Man, it’s not easy out there. Your partner clearly has a major personality disturbance, but sometimes separating borderline, narcissistic and sociopathic behavior can be hard. Real tough. Especially when there are spill-over behaviors, cross-contaminating behaviors and attitudes (as there often are) that further muddy the diagnostic waters.
Let’s look at rage, for instance. Rage is a major marker of the borderline and narcissistic personality. Sociopaths, being essentially malignant, high-end narcissists, like any full-blown narcissist, are also capable of frightful, bullying, abusive rages.
The borderline’s rage, much like the narcissist’s, tends to be elicted by disappoinment. And it’s not always “abandonment”-related. When the borderline, much like the narcissist, feels uncatered to, neglected or invalidated, WATCH OUT!!!!
The “tsunami” will be coming in a gigantic, overwhelming, RATIONALIZED WAVE. That wave will crash on you with shocking, destructive force, threatening to take your legs out from under you.
The sociopath’s rage is also elicited, commonly, by the frustration of his needs, demands, expectations. When that’s not the case, he may be salivating for some excitement, perhaps to escape the accumulating tension of his boredom; and so he may want a good dust-up to entertain himself: Unleashing his rage in a bullying assault may do the trick.
Remorse for the impact and damage of their rages is often missing in all three cases. Incredible, really INCREDIBLE rationalization, plus the astounding absence of self-reflection and accountability, is commonly missing as well.
The borderline feels as justified in his raging as the narcissist. His raging is pure narcissism being acted-out in the moment. The borderline, it is true, may later plead for forgiveness, but this is not always the case. Some borderlines will not pursue you at all after they’ve degraded you in a rage.
And not to confuse matters, but some narcissists and sociopaths will lobby for your forgiveness and amnesty after abusive displays in sometimes florid gestures of contrition.
The borderline and narcissist are both notorious vacillators along the idealizing-devaluing continuum. They are both “splitters” in the sense of perceiving others in rigidly black and white ways. When in their good graces, you are fantastic; their greatest luck and good fortune was to have met you; but disappoint them, and you are likely, suddenly, abruptly, to qualify as the worst, most despicable person they ever had the misfortune to cross paths with.
Sociopaths, in this sense, may be so disconnected, so pathologically disengaged from, and indifferent to, the emotional lives of others that, paradoxically, they may bring less of this particular kind of “splitting” drama to the table than borderlines and the typical narcissist.
This isn’t to suggest that sociopaths don’t “act out” in an outrageous variety of destructive ways. They can, and do.
And devaluation and contempt of others deeply, definingly characterizes the sociopath’s perspective; it’s just that the sociopath may actually exercise, and experience, his twisted emotional disconnection from others with sometimes (but not always!) less volatility than your typical borderline or narcissist. He may sometimes be more predictably, continuously indifferent, contemptuous and emotionally uninvested in others than his borderline or narcissistic counterpart.
The borderline can be callous and cruel, as can the narcissist and sociopath. Hmmm. When we are dealing with a callous, cruel individual whose aim is to BE DESTRUCTIVE (at least in the moment), with no compunction or remorse, but only contempt and hate for the object of his rage, then at least, for the moment, it may be somewhat immaterial which personality disorder we’re dealing with.
We may know later, but at the time, what difference does it really make? The individual’s present intent is clear—to hurt, destroy, inflict pain (in the borderline’s case, perhaps to discharge his pain by inflicting pain). But the experience on the other end, on your end, may be largely the same. You will feel variously abused, humiliated, threatened, degraded.
As noted, all three personality types may (or may not) later show contrition, thus contrition doesn’t accurately distinguish them. Plus, gauging the sincerity of an apology, its depth, is tough business. So again, this isn’t easy. Who are we dealing with? And does it even, always, matter?
I might add this rather vague, but possibly valid, observation: When borderlines aren’t “borderlining,” they are often really good and good-hearted individuals. They are often generous, authentic, sensitive and giving individuals. This is obviously a generalization. There are “borderlines” who, even when they aren’t raging, may be self-centered, jerky individuals, unpleasant and messed up in a million other ways. Still, many borderlines when they’re functioning above their “rage modes” are genuinely engaged, empathic, loving individuals.
You can not say this about the sociopath. This doesn’t mean the sociopath can’t “put this on.” But the sociopath, even when he isn’t obviously “sociopathing,” is always who he is at bottom: a cold, empty, empathically deficient, transgressive-minded individual who, at best, covers up his core contempt of others’ dignity and boundaries.
Not so with borderline personalities.
And narcissists who aren’t full-blown, those who retain a capacity to reflect on their narcissism (as some do) and its impact on those around them–which is tantamount to saying they retain a capacity (in less self-centered states of mind) to reflect on their impact on others with some degree of empathy–these narcissists, too, may be capable of authentic generosity, engagement and compassion, which makes them less incorrigible (and perhaps thus even more confusing) than the sociopath who, if he may sometimes present as the more stable, consistent personality, is clearly the most pathological of them all.
This article is intended to introduce the complicated challenge of differientating these volatile, destructive personalities; it is the first of several I intend to write.
(This article was copyrighted © 2012 by Steve Becker, LCSW. My use of the male gender pronoun was strictly for convenience’s sake and not to imply that females aren’t capable of the attitudes and behaviors discussed.)
BBE,
May I ask for your email through Donna? I have to ask you something.
Thanks.
No problem Ana.
Thank you so much for that, Steve, because my P sister’s daughter has been diagnosed with BPD. She is as you stated, very caring, kind, and giving when she isn’t being borderline. (I guess she is always BPD – I meant when the worst wasn’t showing.)
I’ve often felt that my niece didn’t get a decent break in life. With a different mother and home life, I think she would have turned out very differently. Hard to say, but she was born into a marriage where the parents were already battling. My sister got pregnant with her to save the marriage. Then my BIL publicly cheated on my sister while she was pregnant. The kid never stood a chance for normal parenting.
Is BPD due primarily to parenting? I read somewhere that it was. Is that true?
I’ve called my S mother a rageaholic for many years.
Really helpful information, Steve. I look forward to your other articles. Thanks, again.
I just want to throw this out there: Many survivors of relationships with narcissists and sociopaths are diagnosed as BPD’s. In reality they are suffering complex PTSD. For more on this, google NVS.
Okay. NVS won’t get ys there. Try narcissistic victim syndrom.
G1S: “Rageaholic”! LOL I LOVE that expression! Thank you!
Steve, thank you for your very informative article. The nickname for my mother in my father’s family was “Madame ‘ name of italian volcano’ .
Explaining the rage: When I was with my first real friend at 24, I was very concerned that we NEVER ever had a loud argument, as my parents had. A huge relief was it for me when I found some big argument to get loud on it (for me the relationship was not normal but lacked some “intensity” 🙁 ) We later split as I percieved him as being “not nice” with me, as my parents suggested (they hated him for being too boring).
Both of my parents were mean towards each other, with huge threats to leave, even when we were very little. Once they both packed after another HUGE argument when we were 5 and 6 years old and they DID NOT pack the children’s bags, it was a great shock for both me and my sister we never forgot; we talked about it with the parents lately and they had no memory about it.
They still argue with very loud voices even on the streets, with me as well, and they give a &%*” what the others might think about it all but argue with them too, when the bystanders dare to notice, and it took me a lot of internal work for not feeling ashamed of them and take the blame anymore. That it is what it is and that they do what they do; breath, hear the birds sing and the wind in the hair and the sunrays or the rain (and sometimes I think I should charge the bystanders for watching a great show…). And NC as much as possible, of course.
Libelle,
LOL! charge the bystanders! yep!
I know I could make money charging people to meet my spath, like you’d charge at a freak show.
“Step right up ladies and gentlemen, meet a REAL live spath, in his natural environment! He’s charming, he’s pitiful, he’ll RAGE! Listen to him tell you black is white, ladies and gentlemen! He’s verrrrrrry convincing! Step right up! Don’t get too close ladies and gentlemen! and PLEASE! DON’T FEED THE SPATH!”
I’m still trying to work out how much to charge.
🙂
Steve, thank you for the in-depth discussion. The second exspath was very calculating, very cold, very distant, and there were probably 5 full-blown shouting events during a 12+ year marriage. During those explosive arguments, the exspath would dissolve into “speaking in tongues.” This is the only way that I can describe it. He would literally lose the capacity to articulate and absolutely babble.
And, I do agree – regardless of the “diagnosis,” each personality type is a danger to me.
Kim, towards the end of the first marriage, I honestly believed that I was bi-polar. My emotional stability went in cycles according to the domestic abuse cycles….and, I always blamed MYSELF for the cycles of violence because of my emotional cycles. What a vicious circle it creates.
Skylar….ROTFLMAO!!!! You know, I have been searching for a “fantasy” that I could imagine that exacted revenge against the exspath. YOU HAVE HIT THE NAIL ON THE HEAD!!!! LMAOLMAOLMAO!!!!!! Omigawd, what a WONDERFUL visual!!!! Spaths all in cages wearing various costumes (the most recent exspath would be in a zippered gimp suit) with a carnival barker at 66 decibels!!!
Spaths do NOT want to be identified, and such a scenario would be the ultimate in revenge! LOLOLOL
Yes, Yes, Yes, Kim Frederick! You are so right about the CPTSD. It is exactly what I suffered and still do suffer from because of the Narcissists in my life. That’s how they get you to believe it was all your fault. Because the symptoms of the CPTSD are similar to BPD.
I have found comfort in knowing that my symptoms are treatable. It’s a bit of hard work, but progress is being made.
We are not the disordered ones, just the sensitive ones who were abused and show the damage of that abuse.