Yes, you will go for YEARS remembering things and saying, “Aha!”.
It’s been 3 years and I still do it.
Part of it is because we are looking for the red flags we missed. We want to be able to know that we won’t get fooled again. We want to be able to say, “when I see X, that means Y”.
All the red flags, the X’s and the Y’s are important, so don’t feel bad about looking for them. There is one more thing to add though: yourself. No matter where you go there you are. So it’s important to look at yourself and how you were compelled to respond to his games. THAT is the key to not getting fooled again. Know when you’re being cheated and walk away. You can end the game by not playing it. It’s the only solution for dealing with spaths.
Yes, Skylar I am getting it now! I feel stronger today than yesterday, and hope the same for tomorrow. When I actually try to figure out all of the lies from beginning to end, it’s just too many! I still can not believe the ordasity of one individual to another much less the destruction. He was “Hurricane Ed”. I would have done much better just evacuating for that storm than sticking it out as long as I did. haha. But, we can not change the past. A recurring curiosity of mine now is ‘what lies is he telling her’? I don’t know who she is so I don’t know if she owns a home, has kids, money, etc. None of my business, I know. But, I sure am curious.
And, next time I will take things much slower and hopefully this will never happen again.
Libragirl,
We lose trust in OURSELVES to keep ourselves safe….I suggest that you get Donna’s book RED FLAGS of Lovefraud and read it, and reread it. Teach yourself what to look for…read the articles here and read her book. It will help you regain trust in YOURSELF.
Libragirl, the more NC have, the more your subconscious throws up the anomalties (?) of the ‘relationship’. There is alot of denial on our part, which allows us to just conveniently ‘forget’ past horrors and carry on. If the behaviour we experience was evident initially, we wouldn’t have gone near them, it can only come after the ’emotional commitment’ is in place. Then, the waters are tested, our ‘weakpoints’ are established, and the spath a**hole gets to work on our mental, physical, and soul destroyal.
Hmm. Gosh, i really hope you figure this all out, and keep yourself safe. Make no mistake, this person will do everything they can to destroy you. I imagine the next ex of my spath to turn up on my doorstep one night, crying and explaining that she totally understands what the spath did to me. I have imagined taking her in, giving her a beer, offering a shoulder to cry on, and then giving her unlimited access to my growing number of books on the ‘spath subject’.
I wouldn’t interfere though. We all have a lesson to learn. The messenger always gets shot. If you are to be of use, it will be later, not sooner. However, I think you are trying to stay involved in a ‘triangulated’ way perhaps? It’s all contact.
In terms of NC, your ex may not have done his worst on you. I got to where you are, and then it got sooooooooooooo much worse. Although the worse it gets the stronger you become in the end, jees, i really don’t think i would want anyone to go through that. I like to think we choose our life paths, that gives us responsibility and control, but i must have put my head in my hands when i read this script!
So, please, take care of yourself. Do things for you, get fit and healthy. Take up a hobby, do a course, have a fling yourself. But, do it all for you. xx
I have to agree to all of that! Sometimes I wonder whether mine was truly a spath, because he didnt seem to do things as bad as others on here, but then I read things like this and I realise he is exactly the same, and my feelings are exactly the same! I have gone nc ever since I left 6 months ago, and even though we share children and I do have to see him when I drop them off, and he gave me a letter of his undying love, I keep the contact very minimal and only at pick up & drop offs. But I do feel that that is what is keeping me going, I am not getting sucked back into his lies and I am starting to see clearer all the lies from the past, and just as Libragirl said I loved him too and would have done anything for him and given him anything, so who is the biggest fool???? Thanks for that Libragirl, it has made me feel better, for a long time I did feel like I was an idiot to not see his lies and behaviour, but he was the bigger idiot, eventually I will meet someone who appreciates me for who I am and I will appreciate them, but he will never experience that. xxxx
Missymooz, I’m so glad to read your strength and resolve! And, why not appreciate yourself, first, and nevermind if anyone else does? 😀
HUGS!!!
Missymooz,
I agree with Truthspeak. We must learn to love ourselves, to be content with our own self, the relationship with ourselves, and THEN if and when we meet someone else who is happy with themselves content with themselves and we can SHARE OUR HAPPINESS…we don’t have to have someone else to make us happy and content. One is enough.