Lovefraud frequently receives e-mails and phone calls from people who are divorcing a sociopath and are afraid they’re going to get trashed in court. They know the sociopaths will lie—smoothly and convincingly—and are terrified that the manipulator will end up winning the money, the house, and custody of the kids.
If you’re facing family court battles with a sociopath, I recommend that you buy and read Splitting—Protecting Yourself While Divorcing a Borderline or Narcissist, by William A. Eddy. It may be the best $25 you ever spend.
Eddy, the author, is both a therapist (Licensed Clinical Social Worker) and an attorney. He understands the law, the courts and how people with personality disorders can manipulate them. You need to understand all of this as well.
The book explains the court process; the roles of attorneys, evaluators and other professionals; how to gather evidence; and generally what to expect.
Tactics and strategies
As the subtitle suggests, Splitting refers to people with borderline and narcissistic personality disorders, whom Eddy calls “persuasive blamers.” References to sociopaths are limited. Still, the tactics and strategies he suggests would be helpful in dealing with a sociopath as well.
One of Eddy’s main points is that you must be assertive right from the beginning of your case. The blamer may accuse you of infidelity, mental instability, child abuse or sexual misconduct—accusations which the court will take seriously. You must be prepared to respond to the accusations immediately. Once the court issues judgments and rulings—even if they are based on lies—it is very difficult to get them undone later.
Eddy discusses the importance of documentation, and how it can bolster your case. In fact, the book includes an interview with a man who aggressively gathered documentation to prove his wife’s pattern of behavior to the court evaluator. Four former husbands gave statements indicating that she had done the same things to them that she was doing to him.
Should you mention the disorder?
Eddy also has a chapter devoted to whether or not you should have an expert testify about the personality disorder. He recognizes the dilemma:
If you are too aggressive about raising this subject, the judge may be angry with you for seeming to attack someone’s personality.
Yet if the judge does not fully understand the personality dynamics beneath the surface, the court may misunderstand your case and get it backwards.
From my experience and the input of others, it appears best to gently present this information to the court, but not rely on it being accepted.
Eddy then outlines ways in which psychological information may be presented, and how it may affect the outcome of the case, even if it is not explicit in court rulings.
Splitting is available online from BPDCentral.com. If you’re going to family court against a sociopath, read this book.
Please let me see if you see any holes/gaps in what I am doing. I fully realize part of the learning process is to take other perspectives into consideration…
Dear My boys,
As far as the CHILD SUPPORT, you mightr actually be better off letting him “disappear” and doing without the money if it would KEEP HIM OUT OF YOUR AND YOUR KIDS’ LIVES.
Many times if they “abandon” the kids, and don’t pay support and./or visit with the kids, you can later (if you remarry) have your new husband adopt the “abandoned kids.”
My P-sperm donor never paid support and only visited me 1 x when I was about age 2 after my birth, and that was used to have the state declare me an “abandoned child” and my step father was able to legally adopt me. This “safeguarded” me from if my egg donor had died, my sperm donor could not have gotten custody of me.
Something to think about. Usually even if you get child support AWARDED Then YOU still have to figure out how to collect and they are so slippery you spend more trying to get the money than it may be worth, and many times a man trying to skip out on child support succeeds.
Just some things to think about.
EB I agree with you, you (we) must be PROACTIVE in these things or an attorney can make himself money just dragging their feet. Many times probate attorneys do this in a will contestation and so on. Get the realtives to fight and the sharks get the money! That may happen to me as well when the egg donor passes on, but I went and got some ADVICE NOW before it is needed from an attorney who didn’t charge me much ( he handled my husband’s estate) and the thing is that I know this guy is honest. He is retiring so I have to go retain another attorney in my county—my county is so “good old boy system crooked” that I wanted a recommendation of which CROOK to hire from someone who knew who had the power and who didn’t. I still haven’t gone for an appointment with the recommended crook yet, but will very soon. Want a PRE-NEED set up so I can POUNCE when the time comes.
Also have to be very careful that “word doesn’t get out” to my egg donor before this NEED is there either. When I took her to court before, WORD GOT TO HER before I got done with the FIRST appointment with my attorney (who BTW was a poor choice done in HASTE)
thanks again…writing it out helps me to process it but I have deleted the details…
I have a plan…I know where this is going and I am discovering it was a lot easier to get married than to get divorced.
Marry a lot more carefully next time if and when the opportunity presents itself;)
MyBoys:
This sounds more accurate.
It’s never as easy as it seems…..and this was the warning I wanted to give you last week…..about ‘new’ things coming up…..expect everything and take what you get….
Just when we think we ‘got it down’ and understand the process……something comes up.
DON”T LET THIS DISCOURAGE YOU……just expect anything.
I’m sure he will throw a cog in the wheel….but I hope not….but expect it….your dealing with a S……this is what they do!
If you go into it….spearheading the ‘prize’…..the end result…..remain focus and educatated, with every step…..then you’ll come off this ‘rollercoaster’ in good shape.
I think you should expect a longer timeline and the first thing i’d do is try to find him (covertly) and keep tabs on his location and any money he may be making….
HOWEVER you can achieve this…..
Service is your NEXT PRIORITY….to move things along…..
Ya wanna see him sweat……get him served wherever he is hiding out……this drives my s CRAZY…..I alwyas know where he’s at…..because I made connections and get fed info.
I also hunted him down personally at times….did drivebyes, out of state etc….WAY ERIN BROCKOVICH style……
Until I’m done legally with him…..I’ll keep tabs on him……until the TPO is up….I’ll keep tabs on him……I wanna know when he’s gonna be in town…..for safety AND service reasons…..
Y0ou otta see their faces when you have em served at a friends house in ‘ eastern Istanbul’……it freaks them out…..
Mine was convinced I had a PI on him full time for years…..uh, yeah….that’ll teach em to discount us! he never gave me credit for being savvy!
As far as CS….I’d get an order…default if needed….then report ALL unpaid support immediately to the DA’s office , or whoever collects in your state. You might not get anything right away…..but it NEVER goes away…..so later on down the line. IF YOU SO CHOOSE….you can go after any assets……
Don’t expect payments…..but If I remember right….your youngest is 13 or 14 ish…..so you don’t have many years left……
It’s just another layer….
Typically, these guys, when they know the kids don’t want em…they will go away and reappear after 18…..because it’s YOUR FAULT they don’t like me…..you’ve poisoned them against me….yadayada…..
and if he doesn’t have money to fight in court…..or any smarts….he’ll go away……
He will use his family….so expect that too. Play them if you have to.
Play the ‘little woman’ if your cabable….Don’t dog the S…..to them….it won’t behoove you….you’ll never get them on ‘yourside’……so just play em to gain information.
And use it as you need to …..BUT REMAIN UNEMOTIONAL and kepe your cards covered…..Play counter control and remain in that mode throughout the process……NO EMOTIONS……business only.
So…..get on it girl…..the only thing that will hold you back is service. So…..hunt him down…..but COVERTLY!!!
Use cash…..Keep cash……keep all receipts…keep all kids expenses in separate binder…..expensed out.
Also….If your car is registered in Jane Doe OR John Doe….go get the title in you name only NOW…..
If not….get the docs from the DMV ready to be served after the vehicle is awarded to you.
Do YOU have the title?
You wouldn’t by chance had a POWER OF ATTORNEY signed by him would you?
Does he have health insurance under your policy still? You can keep tabs on him this way too…..where he visits dr’s….get the records through the ins. co.
And that’s the way it is!!:)
GOOD!!!
You sound strong….KeEp it up…..and geterdone!!!
Morning all…little help….I am going thru the divorce proceedings now I filed back in march of 09…I fell back in to her trap several times…I have been fair and honest…with my attorney…S has worked for attorneys since Ive know her she is cunning ,clever and has not been straight with her attorney of course(her atty was a camel jockey in a circus ) no really! they are dragging this out…her atty is feeding her crap and she is feeding her atty crap….I have to go to court 2moro(april fools day) for a motion to delay more because atty hasnt had time for discovery…it been a year…Im hoping the judge will rule in our favor the trial is set for APRIL 19th….help ..going to talk to a therapist today…hope fully he can help me …I feel like Ive been hit with a 4 x 4 right sg n the frontal lobe…I not sleeping well…or thinking as clearly as I normally do…help pleas…thank you to all!!!!
hman,
Divorce is a legal process for seperating the essntially business and legal aspects of marriage. The decisions are based on a fain discovery and division of assets.
The negotiations must be based on facts to be acceptable to a judge.
So, stick to facts. Stay close to YOUR attorney and remember that most of the he said/she said that goes on has very little to do with the negotiations.
The basis for any of the stuff that is worrying you ins positioning to negotiate for property settlement and financial assets.
At the bottom line, its a business negotiation.
If you have been fair and honest with your attorney and consistently worked from facts which are proveable, then you have the upper hand.
Stick with the facts. Keep your pencil sharp on the numbers and stay close to your attorney. Let them do the negotiationg if your are shaken emotionally. Its what you are paying them for! And they know the ins and outs of the law better.
What governs divorce is the assets and income. The divorce is going to divide them between you. It will make no judgement about her character. However, any failure to disclose or untrue information about the assets and income won’t be regarded highly by the judge.
I understand the hit by the 4X4 and most of us here have shared that experience. Don’t let the way you feel throw you for a loop. Its normal to be nervous and feel distressed.
Therapy is a GREAT IDEA. Let us know how that goes for you, I hope it helps. It has been good for me in the past when I was really distressed.
Sleep helps too! That’s a biggie! If your sleep is off, don’t forget to use excercise a walk? as a way to help yourself get centered.
Mst of all, as simple as it sounds- don’t forget to breathe deeply, ground yourself and BE HERE NOW.
We’ll be right here.