I have heard a lot of people give advice about how the best way to get rid of a psychopath is to show him/her a “grey rock” of emotions. While I understand that this means that I cannot let the psychopath see any emotion beyond that of an emotionless grey rock, putting this theory into practice has proved to be one of the hardest things to do. I still believe I will have my moments, but it took an extreme situation for me to tap into what I needed to understand in order to achieve my own version of “grey rock”.
The “Extreme Situation”:
Baby boy had another rough 72 hours which landed him two more hospital visits. We started out in the hospital a few days ago after he spiked another fever, had another seizure, and this time turned blue in the process.
There has been nothing in my life more terrifying than seeing my son not able to breath and appear as if he is dying. I had to simply hold him and wait for an ambulance as there was nothing medically I could do to help him. While I felt like panicking along with my poor little boy (and I initially did), that moment allowed me to dig deep and become the rock that my son needed. I found the strength to calmly give the paramedics information and speak to the doctors in actual sentences that appeared to make sense. I didn’t realize how strong I had become during this year of “Luc terror” until the doctor applauded me for being able to remain so calm during such a terrible experience. I thought to myself, ”˜this woman doesn’t know what Mama has been through’.
Practicing “Grey Rock”:
Luc was supposed to have a visit the day after this medical emergency began; however, given the state baby boy was in it was only reasonable to cancel the visit. There was no way I was putting a child who had a fever of 105 in a car with Luc (whom he still barely knows) to drive three hours round trip just so that Luc could play dad for the day. While Luc was busy throwing a fit with the supervisor via text message (requesting proof that baby boy was actually sick and insisting on a makeup visit), it occurred to me that I may have finally gotten to a point where I realize the insignificance of Luc.
This weekend I think I finally achieved “grey rock” with Luc. When the supervisor texted me for reports and told me, “don’t be surprised if he insists on a makeup visit”, I simply said, “my number one concern is baby boy and NOT Luc’s visitation schedule. You can tell him that I will provide him with the necessary documentation of baby boy’s medical situation to document my reasons for canceling the visit.” I wasn’t upset about his antics because there was no point. I had more important things to be concerned with other than how Luc was feeling and his threats.
Lawyers: A Necessary Evil (and an occasional reality check)
On the morning after baby boy’s hospital visit, I had the first civil conversation I have had with my attorneys in months. I called them about a conversation that I had with the supervisor the day before. The supervisor was insisting that I send the emergency plan I had created (in the event my son has another medical emergency while with Luc) to Luc’s attorneys. My attorney had been resisting any sort of communication with Luc’s attorney and insisting the supervisor be the one to pass the paperwork. While Luc insisted that he still obtained legal representation, my lawyers weren’t buying it.
After several days of this ridiculous back and forth, I finally got a straight answer out of my attorney. He said, “whatever comes out of Luc’s mouth…consider it just words. I don’t believe his ‘old’ attorney wants anything because if she does, she knows my number and can call me for it. Luc is full of crap.” He doesn’t believe Luc has an attorney anymore (attorneys tend to stop representing you when you won’t pay them). While my attorney still assured me that they had my back (which I had started to question), they told me to do my best to ignore Luc’s idle threats and just move forward with my life.
It has been a roller coaster of emotions with my legal team as sometimes I wonder whether or not they are more concerned about their reputation and bank account than doing what is right. That being said, the attorney I spoke with re the above conversation helped me to further put things in perspective. He helped me to realize that I was putting way to much stress and weight on the words coming out of Luc’s mouth. I had been allowing Luc to get the best of me when, really, he is insignificant. I am not sure what keeps making me think that Luc is capable of telling the truth, but my lawyers were right – Luc isn’t going to start being honest now.
Finding My Definition of “Grey Rock”:
Even during a very stressful weekend dealing with a sick child, Luc was trying to terrorize me via our court ordered third party (the supervised exchanged professional). My attorney served an important purpose in reminding me that I am baby boys legal custodian and that no matter how much Luc tries to throw a toddler- style fit about that, he can’t force the court to see him as the healthy and fit parent. He cannot change the fact that I will always be “mama” to my baby boy.
This weekend was terrible. I was awake for about three days straight watching baby boy sleep, constantly taking his temperature, and administering medication in order to try and prevent another Febrile seizure. During the hours spent awake watching baby boy, I had a lot of time to think about our little “family situation”. One of the conclusions that I came to is how much I am able to control my sons environment. I will be the parent he turns to when he is sick and needs protection. He will be able to rely on me through the good times and the bad ones. Nobody will ever be able to take away the bond me and my son have with each other.
It was through both the turmoil and the reality check from my attorneys that I came to my two part definition of what “Grey Rock” means to me:
- Emotionless Grey Rock: This refers to the act of giving the psychopath no emotions to feed off of. This is like torture to a psychopath. They hate it when they don’t feel relevant and they will be tortured when they realize they can no longer create chaos in their life of their victim. No matter how much of a fit I might be throwing inside, I need to channel this emotionless grey rock when it comes to Luc (and by proxy the drama fueler supervisor for the exchanges).
- The Mama Grey Rock of Strength: This refers to a mother’s ability to be the rock of reason, stability, and love for her child. I cannot help that my son’s father is disordered – that he is a psychopath. I can, however, be the strong supportive rock that my son needs. I will not allow Luc to take that from me with his attempts to drive me insane.
Just Another Disordered Encounter – “Insignificance of the Psychopath”:
Finally, baby boy will likely encounter many people during his life who are disordered. His father, unfortunately, will be one of them. This weekend I was able to see our custody situation for what it is. Baby boy’s father is a visitor. There will be times when baby boy is sick and when these visits will not occur. Luc will continue to throw fits and threaten to take me back to court. He will continue doing anything his evil (and feeble) mind can think of to terrorize me and attempt to exert control over both me and baby boy.
Despite having had several moments over the past year when I have wondered if I am going crazy (because of Luc’s reign of terror), I consider myself relatively psychologically healthy. During my life, Luc hasn’t been the first person on the spectrum of Psychopathy (though possibly the only full blown psychopath) that I have run into. Now that I understand more about the disorder, I can identify many people from previous bosses, ex- boyfriends, and even family members who have many characteristics on the psychopathy spectrum. I would love to be able to shelter baby boy from these people and all of their negative influences, but I realize that is not our reality. The best I can do is to not allow the terror to negatively impact my relationship with my son.
Living with Luc was like living in hell. I thank God every day that I was able to leave that man before he killed me. I am also thankful that my son will never have to see me put up with abuse at the hands of Luc. He may not understand why I left his father for some time, however, when he does understand my guess is that he will respect me more for making the decision to leave. I also have hope that he will see me as his “Mama Grey Rock of Strength” who protected him, loved him, and helped him become an emotionally healthy man.
lov10,
never ever ever respond to anything they ask for.
In other words, the only correct response is no response.
He gave you the jacket, it is now yours. If you give it back, you are showing an emotional response. The jacket is just a jacket, it should mean nothing more than the utilitarian value of keeping you warm. Although it might have more sentimental meaning than that for you, you must never show that to him.
Your spath’s words are eerily reminiscent of my own spath’s words. bizarre. The rage that they show about how EVIL you were to them, is just a show. Ignore him completely. No response or, if you can’t avoid him, give him a gray rock response. NO EMOTION, NO REACTION to what he says or does.
Lov10, um………..who cares what he wants, really? I mean, really. Sometimes, spaths deliberately leave their belongings behind because it gives them a terrific excuse to contact their former targets.
Out of curiosity, are there children in common with this man so that you must leave an open line of communication with him via texting? If you do not have a child or children in common, I would strongly urge that you seriously consider blocking (YES, BLOCKING) his cell number from your account, his email address from your account, and his onlie profiles from your own.
Any contact with this man is going to result in personal damage. Any contact of any type.
If it were me, I’d block his number, etc., and toss his jacket in a dumpster or, better yet, hand it to a homeless person in need.
Before you respond to this nitwit, please, give the matter some serious thought.
Brightest blessings
Ok I’ll do as you say. In your experience if you don’t ablige them, will it cause a bigger scene? like enrage him more? i could see this lunatic coming to my house for it. He said I dont deserve anything for how i treated him. insane. Then i think maybe just give him the jacket and let that be it. he said give it back kindly so i can stop thinking about you once and for all. I know this is just a tactic of his to see me. Last we spoke we left off peacefully now in his mind I was a heartless animal. Im not living my life in fear of him anymore.
Truths speak – there are no children. He honestly lives in his own world. For that matter should I ask for the flatware I bought him back? Absolutely crazy I never recieved such a nasty email before. Putting me down its endless. I feel like it’s never going to end with this lunatic he thinks of new stories everyday. He’s pissed off that he broke up with me and I’m taking it serious.
lov10,
yes, he will up the ante whether you give it back or you don’t. The only way he will ever go away is if he gets bored with you, so that has to be your goal.
That is accomplished by making all the buttons he pushes, defective. The buttons don’t work anymore. She doesn’t react at all. She doesn’t DO anything, or SAY anything, no matter what the spath says.
Material objects are, for spaths, just MacGuffins. A MacGuffin is a plot device. It is the “thing” or “goal” that gets all the characters in the movie or book, running around and doing something. Spaths don’t value anything, so they look to see what you value and use that to get you running around doing something.
In this case, right now, the MacGuffin is the jacket. It has suddenly become an object of value that he “wants”. Well he doesn’t really want it but he is testing to see how you feel about it. That’s why I say do not react. If you do, he will assume he pushed an emotional button. (which he did, but you don’t let him know)
You say he sent you a vile email. Good. Save it. Next thing you do is use that email to get an order of protection or restraining order. (I know there is a difference but I’m not sure what it is.) Save all his voice, text and email messages and use them against him.
Thank you Sklyar. I agree with you. If I give it back or not it still wouldn’t be good enough and he’d find something else to start on. I honestly want to give it back if thats what it will take to get rid of him but its not. He has no respect for the law so I know a restraining order would only intensify the thrill to contact me, but if he gets too crazy then I may have to. I’m honestly stunned how he can flip something like this. We had a peaceful conversation and now he’s saying I was vicious. How he wants the jacket back before he leaves for Miami for New Years ( trying to throw another dig at me) so he can forget about me once and for all. I believe what you say is true and I won’t give it back.
I like the idea of giving it to a homeless person or a shelter or salvation army or some other good cause.
Sky’s right it will not matter what you give back or don’t, he will never be satisfied, he will come up with ANOTHER EXCUSE for communication. GRAY ROCK–POTTED PLANT—NO RESPONSE AT ALL. BLOCK HIS TEXTS, E MAILS, VOICE MAILS, and keep any you already have that are threatening
If he ups the ante contact the police.
Thank you I appreciate the advice.
lov10:
He gave that jacket to you as a gift. Why would he want it back? It’s yours. He has no use for it at all. Skylar is exactly right…he is only using the jacket as a tool to get to you. I would totally just ignore him. The more emotions you give him, the more he will bug you. Let him go to Miami.
Louise- He is materialistic number 1 and probably wants to return it to buy himself one. He told me I don’t deserve it and all I do is take from him I don’t appreciate anything. He is the most demented person I have ever met. Sick and twisted doesnt even explain him. He makes things up and then believes them. He’s making up things that never even happened. I could care less about the stupid jacket I just want him to leave me alone. I’m afraid of what he is capable of but I can’t give in to him and live in fear my whole life.