I have heard a lot of people give advice about how the best way to get rid of a psychopath is to show him/her a “grey rock” of emotions. While I understand that this means that I cannot let the psychopath see any emotion beyond that of an emotionless grey rock, putting this theory into practice has proved to be one of the hardest things to do. I still believe I will have my moments, but it took an extreme situation for me to tap into what I needed to understand in order to achieve my own version of “grey rock”.
The “Extreme Situation”:
Baby boy had another rough 72 hours which landed him two more hospital visits. We started out in the hospital a few days ago after he spiked another fever, had another seizure, and this time turned blue in the process.
There has been nothing in my life more terrifying than seeing my son not able to breath and appear as if he is dying. I had to simply hold him and wait for an ambulance as there was nothing medically I could do to help him. While I felt like panicking along with my poor little boy (and I initially did), that moment allowed me to dig deep and become the rock that my son needed. I found the strength to calmly give the paramedics information and speak to the doctors in actual sentences that appeared to make sense. I didn’t realize how strong I had become during this year of “Luc terror” until the doctor applauded me for being able to remain so calm during such a terrible experience. I thought to myself, ”˜this woman doesn’t know what Mama has been through’.
Practicing “Grey Rock”:
Luc was supposed to have a visit the day after this medical emergency began; however, given the state baby boy was in it was only reasonable to cancel the visit. There was no way I was putting a child who had a fever of 105 in a car with Luc (whom he still barely knows) to drive three hours round trip just so that Luc could play dad for the day. While Luc was busy throwing a fit with the supervisor via text message (requesting proof that baby boy was actually sick and insisting on a makeup visit), it occurred to me that I may have finally gotten to a point where I realize the insignificance of Luc.
This weekend I think I finally achieved “grey rock” with Luc. When the supervisor texted me for reports and told me, “don’t be surprised if he insists on a makeup visit”, I simply said, “my number one concern is baby boy and NOT Luc’s visitation schedule. You can tell him that I will provide him with the necessary documentation of baby boy’s medical situation to document my reasons for canceling the visit.” I wasn’t upset about his antics because there was no point. I had more important things to be concerned with other than how Luc was feeling and his threats.
Lawyers: A Necessary Evil (and an occasional reality check)
On the morning after baby boy’s hospital visit, I had the first civil conversation I have had with my attorneys in months. I called them about a conversation that I had with the supervisor the day before. The supervisor was insisting that I send the emergency plan I had created (in the event my son has another medical emergency while with Luc) to Luc’s attorneys. My attorney had been resisting any sort of communication with Luc’s attorney and insisting the supervisor be the one to pass the paperwork. While Luc insisted that he still obtained legal representation, my lawyers weren’t buying it.
After several days of this ridiculous back and forth, I finally got a straight answer out of my attorney. He said, “whatever comes out of Luc’s mouth…consider it just words. I don’t believe his ‘old’ attorney wants anything because if she does, she knows my number and can call me for it. Luc is full of crap.” He doesn’t believe Luc has an attorney anymore (attorneys tend to stop representing you when you won’t pay them). While my attorney still assured me that they had my back (which I had started to question), they told me to do my best to ignore Luc’s idle threats and just move forward with my life.
It has been a roller coaster of emotions with my legal team as sometimes I wonder whether or not they are more concerned about their reputation and bank account than doing what is right. That being said, the attorney I spoke with re the above conversation helped me to further put things in perspective. He helped me to realize that I was putting way to much stress and weight on the words coming out of Luc’s mouth. I had been allowing Luc to get the best of me when, really, he is insignificant. I am not sure what keeps making me think that Luc is capable of telling the truth, but my lawyers were right – Luc isn’t going to start being honest now.
Finding My Definition of “Grey Rock”:
Even during a very stressful weekend dealing with a sick child, Luc was trying to terrorize me via our court ordered third party (the supervised exchanged professional). My attorney served an important purpose in reminding me that I am baby boys legal custodian and that no matter how much Luc tries to throw a toddler- style fit about that, he can’t force the court to see him as the healthy and fit parent. He cannot change the fact that I will always be “mama” to my baby boy.
This weekend was terrible. I was awake for about three days straight watching baby boy sleep, constantly taking his temperature, and administering medication in order to try and prevent another Febrile seizure. During the hours spent awake watching baby boy, I had a lot of time to think about our little “family situation”. One of the conclusions that I came to is how much I am able to control my sons environment. I will be the parent he turns to when he is sick and needs protection. He will be able to rely on me through the good times and the bad ones. Nobody will ever be able to take away the bond me and my son have with each other.
It was through both the turmoil and the reality check from my attorneys that I came to my two part definition of what “Grey Rock” means to me:
- Emotionless Grey Rock: This refers to the act of giving the psychopath no emotions to feed off of. This is like torture to a psychopath. They hate it when they don’t feel relevant and they will be tortured when they realize they can no longer create chaos in their life of their victim. No matter how much of a fit I might be throwing inside, I need to channel this emotionless grey rock when it comes to Luc (and by proxy the drama fueler supervisor for the exchanges).
- The Mama Grey Rock of Strength: This refers to a mother’s ability to be the rock of reason, stability, and love for her child. I cannot help that my son’s father is disordered – that he is a psychopath. I can, however, be the strong supportive rock that my son needs. I will not allow Luc to take that from me with his attempts to drive me insane.
Just Another Disordered Encounter – “Insignificance of the Psychopath”:
Finally, baby boy will likely encounter many people during his life who are disordered. His father, unfortunately, will be one of them. This weekend I was able to see our custody situation for what it is. Baby boy’s father is a visitor. There will be times when baby boy is sick and when these visits will not occur. Luc will continue to throw fits and threaten to take me back to court. He will continue doing anything his evil (and feeble) mind can think of to terrorize me and attempt to exert control over both me and baby boy.
Despite having had several moments over the past year when I have wondered if I am going crazy (because of Luc’s reign of terror), I consider myself relatively psychologically healthy. During my life, Luc hasn’t been the first person on the spectrum of Psychopathy (though possibly the only full blown psychopath) that I have run into. Now that I understand more about the disorder, I can identify many people from previous bosses, ex- boyfriends, and even family members who have many characteristics on the psychopathy spectrum. I would love to be able to shelter baby boy from these people and all of their negative influences, but I realize that is not our reality. The best I can do is to not allow the terror to negatively impact my relationship with my son.
Living with Luc was like living in hell. I thank God every day that I was able to leave that man before he killed me. I am also thankful that my son will never have to see me put up with abuse at the hands of Luc. He may not understand why I left his father for some time, however, when he does understand my guess is that he will respect me more for making the decision to leave. I also have hope that he will see me as his “Mama Grey Rock of Strength” who protected him, loved him, and helped him become an emotionally healthy man.
Sky, said “Rule number one: Know your spath!”
EXACTLY! I know ex-spath would use minions to do the dirty job. If I’d ever set foot in his birthdown (tourist surf town), he’ll have people out there watching for my appearance who would supposedly rob me with assault and stick a knife between my ribs “by accident”. It wouldn’t matter whether he’s in town or at the other side of the world. He knows the people to do it for him. He won’t risk it himself though.
I don’t really fear him ever standing at my door (though I do have safety precautions, and I moved to another address he doesn’t know), because he does know I’d call the cops on him if he ever does. But he might try to contact me at some point. If he does, it’ll be some favour he’d want me to do for him… Not money, but something regarding legitimacy.
My opinion about Lov10’s Pspath and the darned jacket is it is NOT ABOUT THE JACKET…it is about ANY excuse for contact. If she gives him the jacket it will be some other excuse.
Tea light- thank you for your advice. I went to my doctor actually last week and ran every test imaginable and my blood work came back fine thank God. Who the heck knows what he would even say to me-he has nothing it’s all a con. I’m not giving him the time of day.
Skylar and OxDrover- I agree with you both. He is all about control. A restraining order for him would be like adding gasoline to a blazing fire. More of a thrill for him to try and contact me. He has no shame or respect for boundaries. The only way I think for now is NC. It’s amazing to watch their thought process how they go from nasty… Apologetic…now attempting to seek compassionate and caring- and of course now by me not hearing him out I’m ” disrespecting him” Pure insanity. He can stay on the roller coaster. I got off.
lov10, great that your test results were all clear, that must be a relief. This man’s behaviour is highly controlling and manipulative, stay safe and strong.
Lov10, ATTA GIRL!!!! “No Contact” means every way imaginable, and it certainly isn’t about any “property” that he keeps hounding you. You recognize this, and you recognize that you have the power to shut it all down.
If the spath will find circumventing a RO an irrestistable challenge, then it could be adding fuel to a fire. Then, again, if he begins showing up at work more often, or you see his vehicle in your rearview mirror, or it becomes escalated and more alarming, you’ll have to make a decision based upon what you know about him.
There are a number of LF readers that have experienced extreme stalking and can list some techniques to remain safe WITHOUT dissolving into that cesspool of anxiety and fear.
Brightest blessings
Hi everyone! i havent posted in a while. been reading though. I cant adequately convey how happy it makes me to see all of you above discussing the mirroring and to see that you seem to be leading into a VERY important step in your recovery.
As some of you might remember, i did not directly experience the spath. my wife did. and the reasons that i know what i know are because i found it necessary to find out what the hell happened to the woman i thought i knew. i wish i could say that i had spent so many countless hours studying spaths was because i had an interest in human disorders, or that i wanted to become a therapist and help people but my reasons were more selfish and certainly quite desperate.
she ran into an old high school” friend” and for about a year and a half, unbeknownst to me, he effectively “took” her from me.
by the way, she and i are making real progress. i know this because though she just wanted to “forget” and let it go, i have on a regular basis witnessed her conscience and soul seek healing in numerous ways. much as she would like to pretend it away, something inside wont seem to let her. she seems to seek understanding.
in some other post in the past, i suggested to the folks here that “it was you”. well in all honesty it was more like i was “telling you” and if you go back and find the comments from me, you will no doubt get the inkling as i did that no one at the time really quite “got it”. what i recognized at the time was that my wife saw qualities in this person that did not exist. practically no one else sees them. i mean, right down to his looks. people see his picture and go eewww! really!
so in the process of agonizing about how this could happen to her i discovered through studying Narcissism, sociopathy, pschycopathy, histrionism, and the things she said about this person along the way i came to recognize and piece together how my wife craved acceptance and saw it reflected back at her in the emotional image she was being shown. i also saw as she began to accept that this person was really no-one, how painfull it was to have that image stripped away. i knew she would get it someday (well i hoped) .
so, Lov10, and all the rest of you beautiful folks here. keep moving in on that one. i am far from knowing it all but i think you all are on to something here.
might all the intensity, passion, and every thrill you felt with this total sham of a human being really have been about the perception of complete and utter acceptance?
My inkling is that when we are freed from our self doubt, we allow ourselves to feel on a level that is quite uncommon. yes, i think it was YOU. You were the amazing one. it was your amazing image that freed you to feel in ways that you might not have otherwise.
i hope we all come to know that our love buckets can only be filled half way by someone else. the other half we must fill with US.
You are all smazing!
sincerely,
RGC
Rgc, welcome back and it’s good to “see” you.
Glad to read that you and your wife are on the mend and sorting it all out.
Brightest blessings
H truthy! thanks for asking me some pointed questions months ago and helping me find my inner child. i had a really good childhood but there were a few hurts there. it was scary to go there but it was worth it. dont know if you meant for that to happen, but it did. i peeled the onion.
you also taught me that i cant fix people. and its ok that i cant.
rgc
Gotta go pick up my grandson. then i’m gonna let him wake up granny!
Rgc, any time that I have ever mentioned doing “inner child” work, I have always tried to provide a clear warning that this work is painful – very painful. It’s hard, it’s grueling, and it can result in some very serious grieving. There’s nothing warm-and-fuzzy about “inner child” work. And, no – the painful work isn’t “meant” to be painful. It just is. Healing is painful.
Glad you’re sorting it out.
Brightest blessings