Man, it’s not easy out there. Your partner clearly has a major personality disturbance, but sometimes separating borderline, narcissistic and sociopathic behavior can be hard. Real tough. Especially when there are spill-over behaviors, cross-contaminating behaviors and attitudes (as there often are) that further muddy the diagnostic waters.
Let’s look at rage, for instance. Rage is a major marker of the borderline and narcissistic personality. Sociopaths, being essentially malignant, high-end narcissists, like any full-blown narcissist, are also capable of frightful, bullying, abusive rages.
The borderline’s rage, much like the narcissist’s, tends to be elicted by disappoinment. And it’s not always “abandonment”-related. When the borderline, much like the narcissist, feels uncatered to, neglected or invalidated, WATCH OUT!!!!
The “tsunami” will be coming in a gigantic, overwhelming, RATIONALIZED WAVE. That wave will crash on you with shocking, destructive force, threatening to take your legs out from under you.
The sociopath’s rage is also elicited, commonly, by the frustration of his needs, demands, expectations. When that’s not the case, he may be salivating for some excitement, perhaps to escape the accumulating tension of his boredom; and so he may want a good dust-up to entertain himself: Unleashing his rage in a bullying assault may do the trick.
Remorse for the impact and damage of their rages is often missing in all three cases. Incredible, really INCREDIBLE rationalization, plus the astounding absence of self-reflection and accountability, is commonly missing as well.
The borderline feels as justified in his raging as the narcissist. His raging is pure narcissism being acted-out in the moment. The borderline, it is true, may later plead for forgiveness, but this is not always the case. Some borderlines will not pursue you at all after they’ve degraded you in a rage.
And not to confuse matters, but some narcissists and sociopaths will lobby for your forgiveness and amnesty after abusive displays in sometimes florid gestures of contrition.
The borderline and narcissist are both notorious vacillators along the idealizing-devaluing continuum. They are both “splitters” in the sense of perceiving others in rigidly black and white ways. When in their good graces, you are fantastic; their greatest luck and good fortune was to have met you; but disappoint them, and you are likely, suddenly, abruptly, to qualify as the worst, most despicable person they ever had the misfortune to cross paths with.
Sociopaths, in this sense, may be so disconnected, so pathologically disengaged from, and indifferent to, the emotional lives of others that, paradoxically, they may bring less of this particular kind of “splitting” drama to the table than borderlines and the typical narcissist.
This isn’t to suggest that sociopaths don’t “act out” in an outrageous variety of destructive ways. They can, and do.
And devaluation and contempt of others deeply, definingly characterizes the sociopath’s perspective; it’s just that the sociopath may actually exercise, and experience, his twisted emotional disconnection from others with sometimes (but not always!) less volatility than your typical borderline or narcissist. He may sometimes be more predictably, continuously indifferent, contemptuous and emotionally uninvested in others than his borderline or narcissistic counterpart.
The borderline can be callous and cruel, as can the narcissist and sociopath. Hmmm. When we are dealing with a callous, cruel individual whose aim is to BE DESTRUCTIVE (at least in the moment), with no compunction or remorse, but only contempt and hate for the object of his rage, then at least, for the moment, it may be somewhat immaterial which personality disorder we’re dealing with.
We may know later, but at the time, what difference does it really make? The individual’s present intent is clear—to hurt, destroy, inflict pain (in the borderline’s case, perhaps to discharge his pain by inflicting pain). But the experience on the other end, on your end, may be largely the same. You will feel variously abused, humiliated, threatened, degraded.
As noted, all three personality types may (or may not) later show contrition, thus contrition doesn’t accurately distinguish them. Plus, gauging the sincerity of an apology, its depth, is tough business. So again, this isn’t easy. Who are we dealing with? And does it even, always, matter?
I might add this rather vague, but possibly valid, observation: When borderlines aren’t “borderlining,” they are often really good and good-hearted individuals. They are often generous, authentic, sensitive and giving individuals. This is obviously a generalization. There are “borderlines” who, even when they aren’t raging, may be self-centered, jerky individuals, unpleasant and messed up in a million other ways. Still, many borderlines when they’re functioning above their “rage modes” are genuinely engaged, empathic, loving individuals.
You can not say this about the sociopath. This doesn’t mean the sociopath can’t “put this on.” But the sociopath, even when he isn’t obviously “sociopathing,” is always who he is at bottom: a cold, empty, empathically deficient, transgressive-minded individual who, at best, covers up his core contempt of others’ dignity and boundaries.
Not so with borderline personalities.
And narcissists who aren’t full-blown, those who retain a capacity to reflect on their narcissism (as some do) and its impact on those around them–which is tantamount to saying they retain a capacity (in less self-centered states of mind) to reflect on their impact on others with some degree of empathy–these narcissists, too, may be capable of authentic generosity, engagement and compassion, which makes them less incorrigible (and perhaps thus even more confusing) than the sociopath who, if he may sometimes present as the more stable, consistent personality, is clearly the most pathological of them all.
This article is intended to introduce the complicated challenge of differientating these volatile, destructive personalities; it is the first of several I intend to write.
(This article was copyrighted © 2012 by Steve Becker, LCSW. My use of the male gender pronoun was strictly for convenience’s sake and not to imply that females aren’t capable of the attitudes and behaviors discussed.)
Oh, I should add, that the last one was literally “The Sociopath Next Door,” just like the book says. My new next door neighbors moved in next to me in 2011. First they started out with simple trespassing, then it progressed to them trespassing with their “associates,” then it became nightly stalking, then when the threats of “you are going to die” came I just got out of there as fast as I could. Of course, this didn’t stop the sociopaths. No, I left my house vacant and they proceeded to vandalize it over time (costing me thousands of $ in terms of a loss – but then stalkers DO vandalize) and then they followed me here to my current place.
I reached out to the N or N/S in the midst of the stalking and all he would do is to write me off as nuts and tell me “my features had changed.” Wow, one night he was all lovely dovey and the next night did a 180. I never did see him after that. He did call me in Jan of this year to tell me a fantastic tale that I’d called him and said “X,” which I never did. X was serious and since he’s a Saint, doing God’s work (according to him), it’s funny he let 15 days go by before he called me after I supposedly said “X.”
Kathy, I agree that the label does not matter, it’s the messed up behavior that is important. I also encountered sociopaths throughout my life without knowing it, but the worst by far was the one who faked being my soulmate. They are everywhere- work, school, church, your neighborhood- and it will make you feel completely destroyed. But you have a choice. Go no contact. Call the police. Get a protective order. Just get as far from the source of your misery as possible and do not open any lines of communication. And read, read, read.
God bless.
KATHY- BTW, check out 180rule.com. You mentioned he did a 180 on you and this is another great site for healing from a sociopath.
Kathy, welcome to lovefraud. Did you see the article about the woman who was killed by her next door neighbor in her yard….she had tried to get a restraining order against him and was turned down. He killed her.
Be glad you escaped with your life. I know that may not make up for the things you lost financially and emotionally, but sometimes people don’t get out with their lives so at least you got that and the chance to recover.
There is lots of information here and lots of support too from people who KNOW WHAT KIND OF HELL the psychopaths can put you through. Welcome to Love Fraud. God bless.
Oh my gosh, Ox, I didn’t. Where can I find that article?
I am convinced he was (or maybe still is) going to kill me. In his case he’s rich and won’t do it himself. One night here I had both my house alarm and car alarm go off, so I know someone was here.
He and his wife are OBSESSED with me. Their stalking has been every day for months. The police would not believe me. They took his side. They thought I was a danger to him. My therapist actually intervened and told the police person (a woman!) that I was *not* delusional. That’s how bad it got. So I knew I had to both leave that house and that city – for my own good. The PD would laugh off the vandalism and blame it on birds and animals. They were irritated when I mentioned the kicked in garage door and said “why do you keep bringing that up?” I told them my brain worked that way and that all of the stuff happening was unusual. Their response? “We dont do unusual. We do crime.” I then said, “isn’t vandalism a crime?” It was horrible. I’d go over to my vacant house every other day or so (during the day only) to check on it. I was watching my house being chipped away at by vandalism on a regular basis. I’m just lucky it sold.
I do still live in fear here. I do own a gun for the first time in my life and I know how to use it. I’ve taken professional lessons. If anyone comes crashing through my window (which I pray to God never happens as I know I’d be charged but I will defend my life), I know what to do – as I call the police.
Kathy, I also carry a gun because “WHEN SECONDS COUNT, THE COPS ARE ONLY MINUTES AWAY” and I carry a gun because “a COP IS TOO HEAVY” LOL
I am sorry you have had this kind of experience and taht you were invalidated by the cops. Have you thought about going above their heads? To the district attorney?
Document, document, document!!! Keep a log of any strange activity and FILE A REPORT and get a copy of the report.
There are several good books on stalking and how to keep away from stalkers. What are they doing now? Where are you living versus where they are? I mean 100 miles away or 2 miles away. What is their beef with you? What do they want from you?
Ox, I forgot to say thanks for the welcome and thanks also to woundlicker. I shall check out that 180 site.
No, I want nothing to do with the police. I just want things to stop. The police have done me no favors – quite the contrary. Since I had such a hard time with the former police, I am staying away from the police in this city too. I have CCTV footage if need be on flash drives and I am not the only one who has this footage in case something happens to me.
As to what they are doing, well, I find evidence that “someone” has been here. Things like a bent in door frame, plants upside down, rugs out of place outside. These are the small ways of saying “I was here.” I am not far from where they live. It all started over a common wall dispute and escalated from there. I think they want to drive me crazy. I have done much reading on stalking and I guess their goal is to see me screw up (which they never will), discredit me (which they’ve done well) and see me either institutionalized or in jail or driven to suicide. I don’t plan to end up in any of those places.
Kathy0707, I am so sorry to hear that you’ve had these experiences – and, welcome.
Stalking…police, yeah. I had a similar experience and I was re-victimized by the officer that took my complaint.
What I can say, from personal experience, is to document, document, document – keep a running log of dates, times, incidents, visual identifications, and every detail that you can record. This also includes calls to report incidents with names of officers, dates, times, exact (PRECISE) quotes and responses. THEN, call the Internal Affairs office and explain your situation and that you are in fear for your life.
I don’t know about filing for a restraining order – it’s only just a piece of paper, after all.
BUT, speaking from personal experience, take this bull by the proverbial horns and contact the State Internal Affairs division. After I had made my complaint, I heard nothing and I continued to experience stalking and vehicluar tampering, etc….so, I rather “gave up” until Internal Affairs contacted me – apparently the officer that took my complaint and humiliated me had done the same thing to numerous other victims and someone had filed a complaint against him.
Brightest protective blessings to you.
Kathy: Truthspeak is right: keep logs as it will help you later on, if you need it. I wouldn’t stop doing anything necessary to protect myself. Stay strong and true to yourself. Empower yourself and remember who you are.
Dupey
Bumping this really useful article by the wonderful Steve Becker. BTW Dupey, if you see this, hope all’s well with you and that you are being left in peace by your stalker.