Man, it’s not easy out there. Your partner clearly has a major personality disturbance, but sometimes separating borderline, narcissistic and sociopathic behavior can be hard. Real tough. Especially when there are spill-over behaviors, cross-contaminating behaviors and attitudes (as there often are) that further muddy the diagnostic waters.
Let’s look at rage, for instance. Rage is a major marker of the borderline and narcissistic personality. Sociopaths, being essentially malignant, high-end narcissists, like any full-blown narcissist, are also capable of frightful, bullying, abusive rages.
The borderline’s rage, much like the narcissist’s, tends to be elicted by disappoinment. And it’s not always “abandonment”-related. When the borderline, much like the narcissist, feels uncatered to, neglected or invalidated, WATCH OUT!!!!
The “tsunami” will be coming in a gigantic, overwhelming, RATIONALIZED WAVE. That wave will crash on you with shocking, destructive force, threatening to take your legs out from under you.
The sociopath’s rage is also elicited, commonly, by the frustration of his needs, demands, expectations. When that’s not the case, he may be salivating for some excitement, perhaps to escape the accumulating tension of his boredom; and so he may want a good dust-up to entertain himself: Unleashing his rage in a bullying assault may do the trick.
Remorse for the impact and damage of their rages is often missing in all three cases. Incredible, really INCREDIBLE rationalization, plus the astounding absence of self-reflection and accountability, is commonly missing as well.
The borderline feels as justified in his raging as the narcissist. His raging is pure narcissism being acted-out in the moment. The borderline, it is true, may later plead for forgiveness, but this is not always the case. Some borderlines will not pursue you at all after they’ve degraded you in a rage.
And not to confuse matters, but some narcissists and sociopaths will lobby for your forgiveness and amnesty after abusive displays in sometimes florid gestures of contrition.
The borderline and narcissist are both notorious vacillators along the idealizing-devaluing continuum. They are both “splitters” in the sense of perceiving others in rigidly black and white ways. When in their good graces, you are fantastic; their greatest luck and good fortune was to have met you; but disappoint them, and you are likely, suddenly, abruptly, to qualify as the worst, most despicable person they ever had the misfortune to cross paths with.
Sociopaths, in this sense, may be so disconnected, so pathologically disengaged from, and indifferent to, the emotional lives of others that, paradoxically, they may bring less of this particular kind of “splitting” drama to the table than borderlines and the typical narcissist.
This isn’t to suggest that sociopaths don’t “act out” in an outrageous variety of destructive ways. They can, and do.
And devaluation and contempt of others deeply, definingly characterizes the sociopath’s perspective; it’s just that the sociopath may actually exercise, and experience, his twisted emotional disconnection from others with sometimes (but not always!) less volatility than your typical borderline or narcissist. He may sometimes be more predictably, continuously indifferent, contemptuous and emotionally uninvested in others than his borderline or narcissistic counterpart.
The borderline can be callous and cruel, as can the narcissist and sociopath. Hmmm. When we are dealing with a callous, cruel individual whose aim is to BE DESTRUCTIVE (at least in the moment), with no compunction or remorse, but only contempt and hate for the object of his rage, then at least, for the moment, it may be somewhat immaterial which personality disorder we’re dealing with.
We may know later, but at the time, what difference does it really make? The individual’s present intent is clear—to hurt, destroy, inflict pain (in the borderline’s case, perhaps to discharge his pain by inflicting pain). But the experience on the other end, on your end, may be largely the same. You will feel variously abused, humiliated, threatened, degraded.
As noted, all three personality types may (or may not) later show contrition, thus contrition doesn’t accurately distinguish them. Plus, gauging the sincerity of an apology, its depth, is tough business. So again, this isn’t easy. Who are we dealing with? And does it even, always, matter?
I might add this rather vague, but possibly valid, observation: When borderlines aren’t “borderlining,” they are often really good and good-hearted individuals. They are often generous, authentic, sensitive and giving individuals. This is obviously a generalization. There are “borderlines” who, even when they aren’t raging, may be self-centered, jerky individuals, unpleasant and messed up in a million other ways. Still, many borderlines when they’re functioning above their “rage modes” are genuinely engaged, empathic, loving individuals.
You can not say this about the sociopath. This doesn’t mean the sociopath can’t “put this on.” But the sociopath, even when he isn’t obviously “sociopathing,” is always who he is at bottom: a cold, empty, empathically deficient, transgressive-minded individual who, at best, covers up his core contempt of others’ dignity and boundaries.
Not so with borderline personalities.
And narcissists who aren’t full-blown, those who retain a capacity to reflect on their narcissism (as some do) and its impact on those around them–which is tantamount to saying they retain a capacity (in less self-centered states of mind) to reflect on their impact on others with some degree of empathy–these narcissists, too, may be capable of authentic generosity, engagement and compassion, which makes them less incorrigible (and perhaps thus even more confusing) than the sociopath who, if he may sometimes present as the more stable, consistent personality, is clearly the most pathological of them all.
This article is intended to introduce the complicated challenge of differientating these volatile, destructive personalities; it is the first of several I intend to write.
(This article was copyrighted © 2012 by Steve Becker, LCSW. My use of the male gender pronoun was strictly for convenience’s sake and not to imply that females aren’t capable of the attitudes and behaviors discussed.)
Thank you, Steve. I needed to read this tonight.
Steve,
Next time (their will be no next time) a socio, psycho, narc unleases their rage on me ‘Imma hit them in the head with a baseball bat, golf club, or spray them with wasp spray.
Yeah, then we’ll talk. LOL I’m SO done with them.
I believe the person I dated before the x-spath was a borderline. Thus, I see some clear distinctions between the two.
First, both have an “emptiness” that they seek to fill.
Borderlines, since they actually have feelings, are capable of a long-term relationship when the right person comes along. Sociopaths are incapable of a long-term relationship.
If they are involved with somebody, borderlines with have great difficulty in ending an existing relationship. Sociopaths show no such difficulty.
Sociopaths, since they are always masking something, are prone to “WTF?” moments. Borderlines are generally more honest and less prone to be reactionary, since they do not have a body of lies to cover.
PS Let me add that a borderline with another co-morbid condition, such a BPD, can appear at times to be very sociopathic.
Steve, I think you touched on the bottom line several times….it doesn’t make a PRACTICAL whit of difference which one we are dealing with, in any of the cases, it is toxic to having an INTIMATE RELATIONSHIP of any depth and character with such an individual.
While there may be some clinical differences in the personality disorders (“cluster Bs”) and in the depth of their problematic behaviors and thinking, from a practical, real world aspect, I can’t see a great deal of differences that make any “practical” differences.
While professionals disagree on the diagnoses of various individuals in sorting out various diagnoses, trying to come to a conclusion, hard and fast, for the lay person is totally impossible, I think. And, what difference does it make in the LIVES of anyone? While it is in theory possible to “treat” a person labeled “borderline” and most people agree that there is little if any possibility of treatment for adults who classify as psychopathic, unless we are in a court case, the points are moot.
Since the professionals can’t agree on the diagnostic criteria for “psychopath” or even the name for the disorder, I don’t think it makes a tinker’s dam what we call it as long as we realize it is TOXIC and there isnt’ a possibility to have a relationship that is satisfying with such a person.
Here, here, Ox, I completely agree with every word you said.
Absolutely. The only thing that really does matter is getting it away from you as quickly as you can before it festers and becomes something out of a nightmare.
HA: professionals can’t agree? Imagine that. But they sure can agree on things of lesser importance; can’t they?
I am not sure WHAT “IT” was…bipolar; adhd; several things, I am sure, looking at it through my view…all I know is that I had to get it away from me before it murdered me by manipulation. And, that’s not just for laughs either.
Great article, Steve…
Thanks for clarifying a lot for me.
It helps give me ‘grounding’. 🙂
Lesson for the day: Doesn’t matter what the mental problem is. A monster is a monster is a monster. Always has been, always will be. There is no cure for any of the three disorders because they think there’s nothing wrong with them. It’s everyone else that doesn’t cheat, lie, steal, humiliate, neglect, demean, choke and punch people that are the screwed-up ones. They, on the other hand, are superior and have everything all figured out. Manipulation is the gift that was bestowed upon them, so they think. It’s a pathetically empty, joyless, unfulfilled and meaningless life as all emotion is feigned.
I agree with you survivor3. Absolutely.
Dupey
Yes, the Cluster-Bs are for the most part impossible to “cure” and are best avoided.
I wish we could stop with the cutesy labels (borderline personality disorder, narciccist, sociopath) and just call them what they are, devil’s spawns.