Editor’s note: This article was submitted by Steve Becker, LCSW, CH.T, who has a private psychotherapy, hypnotherapy, and clinical consulting practice in New Jersey, USA. For more information, visit his website, powercommunicating.com.
We can begin by noting something that both narcissists and psychopaths share: a tendency to regard others as objects more than persons. Immediately this raises concerns: you don’t have to empathize with objects; objects don’t have feelings worth recognizing. You can toy with objects; manipulate and exploit them for your own gratification, with a paucity of guilt.
Welcome to the world of the narcissist and psychopath. Theirs is a mindset of immediate, demanded gratification, with a view of others as expected—indeed existing—to serve their agendas. Frustrate their agendas, and you can expect repercussions, ranging from the disruptive to ruinous.
Distinct explanations for their actions
The behaviors of narcissists and psychopaths can look very similar in their staggering disregard and abuse of others. Distinctions arise, however, in the explanation of their actions. The narcissist will crave recognition and validation. He will demand that others notice and appreciate his special qualities; his special qualities make his needs special, which leaves him feeling entitled to their satisfaction. He demands all this as if his inner self is at stake, and it is. Disappointment leaves him feeling unappreciated, neglected. Anger and rage then surface in aggressive and passive-aggressive displays, often in proportion to the hurt and vulnerability he can’t own.
The psychopath is less obsessed than the narcissist with validation. Indeed, his inner world seems to lack much of anything to validate: it is barren, with nothing in it that would even be responsive to validation. An emotional cipher, the psychopath’s exploitation of others is more predatory than the narcissist’s. For the psychopath, who may be paranoid, the world is something like a gigantic hunt, populated by personified-objects to be mined to his advantage.
Example: narcissists and psychopaths as cheaters
As an example, let’s take a hypothetical narcissist and psychopath: Both males (females can be narcissists and psychopaths), both married, with families; and both compulsively conducting extra-marital affairs. Both have managed to avoid exposure principally due to the ease and remarkable skill with which they routinely lie and dissemble. They are equally persuasive in declaiming their fidelity to their wives as they are at contriving their unmarried status to their mistresses. Nevertheless, from time to time, their wives may approach them with uneasy suspicions, to which they’ll respond not with accountability, but as with outrage to have to deign to address their wives’ anxieties. They will impugn their wives for raising doubts about them, leaving the latter feeling defensive, guilty, and perhaps ashamed.
Narcissist is insecure
To this point, there is little on the surface to distinguish them. But going deeper, we discover that our narcissist is actually terribly insecure and needy. For him, having affairs validates his masculinity. His seductive abilities reassure him of his manhood. If he can no longer seduce and sleep with women, he is nothing; he has “lost it.” Feeling his nothingness/worthlessness, he grows depressed, despairing. He might even feel like killing himself. To salvage his collapsing self-image, he needs an infusion of reassurance, sought in a new affair. In the narcissist’s world, the more his psychic welfare is threatened, the more hers is disposable.
The narcissist will rationalize his actions with his greatest defenses—blame and contempt: My wife has been nasty to me for a long time, and doesn’t remotely appreciate me anymore. She’s lucky all I do is cheat; I could leave her instead, with nothing. The fact that I’ve stayed is almost charitable. And these women I cheat with”¦sure, they all think I’m unmarried, and you know what, I basically am.
Our narcissist, as you see, has a dim notion of ethics; but his ethics are corrupted by alarming rationalizations. He is expert at furnishing these rationalizations seamlessly, leaving him as if with the untroubled conscience of the psychopath.
Psychopath plays a game
Our psychopath, meanwhile, has no ethics, and thus no need for rationalizations. He has affairs because he wants to. Life, for him, is a game. The game is about figuring out how to get what he wants now, by whatever stratagems necessary. And it’s a game without rules. Without rules, there is no violation, no exploitation; and even if there is, it’s part of the game. So our psychopath makes up the rules as he goes along, duping this individual and that, lying like a shameless child as he improvises his way in and out of his schemes, sometimes smoothly, sometimes not—but always heedless of, and absolutely indifferent to, the damage he causes.
The psychopath will sit back, reflecting on his infidelities, and laughing, think, “I’ve still got it.” He will mean, “I’ve still got the ability to maneuver these women like a puppeteer.” This will amuse him. The narcissist will sit back, and likewise think, “I’ve still got it.” But he will mean, “I’m still attractive. Women still find me irresistible. I’m okay, for now.”
Commonly, the psychopath is upheld as the incarnation of the murderous bogeyman. While it’s true that many cold-blooded killers are psychopaths, most psychopaths are not killers. The majority of psychopaths would find a messy murder too inconvenient and personally unpleasant a task to assume. This—the personal inconvenience and unpleasantness, not empathy for the slaughtered victim—explains why a great many more psychopaths than not, with chilling non-compunction, are more likely to target your life’s savings than butcher you, and dispose of your remains in several industrial-strength Hefty bags.
This doesn’t make the non-murderous psychopath “less psychopathic,” or “more sensitive” than the murderous psychopath; it merely reflects the calculus psychopaths apply in their decision-making: how can I get, or take what I want, for maximum instant gain, at minimum personal inconvenience?
That’s because they charm, and manipulate everybody. They have chameleons like behavior and can be very convincing when they want to impress people. That’s why only people who have an intimate relationship with them can recognize the other face. Usually on other’s people eyes they seem to be very nice people and everybody loves them. They do this on purpose to drive you crazy. Who’s going to believe you? That’s how they live. Don’t forget that they are pure evil. Everything they do is calculated to serve only their ultimate purpose. For them this is a game where everybody involved with no exception is part of their evil puzzle.
Tami
My last comment was for you.
Thank you, Pitanga. You know, after reading the above description of a narcissist as a cheater, it is THAT description that best fits him; however, he acted more like a sociopath in other ways–mimicking grief, concern, spirituality, etc. He was very much a drama king. And he REALLY acted like a sociopath when he was leaving me. His family described his actions as being the way he’s always acted when he was “through”.
It seemed that he needed constant validation and reasurrance that I found him attractive and loved him. He also seemed to base love purely on sex. He even told his new girl that he needed sex at least once a day and asked her if that would be a problem. She told him “no” because she was a very sexual person. He also informed her that he was a very needy person and that if he didn’t get the attention and sex he wanted, he would seek it elsewhere. She doesn’t seem to understand that nothing she does will ever be enough–he will consume her soul with his constant needs. He didn’t even want me to cook or do housework–said it took too much time away from us. And when I was cooking or doing dishes, he would be right there pulling and tugging at me copping feels. It was NOT normal playfulness! It interferred with my ability to carry out normal household tasks and certainly did NOT allow for anytime for myself whatsoever. I couldn’t even bend over the sink to brush my teeth. I’d had never experienced anything quite like it. And, when I’d ask him to stop so I could finish dinner, dishes, etc. He’d pull back and accuse me of no longer loving him or finding him diserable. I felt as though I tried so hard to keep up with his sexual needs and give him the attention he needed. And yet, he could go out and have sex with literally the first willing woman he found, and then come home and be the perfect loving husband and have sex with me within hours of being with someone else.
He was also a dreamer. He would conjure up ideas way beyond our means and act as though he expected me to be able to make them happen somehow–like buying a nightclub, or investing in other business ventures that I certainly could not afford when I was mostly the only one working out of the two of us. It was like he lived in a fantasy world. He was serious about these adventures and would get aggitated with me when I’d take a practical standpoint. He felt we should use the house payment one month and take a vacation on it. He didn’t understand why the grass had to be cut. He said it took too much time. When he wanted something, he wanted it right then and if he didn’t even seem to take into consideration that he didn’t have a job. I often feared that he thought I had some endless stash of funds somewhere that I kept hidden from him. It seemed that he expected that I could make anything happen that he wanted.
The girlfriend told me that he’d told her that he had been looking for another woman for a long time (to justify his infidelities–I’m sure), but that she was the first one that he had encountered that was “worth” leaving me for.
And, one last thing. He was very happy go lucky with me–giggly and to the point of being downright child-like and silly which I found a little annoying during stressful moments. It felt as though I were raising a child all over again. When he was leaving me, he developed this dark look and a coldness in his eyes. He’s been gone and with her for well over a year, but the darkness is still there. People who see him say that he looks terrible and still has this dark look. His brother tells me that he seems very full of aggression and acts mad at the world all the time. I don’t quite understand that unless it’s part of the chameleon thing and that’s who he feels that he needs to be now.
His father has told me that he felt he is a sex addict like he once was and now that he’s 40–he’ll stop all that and settle down.
I’m sorry for the many and long posts but this site is the most informational and helpful site I’ve found. I’ve actually told his girlfriend that I feel he is a sociopath and that he’ll never change simply because there is a very strong pattern to his behavior with a long history. Of course, she thinks she’s the special one that will turn him around and maybe she just might–I don’t know. Evidently, she believes this as she has invested a small fortune in him and says she’s going to do everything she can to keep up with his needs for attention and sex. She’s more woman than me! LOL!
what i would like to know is why do they see sex as power? it is so similar in every story on here its such a big part of there sociopathic ways. it seems to get worse with some of them perhaps with age? Dont all little boys and girls get taught about sex when growing up that its about love affection caring and sharing . so how the hell do you get to the power part of that. i mean some people are very sexual but they dont set out to get power from it or hurt or manipulate anyone by means of sex. in fact i dont see that they always do gain power from the sex, in my relationship with the s path it wasnt like a power play, he definetly liked sex a lot but i didnt see him winning anything from having sex with me except maybe to try and prove to me that he loved me so much. in fact he was so careless with the sex in the begining not using protection and trusting me to cover that side of it, i could have easily gotten my self pregnant and then i would be the one having the power over him in fact, not that i wanted power like that. really my s path seemed very careless about a lot of things for all his scheming and plotting to do evil to me none of it was very well thought out really not in the begining now that i think about it a lot of the things he did in the first half of it all was more helpful to me in a lot of ways. but i guess it was all for him, and in the end his plotting was a lot more definite and not as messy as a lot of ther things he did during our relationship. i had no idea he was going to leave and he was plotting it for a while. in fact he tried to get me to end it by faking a message on his phone from a woman, i have no duobt there were other woman but on this occasion he faked it cause he knew it would be the last straw and i would probably end it forever but to his dismay i didnt so that back fired, i totally knew he faked it and what he was trying to do to get out the easy way to make me end it for him. who thinks like that . that was one of his famous sayings who does things like that? or who says things like that? yeh well he did . how ironic is there behaviour. i really think they are in the category of people who dont know how to have a relationship no matter how much they want something they screw it up eventually. i think he actually did want to be with me and to make it work in the begining, i think a big factor was security i had property and a secure life where as he had nothing and never had a secure life even growing up. but when things dont g o there way even a little bit things changed, he felt like he wasnt getting his own way, so he started thinking how can i get my own way ect ect we all know the story.
i was reading an article in australia about this famous footballer his name is wayne carey he is on ddhg i think i saw a profile of him on there. anyway hes is always in the new s and papers over here. the latest thing he has done is he smasheda glass into his girl friends face, then when the police arrived he asaulted the police man. anyway i am pretty sure he is a sociopath if you want more info see ddhg. anway there was a doctor who read this wayne careys girlfriends my space page she wrote how she loved being in love she loved the extreme highs and the sometimes low lows she felt by being in love. the doctor said that after reading her my space that he thought her feelings of love where like an addcition like an addict feels the highs and then the lows and the rush you get from that. he felt that is why she didnt leave this man cause she was a addicted to him and the feelings she was getting in extremes . i feel this guy is really a sociopath and this poor pretty girl with a slashed face is very much his victim. but it was interesting how the doctor explained it like being addicted to the feelings and this was stopping her from leaving i hope she leaves now, and he should go to jail. another example of a high profile sociopath who is always in the media, hes a classic example. and sadly she is too a victim.
Yes, I think security was a big part of what my ex was looking for as well. I had the house, the credit, the long-term job, etc. I also agree with what you say about the football player’s girlfriend being addicted to love. However, I don’t necessarily think that the partner of an s has to have an addiction. For me, I was approaching 40 and starting to feel a little insecure about myself–the mid-life thing. He flattered me constantly by telling me how beautiful and desireable I was as well as how intelligent he saw me to be! All the things we’d like to hear about ourselves, right? Looking back, he told me that stuff TOO much. A normal person does not flatter someone with compliments at least 5 times a day of nearly 8 years! I think this way his way of getting out of me what he wanted. He’d feed me a compliment with the hopes of my giving him something in return. The younger woman (I knew her before and we’ve talked about what happened)he left me for has told me that she feel in love with him becaue she had never had anyone show her that much attention and affection. Like I once did, she has her own set of complaints about him but stays with him because of the way he makes HER feel. She married her husband when she was 16 and had been with him for 13 years before my ex broke their marriage up. I guess her husband had moved past the flattery stage along time ago. That’s another thing…what’s up with them breaking up marriages? I was married when I met him and allowed him to lead me into divorcing my husband. I can’t even bring myself to be angry with the woman he left me for because deep in my gut, I feel I know that he is using her the same as he has everyone else. She’s already invested a fortune in him in just a year’s time!
tami and aloha, yes my s path flattered his way into my heart over the top too your so beautiful your strong i love strong woman, your a real woman not some little girl, i dont normaly meet people like you, bla h blah so many can t even remember, swamped me with it all and it is flatering i was older too, but in my gut i thought this is too much too soon. i should have dstoped it all then and saved myself more damage, i did break up with him early on after a short while i thought he was a bit young and a bit hopeless he didnt have anything not a car, good job nothing not that im material istic but something just told me get rid of him so i did and he was devestated. he cried and said thank for making me happy even if it was short, i felt so bad the guilt trip was strong he got so emotional. but i got real lonely and started to see him again as freinds but he wormed his way back. but he knew i wanted to be with someone, he was sly he asked me when we first met what did i most want in life. then when i read these pages how they find out your dreams and become them thats just what he did but i did not see that then in the start. you are lucky in a way to talk to his new woman i wish i could but he gards every detail of them so i cant find out anything . they are not smart but he seemed to know every way to get around me and i am smart intuitive, he just had this ability which i would not expect someone who is not that smart to have it was like he read my mind sometimes. but now i have learned a lot of things and i can read him very well. does their cunning just come as another extra sense we do not have or is it learned. aloha, yes it is much harder to get over them but why is that the case, do you know. is it because they are so exrtreme in all the attention they pour onto us. i keep asking why cant i just get over it and stop wondering what he is up to now. i also go over things he did to me in my mind and try to figure it out , but i know i never will and i dont like that. it is totally different to any other break up ever even a marriage break up i had. love to hear your thoughts and getting lots out of wrtiting here and getting responses. so thnk you all.
You never realy get over a narciccist like you would a norma person, they leave no sense of closure so the mourning takes longer.
Jules I understand you like you are me..I went through similar things and I thought I would go crazy and its all in my mind…however although I though he was with other women I never realy had any proove and I wasnt the kind to bother to ask these things….
my STORY:
http://thepsychopath.freeforums.org/viewtopic.php?t=7694
Diaz,
I read your story but I didn’t read all your posts. But I did see that you said that you are not sure your ex was a Narcissist and you think you brought out the behaviors in him. NO WAY. This is so classic of a response. He wants you to think that. So, you will keep trying to change yourself and you will break down and break down and break down… and you will wonder if he is having a perfectly normal relationship with someone else… and that will majorly bum you out but guaranteed, he isn’t and you aren’t. That is to say, he isn’t having normal relationships with others and you aren’t bringing these things out of him. He needs you to think this is all your fault… it’s part of the hook. So you can keep trying to be better and worthy of the “love” he showered on you in the beginning before he realized you were so unworhty… get it?
I figure if someone lands on a page of information on Narcissism or Psychopath or Sociopath… you are probably in the right place.
Alohatraveler is 100% correct. Until it is accepted that we have been victimized, there is always that nagging doubt. It was put there by the Sociopath, on purpose, to have control of you, for their pleasure for whatever it may be.
It took me 18-years (I started up with him when I was 16) to accept that he was not having a normal relationship with subsequent women either, cause he SWORE he was. One girlfriend took a restraining order out against him, and the next girl moved out of an apartment she shared with him, and she shared all the reasons with me when it was all said and done and she couldn’t get him to leave her alone…I started to get the “satisfaction” of knowing that it was not just all me. Same tricks.
Best advice: Detatch, and when it comes to the sociopath think only of yourself(they do). I had one friend put it like this “If you were eating a hamburger, and it was raw in the middle, and you threw into a dumpster, would you climb in the dumpster to go get it and finish it? All of Your questions should be, unfortunately, held in as rhetorical. The Sociopath will only set you up to be pulled in again if you go back to the “source” and ask for them to be answered by “their evilness”. They have no empathy for their victims, they will not accept responsibility for any of their actions – not one!!…No one says “it is all about me” like a Sociopath!
My sociopath still attempts to blame me for my reactions to catching him in the act. That is when I say to myself “had it not been for HIS actions – none of that would have ever happened” I have said that to him in the past and His response to that is that he felt like I was trying to control him from the get go – so this is what he went and did – and it goes on and on and on – I am sure all victims can agree. Doesn’t matter what it is…Could be a vacation that you are paying for that you were supposed to enjoy together, or a day out with the kids, instead of saying “no thank you, i have this planned or that planned” like a kind and decent person – it becomes what could be laughingly identified as passive aggressive behavior; by not showing up,or showing up late, while you wait sometimes for hours, while the kids wait (mine used to answer the phone and say he was at the corner – Then I’d call – and he wouldn’t answer the phone) – for you to find out he fell and tripped into some womans vagina, played cards with his friends, it doesn’t matter – it is all about them trying to control the victim. As we are all courteous people – we would have accepted if they had just declined the invitation to begin with. But when it blows up, (and I believe sociopaths LOVE drama – makes them feel alive) according to them it is our fault?!
It is just sick, it always continues it never ends as long as answers are needed, this is why No Contact is the simplest, although not the easiest, answer. It is the beginning of the end of the torture.