Lovefraud frequently receives e-mails and phone calls from people who are divorcing a sociopath and are afraid they’re going to get trashed in court. They know the sociopaths will lie—smoothly and convincingly—and are terrified that the manipulator will end up winning the money, the house, and custody of the kids.
If you’re facing family court battles with a sociopath, I recommend that you buy and read Splitting—Protecting Yourself While Divorcing a Borderline or Narcissist, by William A. Eddy. It may be the best $25 you ever spend.
Eddy, the author, is both a therapist (Licensed Clinical Social Worker) and an attorney. He understands the law, the courts and how people with personality disorders can manipulate them. You need to understand all of this as well.
The book explains the court process; the roles of attorneys, evaluators and other professionals; how to gather evidence; and generally what to expect.
Tactics and strategies
As the subtitle suggests, Splitting refers to people with borderline and narcissistic personality disorders, whom Eddy calls “persuasive blamers.” References to sociopaths are limited. Still, the tactics and strategies he suggests would be helpful in dealing with a sociopath as well.
One of Eddy’s main points is that you must be assertive right from the beginning of your case. The blamer may accuse you of infidelity, mental instability, child abuse or sexual misconduct—accusations which the court will take seriously. You must be prepared to respond to the accusations immediately. Once the court issues judgments and rulings—even if they are based on lies—it is very difficult to get them undone later.
Eddy discusses the importance of documentation, and how it can bolster your case. In fact, the book includes an interview with a man who aggressively gathered documentation to prove his wife’s pattern of behavior to the court evaluator. Four former husbands gave statements indicating that she had done the same things to them that she was doing to him.
Should you mention the disorder?
Eddy also has a chapter devoted to whether or not you should have an expert testify about the personality disorder. He recognizes the dilemma:
If you are too aggressive about raising this subject, the judge may be angry with you for seeming to attack someone’s personality.
Yet if the judge does not fully understand the personality dynamics beneath the surface, the court may misunderstand your case and get it backwards.
From my experience and the input of others, it appears best to gently present this information to the court, but not rely on it being accepted.
Eddy then outlines ways in which psychological information may be presented, and how it may affect the outcome of the case, even if it is not explicit in court rulings.
Splitting is available online from BPDCentral.com. If you’re going to family court against a sociopath, read this book.
Silvermoon, sweetheart, just want to give you a hug, a Hi 5, and a stiff scotch! All at once. you can do this gal!
Just remember, THIS TOO SHALL PASS> And when its a ll over you still have an intact soul a brilliant mind, and a great wit, to name just 3 of your attributes.! The spath, on th other hand, will NEVER have a soul,is doomed for Dantes seventh circle of Hades.{Or rather Inferno in Latin!} hang tough girl!
Praying for you!
Hows the cyber scotch? Single malt OK with you?
Love, and {{HUGS!!}}, Mama gem.XXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXX
Too bad this advice came about 13 years too late for me and my children. If I’d only known then what I know now, things would have worked out much, much different than they did.
Silvermoon, you’re doing the best that you can and, at the very least, managing legal issues with a spath is one of the most difficult challenges that we have to face.
You are “allowed” to feel anger, rage, and all of the rest. But, it’s important to remember that there’s a fine line between acknowledging the frustration and getting sucked further down into that emotional cesspool that the spath has created.
A very, very good suggestion above was to use that angry energy to your advantage! Anger is a very powerful energy and a lot can get accomplished by focusing on one task at a time. I used to have to write out a list of tasks that needed attention, and work through each one, individually.
With regard to your attorney, HE/SHE is on your payroll and you have the option of firing him/her and hiring another attorney who is familiar with sociopathic behavior. The suggestions made were very sound and they will not only help in cutting the attorney fees, but provide you with tasks to accomplish. Draining our resources is one of the worst aspects of legal proceedings. I lost both of my sons to my ex because I simply ran out of resources, and the legal system isn’t interested in the flaming hoops that we are forced to jump through.
As geminigirl aptly stated, this too shall pass. Right now, this whole situation seems so overwhelming that it’s just too much to bear. If you have to say it aloud, remember that this is just temporary. Keep posting, keep venting, and use that angry energy to your advantage. Don’t be afraid to be assertive – “assertiveness” isn’t the same a bullying. And, don’t be afraid to tell your attorney that you want a comlpete inventory of his/her services to date, along with the accompnaying fees.
You’re in my positive thoughts and prayers, silvermoon. Remember, the best revenge is to live a happy, productive life – something that the spath will never, ever experience.
Brightest blessings.
Hey LF,major difficulties with soon to S she is bringing out all the bad things ,she has overwhelmed me with paper for the courts …saying things that r not true ,asking about evrything, she knows about some of my skeletons in the closet!! so she is bringing these things out …my attorney blasted back..just got more shit back, she is relentless,persistant and is hell bent bound and determined to crush me anyway she can… it seems to be working ..really has me alomost shutting down..I MUST KEEP fighting…there is so much more to say..tuff day yesterday..went to a friends funeral/memorial when i signed the book it hit hard ..I just put my name..really tuff..it was a realization that she was not there and that seemed to hurt and upset me left there had to pull over and balled like a baby!!!Each time we go back with something to her attorney, they come back with more paperwork an she knows what this is doing to me…I am not a good records keeper..she has everything ..the first check she wrote after we got married…need answers ..please help!
Hman,
Your attorney has the right to ask her for every scrap of paper or record there is as process of discovery. You have to go through it with fine tooth comb but they can ask for everything. Sounds like you have an active discovery process.
Skeletons in the closet? Better make sure your attorney knows them ALL before hers finds them.
Best defense if offense. Get legal advice from a good attny and FOLLOW IT.
HMan:
Okay dear…..I’m gonna be tough…..
DIVORCE IS NEVER EASY……and tactics involved are harsh…..and we exploit our former partners in the process…..
DIVORCE IS WAR…….you don’t hold the ‘enemy’s’ hand during war, you don’t offer bandaids……you BLAST away….for keeps!
I’m a bit surprised your so low….at this stage in the game….
and if your gonna make it though……your gonna have to pick up your balls and separate your emotions OUT OF THE PROCESS!
Your gonna have to learn to be organized and NOT let anything get to ya.
She’s trying to break you……
Everything she ‘knows’ about you…….CHANGE…..become good at paperwork…LEARN how to organize and file….by the schoool of hard knocks….LEARN IT, DO IT, and chaulk it off your list of ‘bothers’ or Im not good at’s…..cuz there is a lot in life you may not be good at……BUT YOUR SINGLE NOW….and YOUR GONNA HAVE TO DO THINGS FOR YOURSELF!!!!!
This is very empowering.
I think this
attitude your sharing is the same one which may have lead you to this ‘place’.
If I recall, you were not single long after your wifes passing……
I think you look to be rescued……
It didn’t work for you, and I highly suggest……you reevalueate your romanticized thinking, spend time learning aobut YOU and learn to take care of YOURSELF and your own emotions……
You can’t look at everything in a ‘romantic’ nostalgic manner……because if signing a memorial guestbook’s gonna getcha…….dude….your in for a long mind game here……
She knows your weaknesses…..she’s gonna exploit every single one of them…….MAKE THEM A FORMER WEAKNESS and prepare for the war!!!!
If your in discovery……you have only just begun. DOn’t wait for it, the requests to come it……send it all. Be proactive.
Change your approach.
Yes…..Skeletons……I suggest you have a long chat and reveal ALL of them to your attorney…..
You pay your attorney to spin….and if he doesn’t know what to spin…..he can’t spin.
This is hard because your gonna have to admit them ‘out loud’…….
Your attorney won’t judge you……he’ll give you advice and deal with any of it as it comes up.
I will tell you my ex kept it all a secret…….and his attornies fired him, then the last one was made a fool of in court.
A FOOL……and this hindered his case 100%.
#1~ You MUST be honest with your attorney…..if you think it’ll come up…..disclose it to attorney!!!!!!!
Good luck…..YOU CAN DO THIS!!!!
XXOO
EB
Dear Harmony man,
Sorry things are going to be really nasty, but that is the way it goes with a psychopath.
Now, I agree with ErinB, whatever your skeletons in the closet, from robbing a bank to messing around, TELL your attorney.
Then, tell him to quit being a pussy and GO ON THE ATTACK, there is nothing to win by just being defensive. I am sure she must ahve some skelletons in the closet too.
First off, you married this woman straight after your late wife died….have your attorney use that as an “excuse” of why she was able to take advantage of the poor heartbroken bloke. less than a year after my husband died I got involved with a psychopath looking for a “respectable” wife to keep his harem off his back.. His previous wife had finally caught him, and kicked him out, now all his GFs wanted to get married so he was in a rush to get married to me, so he could keep the “tramps” content with just the affairs. I had been so lonely and needy I just opened the door and let him into my heart. Fortunately he couldn’t stop cheating untiil he got me married, and I found out what he was doing. It broke my heart for months. Thank God I didn’t also have to divorce him.
Now put your big-boy boots on and get out there and stomp her butt! GO GET’ER COWBOY!!!!
Hman…I agree with above posts. You are romanticizing pain.
Pony up with the attorney. You are in for the fight of your life. She will play it all dirty and you best be prepared.
No crying, you are NOT a victim but she will stomp you if you keep thinking you are. Get angry or whatever it takes to fight.Secrets are toxic and she will use them to poison you.
His previous wife had finally caught him, and kicked him out, now all his GFs wanted to get married so he was in a rush to get married to me, so he could keep the “tramps” content with just the affairs. I had been so lonely and needy I just opened the door and let him into my heart. Fortunately he couldn’t stop cheating untiil he got me married, and I found out what he was doing. It broke my heart for months. Thank God I didn’t also have to divorce him
Well Hell OX, I KNOW THAT STORY TOO! WoW! Only difference is I didn’t find out until after we Married. Fortunately, he forgot to get divorced in his hurry!
Silver, well at least eventually your “marriage” will be null and VOID. I think at that critical point if I had been married to him I can’t imagine what it would have done to me emotionally., It hurt bad enough as it was!
But I’m rid of him and didn’t step into that BEAR TRAP and have to chew my leg off to get out!
Harmony Man, the tears for your friend are natural sadness, but Flower is right, you need to get ROARING MAD and activate your FIGHT sense! Don’t get so mad it blinds you to the truth, but DO GET ANGRY enough to DEFEND yourself with an aggressive stance. Good luck!