By Joyce Alexander, RNP (retired)
One of the things I have heard from victims of psychopaths here at Lovefraud, seemingly over and over, is that people compare their losses to my losses and Donna’s losses and Dr. Liane Leedom’s losses, etc. and think that their losses don’t “count” because they haven’t lost X, Y, or Z and we did. They seem to think that because I lost a child, or Liane lost her medical practice, or Donna lost a quarter of a million dollars, that they are not entitled to feel as injured as we were/are.
The people expressing this somehow seem to have “survivor’s guilt” about feeling so devastated when their losses were somehow “less.” Or they feel that we are somehow “super heroes” because we survived “big losses.”
I felt that way too when I was reading Dr. Viktor Frankl’s book, Man’s Search for Meaning. Dr. Frankl wrote the book after his years in a German Nazi concentration camp, in which he lost everything except his life, and barely retained that.
Pain is like gas
I felt that my own losses didn’t compare to Dr. Frankl’s losses, and that somehow I should feel guilty for feeling such great pain and desperation. Then I read Dr. Frankl’s explanation of how pain operates like a gas.
In science, we learn that a gas, because it has atoms that are far apart, will expand until it completely fills an empty container. It will also compress easily so that a larger amount of the gas can be put into a small container. In any case, the container is full. It is totally filled.
I realized upon reading this that my pain was just as “total” as Dr. Frankl’s, and that my losses were just as “big” (or “small”) as his were. All pain and all loss is total. If something is important to us, we value it and when we lose it, we grieve for that loss. We feel pain, which is what grief is.
Grief process
The “grief process,” as Dr. Elizabeth Kubler-Ross explains it, is an emotional process where we come to grips with loss, and eventually come to acceptance of that loss.
Dr. Kubler-Ross’s grief process consists of denial, bargaining, sadness, anger and acceptance. These five stages of grief are not processed in a linear 1-2-3-4-5 formula, but in alternating steps, more like 1-3-4-2-3-4-1-2-4-5. Eventually we come to and stay in the last stage, which is acceptance of the loss.
A baby who drops his pacifier is totally in misery and pain. He cries from the depth of his soul’s loss that his grief is total, his pain is total and his life is ”˜ruined,’ because he doesn’t have his pacifier. Of course we know that his life is not ruined, he will recover, but he doesn’t know this at that time because he doesn’t have the knowledge and experience to know he will come to acceptance of his loss and recover.
Pain is proportional
When we lose something that we care about, our pain is in proportion to how much something means to us. If we drop a penny, usually we will not be devastated. We know that we will still be able to buy lunch, pay the mortgage and go on with life. But if we drop the bank deposit for our business and lose it, it is another matter entirely. Now we may not be able to make payroll and things will get very bad, so our loss is bigger and we grieve over the problems this will cause, the bigger loss.
When we are devastated by the loss of a “great love,” or by the betrayal of someone we trusted, depended on and cared for, we have suffered a great and grievous loss that rocks our world. It isn’t anything we can put a dollar value on; it is an emotional attachment that has no price. How do you quantify “love?”
When we have lost something that is of utter value to us, whether it is something that we can quantify, or whether it has no monetary value, only value of the heart, the soul, then we must realize that our grief is total. We must not compare our losses to what someone else has lost and feel that their loss is “greater,” because it isn’t greater. The pain isn’t greater. It is all TOTAL LOSS. The pain is total.
So if you start to feel that your loss is nothing compared to someone else’s loss, Stop! Realize that your loss, your pain, is your loss and pain. No one else’s is more or less.
Great article Joyce! Been away from this site, but kept trying to help my niece. Donna, Skylar & Annie are aware of my story. I am an aunt to a 6 year old niece (brother’s daughter). Sister in Law (SIL)has total control and refuses to allow the kid to be herself!!! Things are getting worse!
Now SIL is teaching my niece to lie to me, be mean to me, so she is doing it to fulfill her mother’s wishes. I still see glimpses of her normal self, but becoming more rare. I am not as excited to visit her, her spontaneous behavior is virtually non existent with my Mom and brother, now it is also becoming minimally existent with me. I visited her 2 weeks ago, I asked her to walk me to the door, she always has done this, she told me she is not allowed! In the past she would always ask me to stay a little longer, please don’t leave yet, etc. So I left telling her “it is ok to love me, miss me… I am your aunt, I am family.” I was sad, but not angry, I found out from my Mom that she later came running to the drive way and I had already driven off. She was visibly sad, and was quiet until SIL came home. SIL then took her in the room, and then came out after an hour enraged! She accused me of saying mean things about her to my niece, she complained to my brother. She stated that is why my niece was very sad, because I said things about her mother. Nothing could be further from the truth, my niece was sad because she missed me, she has been restricted from acting normal with me, and was disappointed I was gone. But SIL is so enraged and jealous, she made her kid lie, and made up a story! Everybody has a price, I will not put up with my own niece lying for her mother against me(I have really done a lot for her), so now I am considering going no contact with everyone in that household!!! I love my niece, but I cannot bear to see her transform into something she is not. She is a very innocent, compassionate, loving girl, but I see less and less of that now! I am not able to do much, hopefully someday she will break free from this, and remember all the good times she spent with me, and everything I have taught her. It is a HUGE loss for me!!!
Dear Caringaunt,
You may be better off to just “drift away” rather than say “I’m not talking to you all any more”—when or if they call and invite you, be nice, polite and “busy”—or as Skylar would say, “Gray Rock” just boring and no opinions about anything, and always too busy to be with them for a visit.
I understand how it hurts to see a sweet child manipulated and taught to lie…especially when there is NOTHING YOU CAN DO to change things.
Keep on learning and reading though, don’t quit that. Knowledge is power and we have to take back our power, but if you don’t give your SIL the power to hurt you, she can’t.
God bless and keep your niece in your prayers. (((hugs)))
Caringaunt,
you are powerless in this situation. Leave it to God.
The more you struggle with her the worse it will be for that child. She’s a pawn being used to manipulate your emotions. If you lose interest, the spath will too.
Oxy is right, just drift away –until the girl is 18.
Caringaunt,
I remember your story and how hard it is to watch what your SIL is doing to this sweet child.
Oxy & Sky are right, children are used as pawns to hurt you, most likely because she is jealous of the relationship you have with your niece.
As difficult as it is, sometimes it is in the child’s best interest to just back away so that she at least won’t be used in that way.
My daughter used her son as a pawn against me. She knew how important he was to me so she went as far as abusing him emotionally and physically just to hurt me. I ended up with custody of him and am now raising him. HOWEVER, she had another child, a girl, 8 years later. I refuse to have a relationship with that child, only because I know she would do the same thing with her. It is painful, but deep down I know I am doing what is right for the child. If I see signs of neglect or abuse, I will notify the authorities and let them handle it.
I am sorry you must go through this and I am especially sorry for your niece.
I think that seeing someone else abused by the psychopath, especially an innocent child or a helpless elderly person is so difficult, I think worse than being abused yourself.
I remember when I thought my poor egg donor was being abused (she was) by the psychopaths and probably drugged and I tried so hard to “rescue” her and no one would listen, my son C was part of it all, or at least sitting on the fence like you have said your brother is doing, and there is nothing legally you can do…so you are helpless watching it unfurl.
Sky’s technique of “gray rock” just drifting away, being uninteresting, no longer a challenge, no longer fun for them to poke sticks at your emotions…hopefully she will lighten up on the girl. Just keep praying for her.
Pain is all I feel at the moment.
I’ve tried very hard to get more sleep.
Last night I got 4 hours, which is a bonus.
But the pain remains.
I was left without a word.
Everyone says its a “lucky escape”
since I was threatened with a restraining order.
I feel wronged and cheated.
This site is helping me a lot but unfortunately
the pain I feel may be with me for years, if not
decades.
I just feel rotten to the core.
Its like someone has invaded my life, stolen
my heart, my posessions and my good will.
And no matter how kind I was to her,
all I got in return was –
(1) THEFT
(2) REJECTION
(3) SPITE
(4) SCORN
(5) CHEATING
(6) DECEPTION
(7) ARROGANCE
(8) RUDENESS
(9) LEGAL ABUSE
(10) CHARACTER ASSASSINATION
Sebbo: lists are good. Remember it. I know what that pain feels like but you have to temper it with your head and your common sense lest it devour you. Trust me, I know.
Take a deep breath and tell yourself:
“I am free from the clutches of drama, chaos and confusion. MY LIFE can be whatever I want and choose for myself.”
I have been there, where you are at right now and I understand the pain and how it feels but it isn’t worth feeling and letting it ruin anything inside you. Look at it from a different perspective. It WAS a ‘lucky escape’…
Just like mine was. I escaped with my very life, against all odds. Imagine waking up one day and realizing that the person you were trying to ‘love’ was actually jealous of you and trying to harm you every chance they could….imagine that kind of betrayal…
Hold your head up and remember who you are and your value and worth as the person you are.
What has happened to us will stay with us forever. It will reshape and mold us into the stronger and more dynamic and aware people we will become on the other side of this ‘ring of fire’, Sebbo….hang in there and hear my words.
Dupey
Dupey,
Sebbo it seems will be stuck in this nightmare for many years to come, just as I have been myself.
Its a terrible situation when somebody has shafted another so severely.
Sebbo I hope you get well soon.
Try drinking a cup of tea and look out the window.
Think about absolutely nothing but your breathing.
Look at a photo of her, then light a match stick, burn
the photo and flush it down the toilet.
Best regards
Tony
Sebbo,
You obviously are not getting enough sunlight or exercise. Get out in the sun in the mornng for at least 20 minutes and then walk, skip, run or jump or something until you are physically tired.
You’ll sleep better. And that will help.
So will eating breakfast even if you have to make yourself.
Take care of your body and the turmoil in your mind will ease a bit.
It does take time. We all know that.
And we know that you have to process the betrayal and all that has happened.
This anthem helped me a lot: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GaYqfI_tCkM&feature=related
One day, you’ll be a resource for others who are just learning what you have. Read, learn, process and give. It helps.
Tony, fabulous ritual! I’d make a stack of copies and burn one a day for at least 60 days while burning incense and singing “I shall be released” if I had it all to do again. Fabulous!
We’ll be right here.
Take care of you.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z7klkXgkVdg&feature=related
Silvermoon
The pain of her memory is something that I feel a fool for accepting. My greatest concern now is thinking about her with another man. I know it is jealousy, but I just feel the hurt that much more when I realize she is with another man right now, sharing intimate moments and probably luring in another poor sucker in to her web of lies and deceit.