by Quinn Pierce
Today, after a trip to the psychologist with my children, I watched my ex-husband run to open the door for a very pregnant woman who looked extremely tired in the day’s intense heat. She immediately broke out into a grateful smile, her whole body relaxed, and I could see the combination of the cool air conditioning and the sweet gesture of this gentleman turned her whole day around.
But for me, it was like watching a car accident in slow motion. I was all at once sick and mesmerized by what I saw. I know it doesn’t sound like much of an incident to cause such a reaction, but it was so typical, and predictable, and”¦calculated. And that’s when I realized why it was so difficult to try to explain to other people what it was, exactly, that was so ”˜terrible’ about this man.
The Chameleon
He always portrays himself as the perfect (whatever the situation calls for). He can read people, anticipate what they need. He is the perfect chameleon at any social gathering. He could be at a dinner party one day praising new government reform, for example, and then stand on the sideline of a soccer game complaining about the very same policies- and with conviction each time.
I still don’t think, to this day, that he has ever had his own opinions about anything. He doesn’t need them; he only needs to know how to blend in, fit in, and be well liked by others. Even if he doesn’t like the people he’s joining arms with, it doesn’t matter, as long as he can paint himself likeable in their eyes.
Playing His Game
I used to watch him flip his alliances from person to person and think it was because he was insecure. It annoyed me, but to be honest, I learned how to use it to my advantage. I could get him to agree to things in front of other people that I knew he would refuse if it were just me asking him.
For example, he was against our child taking medication to treat depression, so I brought it up at a dinner party where there were doctors that I knew approved of treating children with medication. By the end of dinner, he was encouraging me to make an appointment. I didn’t care if he thought it was his idea, as long as my child could get treatment. In a sense, I was playing his game, but to my advantage…so I thought.
The Set-Up
I didn’t realize how well planned this strategy was until we separated. All of a sudden, I found myself trying to explain a reality that only I saw. Friends, family, acquaintances, they all saw the persona he had presented over the years. I, on the other hand, was a very private person, and I learned quickly that being private was not a trait that would serve me well in the eyes of onlookers. What’s worse, not only was he cultivating his identity, but he was slowly planting seeds of my proposed ”˜instability’ and ”˜mental illness’.
He constantly told me I was crazy when we argued; apparently, he was describing me as being mentally unstable to family and friends, as well. I actually received several phone calls from ”˜concerned’ family members asking me what medication I was taking and who my councilor was, because they thought they should call her and check in to tell her about my actions. I was stunned. My husband knew I was finally strong enough to leave him, and this was his way of turning my life upside down and taking away my credibility in the public eye.
Feeling Isolated
I had very little support from family or friends when I went forward with my divorce. That was a totally separate grief process for me. I felt as though I had been stripped of my identity. My family actually helped him move, found him an apartment, and continued to interact with him on a friendly level. I was chastised for getting upset- after all, I was the one who kicked him out and ruined his life. It was nearly too much for me to bear at times.
It has taken me years to figure out how he was able to present himself as a compassionate, empathetic person, a caring and loving father, and a respectable member of society. I certainly believed he was all of these things for much of our marriage. But I eventually could see through this façade, why couldn’t anyone else?
Playing The Part of The Perfect”¦
I think the answer is quite simple, actually. He may not be capable of feeling certain emotions, but he is acutely aware of what behaviors represent these emotions. He knows exactly what society deems respectable, kind, considerate, etc. He understands what characteristics make a man seem like a great father. He can play the role without meaning any of it.
That is why he will show up at every doctor’s visit for the children, every school conference, every sporting event. For him, it’s essential. Plus, he enjoys it; he loves the attention. In reality, I could probably write down every significant statement he’s ever made at all these appointments combined on one sticky note.
In other words, he’s just there for show. But not only that, he wants to make sure I am not defaming him in any way. He often accuses me of embarrassing him, setting him up, or manipulating him when I say something that contradicts him. He’s found it much easier to not say anything at all these days.
Today’s appointment was no exception. We did a complete overhaul of my child’s medication after years of trying different things with adverse effects. My son cried, my other child hugged him and sat next to him the whole time. I was asking desperate questions and trying to make sense of the options versus the side effects. The only input my ex-husband had during the entire appointment was small talk about chewing gum.
A New Reality
And so, when we left the appointment, and he ran to open the door with his fake sincerity, it made my skin crawl. But when one of my children turned to give me a raised eyebrow and a smirk, I realized it didn’t matter what the outside world thought about my ex-husband or me.
My children are also able to see him for what he is. My decision to divorce this man is giving my children an opportunity to grow and strengthen in a healthy environment. I don’t need to ”˜prove’ his real character to anyone. I only need to continue being myself: a woman who is getting stronger by the day, and a mother who is helping her children do the same.
Hi Slim, thank you so much for your encouragement and support. I’m happy to be here.
I think your story is such a perfect example of the underlying factors that healthy people don’t consider when making decisions.
First he was jealous, and probably suspicious, I know my ex always had to have a hand in everything i did, not because he was supporting me, but because he could keep an eye out.
Then his ego was hurt and he had to show you up and say he found someone more talented that suited his ability. It’s comical, really, that he would enter an arena so out of his area of interest, but then they are so invasive, it’s not so surprising.
I like the ‘awareness’ idea, it’s spot on.
Thanks for the warm welcome 🙂
Quinn
alive65,
Firstly, that ER visit sounds like a nightmare! And I am really glad you are still alive!!!! I got those kinds of questions too…. ‘why would he do that, what would he get out of it?’ It really doesn’t make sense unless you have either been there and done it, or have intimate knowledge of personality disorders.
Hard to explain to those who don’t get it, that it’s about winning. Most people don’t think of it as a win if they destroy someone else. But try explaining that to anyone who is really in the dark on this subject.
A bunch of co-workers, who I tried to confide in, just ended up thinking I was on drugs or something, so I ended up leaving my job because it was too stressful to try and work through the pain without any support there.
I found this was the very best place (LF) to be validated and listened to. Love Fraud really saved my life….Slim
Slim and alive65,
Your stories resonate with me on many levels. A normal person cannot comprehend the ‘paranoid sounding’ scenarios. I learned very quickly that I had to find my strength and support within myself, which is why it took me so long to divorce him. I knew I was up against the disapproval of everyone around me, so I had to be confident enough to say (and it’s still my mantra, I say it several times a day and when i run in to people I haven’t seen in a while): I did what I needed to do to be healthy and to keep my children healthy.
People want to know interesting details- did someone cheat, were they in debt, who was using drugs, etc. They are not satisfied by ‘wanting to be healthy’ so they are quick to believe the spath’s stories of mental instability, and everything else they can cook up. You are so right about the spath just wanting to win by destroying others. It’s a control issue as much as anything.
Mine said he would rather run the businesses into the ground than give me anything he didn’t think I deserved (which was anything at all, even though I was his partner in the businesses)
If a partner were to commit suicide, the spath wins by playing puppet master and by gaining the sympathy and attention for their ‘loss’. It is not something that can easily be explained.
I’m so glad all three of us found this site
Quinn
Quinn…
When I sold my home to my ex spath, for whatever reason at closing, my escrow payment was not there. When I asked about it, I was told his real estate attorney had it and we’d have to get it from him.
Forward about a month as I had almost forgotten about it. When I mentioned it to him, he told me, “hell could freeze over before he’d release those funds to me”. Well, that’s all I needed to hear. I fought like hell but got it a few weeks later. There is no way he was going to get what was legally owed me….I simply was not going to let that happen.
Long story short, I got the money. He made it difficult, but I was tenacious!
Stay strong my friends….
carolann
Thanks carolann,
I had a similar experience after our divorce decree was signed, he decided he’d “given me enough” and wasn’t going to finish paying. Tried all sorts of threats, but I held strong and finally he had to pay me. It was stressful, but, like you said, stay strong everyone”
Quinn
I am currently in divorce proceedings from my extreme narcissistic sociopath husband. My life has become a nightmare from hell. I was also called psycho bitch, mental case and even baker acted here in Florida.(Involuntarily sent to a mental institution). What made it extremely difficult for me was that my soon to be ex husband is Deputy Sheriff. I was fortunate that the psychiatrist on duty recognized right away that I was manipulated and sent there for the wrong reasons and therefore was released right away. My husband tole my 17 year old child to be prepared for me being locked away for a long time because of my so called mental illness. I finally found the courage to file for a divorce following the advise of an aggressive attorney. With his help and my faith in God I will find the strength to fight this evil man. I will come out stronger and better. I know that. I never deserved to be lied to, betrayed and cheated on and then being told I was too fat, too ugly , too boring as a wife. I was told I don’t look the same I did 20 years ago and he needed new narcissistic supply. My child and I were just thrown away like trash. He left one evening and took all the money and moved out. His claim was he had to leave because of my mental status. Was I emotional? Absolutely I was devastated to find out that he was having an affair with a co worker after being married for 20 years. Of course I was to blame for this, as I did not meet his certain expectations any longer. He has no empathy or feelings and emotions. I am finally realizing that I was married to a Sociopath who had no friends and wanted to manipulate everyone around him. Since his departure I am feeling so much better. I am finally free. I don’t have to worry about being labeled mental or crazy any longer. I know I have the fight of my life ahead of me, but I am prepared. I will stand up for myself and my child and will do the best I can. This game is over for him. He can find another victim. 20 years of my life was way too long to waste on an empty soul who only cares about one thing in his life. Himself.
Also I forgot to mention that my husband always told me I would be better of dead. This way he would not have to pay me half of his Army retirement in a divorce. Most people never believe what an evil person he is. In public he portrays himself as a caring, loving husband and father. Behind closed doors he would yell and scream in his Drill Sergeant voice at me and my child. Everything was my fault. Even when an appliance or a vehicle broke, I was to blame. He never once apologized for his outburst. He enjoyed when I was crying uncontrollable, sitting and hiding in a closet with him standing over me and telling me how worthless of a wife I am. I suffered from extreme hypertension and was admitted to the hospitals many times. I am so thankful to have found the courage to put an end to this. I owe it to my child to get this man out of my life. The day I found naked pictures of him on our home computer, which he exchanged with his female coworker (20 years younger than him), I stopped feeling any love for this man. I wanted to give him a second chance, but he kept on lying and betraying. Not only to me but also to his child. Not one single emotion when he told my son a blatant lie. I am now separated for almost 6 months. The first few weeks were difficult and slowly I am gaining strength. My advise to anyone going through something similar is DO NOT CONTACT him, ever. Stay away, ignore his calls, emails and texts. They just want to get a reaction out of you and ignoring them equals defeating them. One thing a Sociopath absolutely dislikes is being ignored. Because they put themselves above God. The only emotions they can show is anger. I have learned this in the past 20 years. I am almost 50 years old but I hope that I will recover from this. I know I did not deserve this and that it was never my fault to be treated like that. No matter how much blame he puts on me, I know that I am in a better place now. No material possession or marital status is worth living in an emotional devastating situation.
Kaya, I too stayed for 28 years!!! I agree… there is not enough money in this world that would make staying with a disordered person worthwhile. I too am over 50 and can attest to the fact that we can heal and grow from our experiences. In fact I now believe that our experiences were put in our life journey so we could learn the big life lessons we needed to learn! Stay strong in your resolve to grow and protect your child…They lie like they breathe….Slimone is right. You are NEVER too old to learn!!!
Kaya48,
We are NEVER too old to awaken and heal. I am SO very sorry for the long nightmare your marriage must certainly have been. And for the divorce you are faced with.
It is always the right time to leave a sociopath, and cut all contact possible. I hope you can feel some genuine pride and accomplishment for having done it!
I also hope you will keep coming to love fraud (or somewhere safe and informative and supportive). I’ve said it a hundred times that learning about personality disorders and finding sites like this one absolutely saved my life.
I found Kathleen Hawk’s articles on the healing process were really inspiring and validating. She is listed as an author on this site. I have been sociopath free going on 6 years now and I still refer to many of her articles, either for myself or for other’s who need support.
I never had to get a divorce from any of the abusers/losers/users I dated, but there are plenty of folks here who did, or are. Plus, looking through the archived articles may give you some suggestions for communication, etc….
Take good care of yourself,
Slim
Kaya48 ”“ welcome to Lovefraud. I am very sorry for your ordeal ”“ and yes, 20 years is a very long time. But now you see what he really is, and you can do what you need to do for yourself and your child. Stay strong. We have many articles here that may help you.
Reading this thread is helping me prepare for divorce proceedings.Spath and I have been separated (though not legally)for 11 monthes.I feel the divorce is necessary to protect me from financial liabilities. Spath hates paying bills in full.He already owes $1,100.
Another reason I feel I need to seek a divorce is because spath has always loved having control.I’m so tired of hearing him refer to me as “his wife” nearly a year after I left him;he never treated me like a wife! I always felt like a bondswoman!
hi blossom4th-
I would say keep track of everything he pays (and doesn’t pay) My lawyer had me keep a list of all expenses and I tried to make sure I used a method of payment that I could show (ie cancelled checks, online from my account without his name on it)
Control is a big part of the spath personality. Stay strong, and good for you for reclaiming your life and doing what you need to do to be healthy.
Quinn
I did the same thing. I kept track of every damn cent that psycho owed me from borrowing or from his share of the bills. I kept a spreadsheet of it all. when it was court time, I cross-referenced my spreadsheet with bank statements to prove it was real. I entered it as evidence from the very beginning so they couldn’t say I made it up on the fly. I told the court that he was aware that I kept track from day one. I ended up being awarded $65,000 in judgements against him. He couldn’t fight it as I had all the proof ready to go. I doubt I’ll ever see the money as he’s now declaring bankruptcy but I’m going to see what I can do….if it’s a result of fraud, it can’t be erased by bankruptcy…and I will try my darndest to prove it was fraud. 🙂 He is going to hate me more than he already does…LOL
I have been divorced from a sociopath for 6 months. The emotional cost to my children is devastating, and the financial costs to all of us is overwhelming. Throughout the divorce he fought everything, causing my legal fees to escalate–and due to his secret debt and irresponsible behavior we already had enormous debt. To top it off, my attorney (very well-known and competent) had not had experience with an spath before, so it took over a year for her to begin to get the true picture. I had the horrible experience of divorcing a sociopath while also often being at odds with my own attorney.
Since the divorce I have managed to protect my youngest child, who is just 17. (The 2 older have figured their father out, and do not see him.) Here’s the part that is SO typical: My 17-year-old plays football for his high school. My ex used to be perceived as a great, involved father (HA! And I did perpetuate that image, before I knew exactly what he was.) Since the divorce my ex has scammed the school re: paying tuition. He has threatened to pull my son out of school if I don’t comply with some of his demands. He has threatened to get support reduced if I turn him in for the embezzlement and tax fraud I found out about. Well, I did, and he is taking me to court. I also informed parents that I discovered he is a porn addict, and was on sites about TEEN GIRLS. But GUESS WHAT??!! He is at the football games as the STAT MAN, yucking it up with the coaches. And not for my son–who didn’t even know he was there. He was there to be able to be the false persona–“caring Sports Dad”–that he used to project before all was found out.
The naivete of the coaches and some of my school acquaintances hurts and bothers me. But my ex has now been fired by one client for embezzling (he is a serial embezzler) and will likely by indicted for tax fraud. I guess everyone will figure it out then. But in the meantime, he’s going to play it to the end! And, of course, my children and I will suffer financially, and emotionally. I could, of course, go on and on. The last 2 years have been horrifying, but eye-opening. Best of luck to all who are divorcing–or have divorced–a sociopath.
LL Mequon – welcome to Lovefraud. What you described is so typical of sociopathic behavior – it’s all about impression management. Well, if he’s going to be indicted, that will change the impression. I hope it happens.
LL Mequon-
Thank you for reading my article; I had a very similar experience with the school situation. My xspath pretended to be the most supportive father and agreed that keeping my boys in their school was paramount to their emotional stability. As soon as the divorce started, he refused to pay and I would have had to pull them from the only school they ever knew if the school hadn’t stepped up and given my boys scholarships while giving me complete control of their educational decisions. Can you believe he still shows up for events and teacher conferences? I’m so glad you wrote these comments, it reminds me of so many incidents, I’ll have to write about some, as well.
Quinn
I began my divorce February of 2008. He would not negotiate , we went to trial, then he appealed it. The appellate court upheld the first judges verdict. Which is great, but now my xspath will not pay up or sign house deeds over. nothing…. His attorney is not answering phone calls. We have filed contempt charges. It is really bad. There are so many things I see in these articles that describe him to the T! His kids do not speak to him – Thank god, they have sense. This has been going on in court and paying attorneys fees for six years. IT is horrible. Legal fees are out of this world. It is very hard to get divorced from a rich psychopath. I feel as if Im drowning sometimes and can not get rid of his filth. I have a great attorney, buy the way. The legal system definately has a role in my divorce.
kingrace2012,
I can relate to the ‘drowning’ feeling. It often feels like a never ending battle, but I have to remember to really look back and see how far I’ve come and how much I’ve overcome. Thanks for the comments and for sharing your experience, there really is a great deal of similarity among the spath personalities and behaviors, I agree.
Quinn
Thank you so much for the encouraging comments. I am thankful that I found this helpful website. I am prepared for an ugly divorce as he is already claiming that everything is his. No matter how difficult this time will be I am indeed proud of myself for serving him divorce papers. I know they like to be in control and he wanted to be the one filing for divorce first. Since he is a deputy sheriff he decided to file a restraining order for domestic violence against me. For what he was not sure. I guess just to aggravate me. My attorney got this injunction dismissed in a court hearing as it was based on false allegations . It is unbelievable how a person you once loved becomes your number one enemy. And yes most of them are addicted to porn. My husband was definitely a porn addict. Not only I diagnosed him as a narcissistic sociopath . A marriage counselor felt the same way. He did not show any remorse or sorrow for cheating on his wife. Instead he said I should get over it and never mention it again. I also realize bus that they will never change because they think they are perfect. I should have got out of this marriage a long time ago. His only don refuses to talk to him. His father was suppose to set an example and not act like some sex crazy porn addict. Losing his family especially his child is the reality he is facing now. But I was wondering if the sociopath can feel that pain? I am not sure .
Hi kaya48,
I find with my xspath he feels the pain of losing his precious image and having people think he is not the wonderful father he pretends to be, but not actual pain of any human connections or emotions. My children are still part of his social status, he doesn’t make any decisions that are strictly for their well being unless it coincides with his own benefits. Oh, so many topics to write about, what will I write next? LOL
And I love the ‘get over it and never mention it again’ – unless of course it’s something I did wrong that will be brought up over and over.
Quinn
kaya48,
I suspect my husband looks at porn.I know he did in the past.I’ve always heard it’s a hard habit to break.He’s never made the changes he “supposeably” made.
When he first started going to craigslist,it was to look at cars and trucks and other such ads.His browsing on the website didn’t bother me,as it meant less demands on my time.But then one day he beckoned me to show me something.He had been on craigslist,so I expected to see a car.I had no idea he had been looking at their personal ads!What he showed me was pics guys had taken of themselves!Yech!I could have thrown up!I turned around and walked away-FAST!