I have heard a lot of people give advice about how the best way to get rid of a psychopath is to show him/her a “grey rock” of emotions. While I understand that this means that I cannot let the psychopath see any emotion beyond that of an emotionless grey rock, putting this theory into practice has proved to be one of the hardest things to do. I still believe I will have my moments, but it took an extreme situation for me to tap into what I needed to understand in order to achieve my own version of “grey rock”.
The “Extreme Situation”:
Baby boy had another rough 72 hours which landed him two more hospital visits. We started out in the hospital a few days ago after he spiked another fever, had another seizure, and this time turned blue in the process.
There has been nothing in my life more terrifying than seeing my son not able to breath and appear as if he is dying. I had to simply hold him and wait for an ambulance as there was nothing medically I could do to help him. While I felt like panicking along with my poor little boy (and I initially did), that moment allowed me to dig deep and become the rock that my son needed. I found the strength to calmly give the paramedics information and speak to the doctors in actual sentences that appeared to make sense. I didn’t realize how strong I had become during this year of “Luc terror” until the doctor applauded me for being able to remain so calm during such a terrible experience. I thought to myself, ”˜this woman doesn’t know what Mama has been through’.
Practicing “Grey Rock”:
Luc was supposed to have a visit the day after this medical emergency began; however, given the state baby boy was in it was only reasonable to cancel the visit. There was no way I was putting a child who had a fever of 105 in a car with Luc (whom he still barely knows) to drive three hours round trip just so that Luc could play dad for the day. While Luc was busy throwing a fit with the supervisor via text message (requesting proof that baby boy was actually sick and insisting on a makeup visit), it occurred to me that I may have finally gotten to a point where I realize the insignificance of Luc.
This weekend I think I finally achieved “grey rock” with Luc. When the supervisor texted me for reports and told me, “don’t be surprised if he insists on a makeup visit”, I simply said, “my number one concern is baby boy and NOT Luc’s visitation schedule. You can tell him that I will provide him with the necessary documentation of baby boy’s medical situation to document my reasons for canceling the visit.” I wasn’t upset about his antics because there was no point. I had more important things to be concerned with other than how Luc was feeling and his threats.
Lawyers: A Necessary Evil (and an occasional reality check)
On the morning after baby boy’s hospital visit, I had the first civil conversation I have had with my attorneys in months. I called them about a conversation that I had with the supervisor the day before. The supervisor was insisting that I send the emergency plan I had created (in the event my son has another medical emergency while with Luc) to Luc’s attorneys. My attorney had been resisting any sort of communication with Luc’s attorney and insisting the supervisor be the one to pass the paperwork. While Luc insisted that he still obtained legal representation, my lawyers weren’t buying it.
After several days of this ridiculous back and forth, I finally got a straight answer out of my attorney. He said, “whatever comes out of Luc’s mouth…consider it just words. I don’t believe his ‘old’ attorney wants anything because if she does, she knows my number and can call me for it. Luc is full of crap.” He doesn’t believe Luc has an attorney anymore (attorneys tend to stop representing you when you won’t pay them). While my attorney still assured me that they had my back (which I had started to question), they told me to do my best to ignore Luc’s idle threats and just move forward with my life.
It has been a roller coaster of emotions with my legal team as sometimes I wonder whether or not they are more concerned about their reputation and bank account than doing what is right. That being said, the attorney I spoke with re the above conversation helped me to further put things in perspective. He helped me to realize that I was putting way to much stress and weight on the words coming out of Luc’s mouth. I had been allowing Luc to get the best of me when, really, he is insignificant. I am not sure what keeps making me think that Luc is capable of telling the truth, but my lawyers were right – Luc isn’t going to start being honest now.
Finding My Definition of “Grey Rock”:
Even during a very stressful weekend dealing with a sick child, Luc was trying to terrorize me via our court ordered third party (the supervised exchanged professional). My attorney served an important purpose in reminding me that I am baby boys legal custodian and that no matter how much Luc tries to throw a toddler- style fit about that, he can’t force the court to see him as the healthy and fit parent. He cannot change the fact that I will always be “mama” to my baby boy.
This weekend was terrible. I was awake for about three days straight watching baby boy sleep, constantly taking his temperature, and administering medication in order to try and prevent another Febrile seizure. During the hours spent awake watching baby boy, I had a lot of time to think about our little “family situation”. One of the conclusions that I came to is how much I am able to control my sons environment. I will be the parent he turns to when he is sick and needs protection. He will be able to rely on me through the good times and the bad ones. Nobody will ever be able to take away the bond me and my son have with each other.
It was through both the turmoil and the reality check from my attorneys that I came to my two part definition of what “Grey Rock” means to me:
- Emotionless Grey Rock: This refers to the act of giving the psychopath no emotions to feed off of. This is like torture to a psychopath. They hate it when they don’t feel relevant and they will be tortured when they realize they can no longer create chaos in their life of their victim. No matter how much of a fit I might be throwing inside, I need to channel this emotionless grey rock when it comes to Luc (and by proxy the drama fueler supervisor for the exchanges).
- The Mama Grey Rock of Strength: This refers to a mother’s ability to be the rock of reason, stability, and love for her child. I cannot help that my son’s father is disordered – that he is a psychopath. I can, however, be the strong supportive rock that my son needs. I will not allow Luc to take that from me with his attempts to drive me insane.
Just Another Disordered Encounter – “Insignificance of the Psychopath”:
Finally, baby boy will likely encounter many people during his life who are disordered. His father, unfortunately, will be one of them. This weekend I was able to see our custody situation for what it is. Baby boy’s father is a visitor. There will be times when baby boy is sick and when these visits will not occur. Luc will continue to throw fits and threaten to take me back to court. He will continue doing anything his evil (and feeble) mind can think of to terrorize me and attempt to exert control over both me and baby boy.
Despite having had several moments over the past year when I have wondered if I am going crazy (because of Luc’s reign of terror), I consider myself relatively psychologically healthy. During my life, Luc hasn’t been the first person on the spectrum of Psychopathy (though possibly the only full blown psychopath) that I have run into. Now that I understand more about the disorder, I can identify many people from previous bosses, ex- boyfriends, and even family members who have many characteristics on the psychopathy spectrum. I would love to be able to shelter baby boy from these people and all of their negative influences, but I realize that is not our reality. The best I can do is to not allow the terror to negatively impact my relationship with my son.
Living with Luc was like living in hell. I thank God every day that I was able to leave that man before he killed me. I am also thankful that my son will never have to see me put up with abuse at the hands of Luc. He may not understand why I left his father for some time, however, when he does understand my guess is that he will respect me more for making the decision to leave. I also have hope that he will see me as his “Mama Grey Rock of Strength” who protected him, loved him, and helped him become an emotionally healthy man.
RCG, I’m glad that YOU are making some progress in understanding that your WIFE is the one who must do her own healing. While your understanding of what she experienced and WHY she allowed this man to lure her into infidelity may be helpful to YOU, she is still the one who must fix, herself.
The two of you must repair your marriage and re-establish trust and learn to give each other what you need in the way of support, comfort and love for the union to be more than a roommate with sexual privileges (or not, as the case may be) situation. And it takes TWO people working on that to accomplish.
I really do hope that the two of you will go to counseling, and if she refuses to go, that you will go by yourself.
She cannot pretend away what happened, and I don’t think YOU can pretend away what happened either or you wouldn’t be here. As painful as it , it has to be faced and “peeling the onion” is a long, hard and difficult process with MANY MANY LAYERS not just one. But she must peel her own ONION and if she refuses, all the onion peeling in the world on your part isn’t going to fix a relationship that one party refuses to work on. GOOD LUCK.
Hi everyone.. I just received another email from my ex and felt like I needed to vent somewhere. Its crazy to me how he can see nothing wrong with his actions and words regarding me. No remorse for his behavior. This email stated that the way I acted when he came to my job was totally I appropriate that I should act like a lady ( for real?) I’m the classiest most polite girl I know. How he’s not taking anymore of my abuse and disrespect it’s not fair. He said he’s not psychotic because then what does that say of me to have dated someone who is? I told him when he came to my job that if he contacted me again I would go to the police. He writes to me .. You call me a manipulator and that you’d go to the police how dare you! Ill call Medicare fraud department and have your license revoked. I’m a speech pathologist and just received my masters. God knows the lies he would make up there. THEN- he continues to say how he misses our love how he misses me. Wtf one minute he’s threatening me the next missing me. It burns me and kills me that he’s writing as if I’m
The one whose hurt and wronged him! I abused him! This guy lives in another reality. He still says he has important information to tell me please see me. I would never meet up with him. I think he just wants to see what he could say to get a reaction out of me. How does he not see that I was normal all along I treated him with respect and he was the one who disrespected me! It’s literally blowing my mind. I’m not answering his emails go to a filter in my gmail under trash but I can still see them. I think he knows I’m the closest thing to a normal family he would ever have and can’t let me go. When I do enter a new relationship, is he going to go absolutely insane and try to ruin me? How am I supposed to live not knowing what this psychotic lunatic will do next? I pray to God that the more I don’t answer he’ll give up. How do I act if I ever see him which I’m sure the day is coming.
truthy, im really lucky in that my inner child has (so far) revealed some minor issues. but even so they really hurt. it was scary. still is a little.
probably not over yet either. getting to know what i have makes me want to do more. i feel more balance and confidence.
i revisit issues from time to time.
rgc
oxy, some of the layers were easy, logical. but as i got to the center, ouch!
seems there are layers that have layers too.
rgc
Lov10,
Psychopaths always try to destroy what we value. In your case, he DOES perceive that being classy and polite, is important to you. So he accuses you of being the opposite. He knew that it would get to you.
This proves that he actually does see the truth and everything he is accusing you of is a 180° lie. That’s what spaths do, they try to trade places with you. He wants to be you and for you to become him.
You said that you are the closest thing to normal he could ever have and he can’t let go. That’s not exactly true. You are the closest thing to normal who would ever come near him and he wants to destroy you. Unfortunately for him, you caught on and dumped his ass. He didn’t expect that.
Well, since he has threatened your good name and livelihood, I think he’s made his bed. It’s time for you to go to the police for that RO. Yep. Make sure you have a copy of that email and every other communication he’s left you. So if he ever does accuse you, you can prove that his allegations are false.
Many times, with the police, whoever makes the first contact is the one they believe. If they ask why you won’t listen to his “important information” or why you won’t give him his jacket, explain to them that any response to a psychopath only feeds him.
If and when you ever make contact with him, the only thing to do is to show no emotion. Act bored. No anger, no sorrow, nothing. Practice if you have to. He wants emotions from you, show him that you don’t have any.
Love10
DO NOT respond to any more e mails, not even to tell him off. Just do what you said and go to the police and give them copies of the threatening e mails and file a report.
ANY response even a “go to hell” is a + for them because it proves you NOTICED THEM and ATTENTION of ANY kind iis what they want, need crave. GIVE HIM NO NOTICE and eventually he will quit, but as long as you give him a response EVER he will continue and not stop.
Here is an article I wrote about JUST THIS THING
http://www.lovefraud.com/blog/2013/02/01/psychopaths-pushing-our-buttons/
Lov10, very sorry to hear this has happened, do stay calm. Don’t waste your energy trying to rationalise this man’s behaviour and words. He is not rational, therefore he may be a danger to you. He has threatened to attempt to damage you professionally. He is not allowed to behave that way, no matter how unhappy he may be that you have ended your relationship. Please take the email to the police and protect yourself with a restraining order. Do not reply. Do not respond directly. Tell your colleagues friends and family what is happening. Please take care and go to the police. x
Skylar if I go ahead with a restraining order won’t he flip out and then make attempts to exploit me? I’m afraid of his reaction to it. But then again what if he does it regardless and I haven’t gone to the police. How could someone be this obsessed with another person. Trying to tell me he has himself and a business to take care of so I’m wasting his time by not just meeting with I’m being immature. Seriously?!? So you saying he knows then truth do you think he knows he’s lieing when he makes these accusations to me. He does want to be me it’s sick.
OxDrover thank you I’m going to read your article now.
Lov10,
Psychotic and Psychopathic are not the same. A psychotic believes what he claims, a psychopath lies and projects – knowing the thruth full well – with the intent to hurt another.
The fact that he accuses you exactly of the opposite of who and what you are reveals it’s a psychopath’s projection tactic. The ex-spath at times accused me of being selfish, while I helped him with more than I had, after I bailed him out of a night in the cell, after I paid for his expenses to travel with me. But I was selfish because I thought a seat was not taken in the little shared cab-van.
He accuses you because he knows it will make you angry. He’s turning and switching from accusing, guilt-tripping, begging, adoration claims all within one go. When someone does that, they do it to get an emotional response from you. It’s a trap to make you respond and argue and make you defend yourself. He knows very well he’s accusing you of being someone you would hate to be. He’s trying to guilt trip you, manipulate you. He feels entitled to your attention, and you are “selfish” in his eyes for not giving him what he feels entitled to. He thinks you’re his toy to use, abuse, destroy and throw away. Toys aren’t supposed to get up and walk away by themselves. STAY STRONG!!! STAY SILENT!!! COME HERE TO BLOW OFF STEAM 🙂
I would agree you now have evidence to go to the police with for a RO. He will step up his game, and you want to have it legally documented.
Love10,
It is BECAUSE he is unpredictable at this point that you should go to the police. Spaths lie all the time, so his saying he will slander you, is probably just a threat. I think you are actually in more danger from him physically — another reason to go to the police.
I think the reason that he became obsessed by you was exactly because you ARE a classy person. If there is one thing that the shame-filled spath cannot stand, it’s someone with class and confidence. You gave him the time of day and it was a mistake. Never give these sickos ANY attention.