by Quinn Pierce
Today, after a trip to the psychologist with my children, I watched my ex-husband run to open the door for a very pregnant woman who looked extremely tired in the day’s intense heat. She immediately broke out into a grateful smile, her whole body relaxed, and I could see the combination of the cool air conditioning and the sweet gesture of this gentleman turned her whole day around.
But for me, it was like watching a car accident in slow motion. I was all at once sick and mesmerized by what I saw. I know it doesn’t sound like much of an incident to cause such a reaction, but it was so typical, and predictable, and”¦calculated. And that’s when I realized why it was so difficult to try to explain to other people what it was, exactly, that was so ”˜terrible’ about this man.
The Chameleon
He always portrays himself as the perfect (whatever the situation calls for). He can read people, anticipate what they need. He is the perfect chameleon at any social gathering. He could be at a dinner party one day praising new government reform, for example, and then stand on the sideline of a soccer game complaining about the very same policies- and with conviction each time.
I still don’t think, to this day, that he has ever had his own opinions about anything. He doesn’t need them; he only needs to know how to blend in, fit in, and be well liked by others. Even if he doesn’t like the people he’s joining arms with, it doesn’t matter, as long as he can paint himself likeable in their eyes.
Playing His Game
I used to watch him flip his alliances from person to person and think it was because he was insecure. It annoyed me, but to be honest, I learned how to use it to my advantage. I could get him to agree to things in front of other people that I knew he would refuse if it were just me asking him.
For example, he was against our child taking medication to treat depression, so I brought it up at a dinner party where there were doctors that I knew approved of treating children with medication. By the end of dinner, he was encouraging me to make an appointment. I didn’t care if he thought it was his idea, as long as my child could get treatment. In a sense, I was playing his game, but to my advantage…so I thought.
The Set-Up
I didn’t realize how well planned this strategy was until we separated. All of a sudden, I found myself trying to explain a reality that only I saw. Friends, family, acquaintances, they all saw the persona he had presented over the years. I, on the other hand, was a very private person, and I learned quickly that being private was not a trait that would serve me well in the eyes of onlookers. What’s worse, not only was he cultivating his identity, but he was slowly planting seeds of my proposed ”˜instability’ and ”˜mental illness’.
He constantly told me I was crazy when we argued; apparently, he was describing me as being mentally unstable to family and friends, as well. I actually received several phone calls from ”˜concerned’ family members asking me what medication I was taking and who my councilor was, because they thought they should call her and check in to tell her about my actions. I was stunned. My husband knew I was finally strong enough to leave him, and this was his way of turning my life upside down and taking away my credibility in the public eye.
Feeling Isolated
I had very little support from family or friends when I went forward with my divorce. That was a totally separate grief process for me. I felt as though I had been stripped of my identity. My family actually helped him move, found him an apartment, and continued to interact with him on a friendly level. I was chastised for getting upset- after all, I was the one who kicked him out and ruined his life. It was nearly too much for me to bear at times.
It has taken me years to figure out how he was able to present himself as a compassionate, empathetic person, a caring and loving father, and a respectable member of society. I certainly believed he was all of these things for much of our marriage. But I eventually could see through this façade, why couldn’t anyone else?
Playing The Part of The Perfect”¦
I think the answer is quite simple, actually. He may not be capable of feeling certain emotions, but he is acutely aware of what behaviors represent these emotions. He knows exactly what society deems respectable, kind, considerate, etc. He understands what characteristics make a man seem like a great father. He can play the role without meaning any of it.
That is why he will show up at every doctor’s visit for the children, every school conference, every sporting event. For him, it’s essential. Plus, he enjoys it; he loves the attention. In reality, I could probably write down every significant statement he’s ever made at all these appointments combined on one sticky note.
In other words, he’s just there for show. But not only that, he wants to make sure I am not defaming him in any way. He often accuses me of embarrassing him, setting him up, or manipulating him when I say something that contradicts him. He’s found it much easier to not say anything at all these days.
Today’s appointment was no exception. We did a complete overhaul of my child’s medication after years of trying different things with adverse effects. My son cried, my other child hugged him and sat next to him the whole time. I was asking desperate questions and trying to make sense of the options versus the side effects. The only input my ex-husband had during the entire appointment was small talk about chewing gum.
A New Reality
And so, when we left the appointment, and he ran to open the door with his fake sincerity, it made my skin crawl. But when one of my children turned to give me a raised eyebrow and a smirk, I realized it didn’t matter what the outside world thought about my ex-husband or me.
My children are also able to see him for what he is. My decision to divorce this man is giving my children an opportunity to grow and strengthen in a healthy environment. I don’t need to ”˜prove’ his real character to anyone. I only need to continue being myself: a woman who is getting stronger by the day, and a mother who is helping her children do the same.
Donna and Quinn,
Thank you both for your replies–and for this website! You can’t know how helpful it has been to me during the past two years. Once I finally figured out what I was dealing with, I consider it somewhat of a miracle that I was able to find such an excellent source of education and support. I will keep on fighting the good fight. Just because I was conned for so many years (and as several of your readers have mentioned about their situations, some of it was due to my own upbringing!) I will not let my ex destroy me or my children. I have found an incredible amount of strength–and I will use it!
Thank you again,
Lisa
Thanks to everyone for your replies. I agree that a true sociopath will not feel the pain of losing his family. He will be angry about losing his image of portraying a so called perfect father and husband. This is very interesting website and I want to learn as much As possible about this personality disorder. My goal in life was always to make sure my son would not become his father. By my husband being in the military and deployed often I accomplished this goal as I was the parent who raised my son. I also noticed that narcissists love to have careers I military of law enforcement where they can abuse their so called “power” on a daily base . I truly hope that he will not throw more obstacles in my way. He also quit paying his sons college tuition. After I filed for divorce my son and I basically do not exist anymore. It’s all about him and how much more hurt and pain he can inflict on us. He by the way moved on with his new girlfriend. I almost feel sorry for her as she will be the new victim. They truly deserve each other.
The whole divorce process has made me very hesitant as a parent.
When the kids get mad at me they tell me they want to go live with their dad. So I think I try too hard to appease them so they won’t get upset.
My ex originally had custody in part because the courts believed that I did not know how to handle the kids because they had meltdowns when they were with me and not with their dad. I was not allowed to bring up in court that in my opinion it was because the kids were scared of their dad, because I had lost the protective order against him and it had already been decided no abuse had happened in the home!
They still do have more meltdowns at my house and I remain scared that the courts will take them away from me again.
I regained custody when my ex had a short period of homelessness. But now he has a job earning 3-4 times what I am earning. While I am a minister, the kids and I qualify for food stamps and medicaid on what I am earning. He showers them with things I cannot even begin to afford when they are with him. Yet often does not allow them to bring the items home with them. Ex. a soccer jersey my son really wanted, that he he now owns, but by definition cannot wear to school since he only sees his dad on the weekends. All I can hope is that through actions like this the kids will eventually see through to who their dad really is.
My kids were in counseling for 2 years, but my ex convinced them that they didn’t need it anymore after the divorce was official (and I was the only one who thought they still needed it. It was simply too hard to continue to coral them to get them there when none of the three of them would go willingly. I really think the youngest in particular could still benefit from it (She saw more of the abuse as it got worse, because she was not yet in school). But my son still holds his emotions in too much and is too eager to please, and my eldest is still very angry at me for ever leaving her dad and forcing her to switch schools.
All I can do is continue to shower my kids with love and a positive example and say lots of prayers.
I worry sometimes that I see sociopath traits at moments in all three of my kids. My son sees no problem in breaking laws (“It is only a crime if you get caught”- straight from his dad’s mouth).
My youngest has occasional outburst where she strikes physically at me and her brother. My eldest seems to believe the world ought to be handed to her on a silver platter with not effort on her part. Yet they all have wonderful traits too: The eldest is very musical and compassionate. The youngest is nurturing and a natural born leader. My son is incredibly intelligent and soft hearted. I nurture those traits as much as I can and again pray.
revjanice,
Your kids have meltdowns at your house because they feel safe with you. I used to work with abused and traumatized children. Believe me, they never acted out unless it was safe for them to do so. (Not that your children were abused, but certainly they are somewhat traumatized.)
I applaud you for seeing the best in your children. Continue to shower them with love, but hold the line on behavior. You don’t need to appease them. They will love and admire you for your strength, even if they criticize you. They are hurt and confused and likely angry, but they will ultimately recognize the parent with the strong core. And it may be good to get them into counseling again–regardless of whether they feel they need it. And if they don’t go, maybe you can go. A Therapist could help you set boundaries for them, and evaluate whether or not their behavior is normal for this situation, or something needing intervention.
I truly feel for you. The damage a sociopath can do when children are involved is devastating. The Spath knows we–and the children–are vulnerable. Please stay strong, and know you have the ability to be a good and strong force in their lives.
revjanice,
All you can do,as you said is to continue to nurture the good traits(and tactfully but determinedly correct the bad) and pray.And look forward to the time when the children grow up and are no longer minors.By that time they will probably see the truth on their own.Plus their lives will be busy and they’ll start going their own directions.But they don’t forget their mother!
I’m glad my girls are already grown.When I talked to the exec at Legal Aid,she congratulated me that there were no children living at home!Reading the posts here from those who still have children living at home,I can understand!
Today,I was going through some boxes that belong to my husband.Something told me to check for anything that might belong to me,as the boxes will be returned to him this weekend.I found pictures of my girls,a picture of my husband and I on our wedding day,one of my daughter’s original birth certificate(I replaced some time ago!)and a few pics of two of my sisters….UH UH,NO WAY JOSEA!Those do not belong to him!!! I scanned the pictures and sent them through email to my girls…told them they deserved some GOOD childhood memories! I knew these pictures would be special to them!
My ex liked to shock people sexually and in how he dressed. He liked to wear women’s clothes… yes I know, I just let him get on with it and didn’t react to it lol. My family still talk about the time he turned up at a family do wearing a kilt with nothing on underneath and deliberately sat so everything was on show lol
I_survived,
What’s the name of that song,I think it’s something like “Who Let The Dogs Loose?”!!!!! When they were through…..he wouldn’t have anything left to show! 🙂
revjanice-
LL Mequon is absolutely right- your children meltdown with you because they are safe to do so. It is a testament to your unconditional love. My children used to hold in all their emotion until they got home and then meltdown completely. We had to just be supportive and consistent- give them the space they needed, but not let them mistreat us in the process.
They are much better now that they can express their emotions without needing an excuse or outlet such as anger or frustration. I make sure their chores are less for that one day, but all rules of the house apply- they need the consistency,too.
It is so easy to want to ‘make up for’ their father’s behavior by being extra forgiving and try not to upset them, but what happens is, we end up nurturing the negative behavior, and they learn that if they misbehave, they get more leniency. It’s like a reward.
Counciling has been such an invaluable resource for me as a parent. It helps me to separate normal teenage ‘testing of boundaries’ and behaviors I should worry about. Your children will always know you love them, and as blossm4th said- it’s wonderful to nurture the good traits, but also to correct the negative behavior.
Quinn
I think when children grow older they will realize the true nature of a person . Until then all you can do is show them strength and provide them with one loving parent. To this day I regret that I did not put an end to this crazy making experience much earlier I know divorce is difficult at any child’s age but I wish I did not subject my son to a lying, cheating and abusive husband and father. Even tough the abuse was not physical it was a nightmare . The day he left his yahoo email account open and I found the naked pictures he was exchanging with a fellow female deputy I felt like my entire marriage was a lie. I do not remember how I found the courage to keep going. He justified his behavior by taking all my self esteem away By telling me how he hated my short hair, that I was boring, overweight and not sexy. He hurt my feelings so badly that I questioned my own self worth . Now I know that every word out of is mouth is worthless. And then of course the porn addiction. Seeing himself naked was his most enjoyable moments. He was so much in love with himself it was disgusting. This we site is giving me do much hope. I truly thought I was the only person who could be played like a fool. Thank you and stay strong. It will get better.
kaya48,
The hardest thing I had to overcome,and forgive myself for,was staying with my husband through my children’s growing years.Though I’ve forgiven myself,because after all,I was fearful of stepping out of the world I already knew;I still wonder how much happier our lives would have been if I’d made a different decision.Perhaps none of us would suffer with depression and anxiety.It makes me sick to my stomach when I think of the sham that our marriage was all those years!We were married Feb 1985.I’m not sure how soon the divorce will be finalized.
kaya48,
Reading about your husband’s “most enjoyable” moments reminded me about how I would frequently find my husband looking in a mirror at himself.I called him narcissic one day…and he actually LOOKED INTO THE MIRROR AND SMILED AND AGREED!He also laid around naked day and night;covering himself only with a sheet,or an afghan if someone visited.Being morbidly obese,he was probably more comfortable that way.But he did have clothes.And he refused to wear pjs.He didn’t care that it made me uncomfortable that he was always naked under the sheet or afghan!
Wow that sounds like my husband. He loved seeing himself naked too and always looked in every mirror he passed. To this day I have to laugh when he told me the naked pictures of him were suppose to be my birthday present. That was the lie he told when I found them on the home computer. He really thought I was an idiot. Well everyone was an idiot in his eyes. I am sure that he believed his own lies. When my father passed away at a young age he showed no compassion at all. His words were” get over it, people die every day .” It’s really disturbing to find out here how’s my more of these evil men exist. It’s scary to even think about dating again.
kaya48,
Wow!What similarities!When my mom died Dec 2010,my husband made all kinds of excuses/reasons as to why we couldn’t make it to the funeral!Not only did his lack of compassion hurt me deeply,but I wasn’t able to grieve properly.It also hurt me that I couldn’t be with my dad,siblings and aunts and friends at this time.I needed them.And they needed me.
Eleven monthes later,a close friend of his died.Now he started making plans to attend this funeral!!! What had changed about our circumstances?!ABSOLUTELY NOTHING!I vented my feelings about the matter…and so did a dear friend of mine!
Early this month,we had a family reunion in the state most of my family lives in.I was able to see my dad and all but one sibling.When the time came for all the picture taking,there was one of my dad and his children.There was a chair next to him where my mother would have set.None of us knew what dad was going to do before the cameras flashed.He called for the big picture of mom to be brought out to be put in that chair!The tears flowed as the cameras flashed.(and they are now as I write this)I could finally receive some closure.
blossom
Are you divorced yet? Did he leave or was it you? I was just wondering. There are so many similarities, it’s unbelievable. I know that my husband had planned his exit strategy . He would make me so upset that I cried and then he would call one of his deputy friends and told him I want to kill myself. What was a crazy lie His deputy friend came to the house and baker acted me (here in Florida anyone can be send to a mental institution of up to 72 hours). While I was there (only 3 hrs because they knew I was manipulated) he left and moved out. The next day he changed all direct deposits and took all money out of our accounts. He then claimed he had no other choice but to leave because I was “mentally ill”. The psychatrist confirmed that there was nothing wrong with me except that I caught him cheating and I was emotional upset. He confirmed that I am an excellent mother and have good steady employment. Thinking back now I know that he was hoping to have me locked away somewhere. I am thankful that his plan did not work as planned . My son saw right through him and was and still is my greatest support. He was very relieved when I filed for the divorce. It’s going to be the battle of my life. I am very grateful for this website thank you for letting me know that I am not the only victim.
No,we’re not divorced yet.I left him after he called me a drama queen when I nearly choked on some rice–that was simply the last straw!I applied with Legal Aid for a divorce.I received a letter from them this past weekend.They may waive the filing fee,but if not,I have to be prepared to pay $161.00 this next month.Hopefully the divorce goes quicker than what I’ve been reading here!
What your husband did to you is exactly what my ex brother-in-law did to my sister!She’s a nurse,and he had her put in a substance abuse place.She decided to make the best of it and had fun getting to know the other people!The guy is a youth group/preacher and author of a book(the name would give him away).
Thank you all for your honest stories relating to this excellent article and topic. It has all hit me right on today as I continue to mourn the loss of my adult daughter to her psychopath father. My advice to all of you with children still at home is to tell them the truth at their level without bashing the other parent. I can see now (too late) that he had a plan and plotted a diligent campaign from the beginningto let me raise them and then take them away from me when they became successful adults.
Beware of him trying to “trauma bond” with your children when he leaves. Trauma bonding is hard to break. My children’s psychopath father played an extermely emotional scene with tears and grief way beyond their comprehension after he came in with a moving van and moved in with his new girlfriend. That is correct, he burgled our home, left it in shambles, violated our security, moved in with another woman and her child and then came back to play victim and create a trauma bond with his children. That trauma bond has lasted forever because I was in shock and did not know to throw him out. I did not understand what it was and that I needed to get therapy for the children. I still believed in the goodness of all people. Beware of ideas he plants in their heads like “I want to live with my daddy” or “We never get along with you.” They are not normal childish remarks, they are mind control.
It may be too late for me and my children. I pray someday they will realize what he is but they are deeply indoctrinated and brainwashed. And I helped do it by thinking that any father was better than none and that they would see it on thier own when they grew up. I was wrong, all I did was protect the perpetrator and give him ample opportunity to poison their minds against me. I did not even know what a psychopath was back then and if I had I would have been thrown into an insane asylum for accusing him.
Be grateful for this site and others like it and be thankful there are people who understand even if they are few and far between. Read, educate yourself, find support. It is there now if you seek it out. We who have been there know to our core that evil exists and we have been exposed to it at its worst. Even at this late date for me, I am so thankful to be validated here and see those of you who are able to benefit from all of our experience so that you may save yourselves and your children.
Bless you all and know that I stand behind your fight and courage and I have confidence in you winning over the psychopath in your life.
thank you Delores,
I’m so sorry for all you’ve endured. As a parent, we always try to do what is best with the knowledge we have. I hope you are able to forgive yourself for your decisions, you were only doing what you thought was best. I did the same, and yes, i feel very fortunate that I was able to learn when i did, but I still wish I had known sooner. Thank you for your encouraging words and for sharing your story. I’m glad you can find validation and support on this site, it has been invaluable to me, as well.
Quinn
Delores, I am so sorry for the situation you are in. I do believe that at some point your children will see things for what they are. As we know, sociopaths cannot behave without total self-interest. They are incapable of love. Your children’s father will not treat them any better than he treats anyone else. At some point they will assert their own wants, needs and personality. He won’t like that, and they will begin to see him for what he is.
I am also grateful to you for pointing up one of the huge problems in divorcing a sociopath. I had to constantly fight (and sometimes still do!) people who think I should have “sheltered” my children from the realities of their father, or “just let them have a relationship”. Of course, I did plenty of that when they were young, and we were still married! But once I figured out what he was, I knew I had to make sure my children understood he was a dangerous person. (In my case emotionally and psychologically dangerous, not violent.)That is parenting–to do what is best for your children. I knew I was doing them a disservice if I was not honest with them. The fallout can be rough. For one thing, my ex became even more combative. He was outraged that I was telling my children (and others who would listen) the truth, and he could no longer control the flow of information. Many of my “friends” and acquaintances thought I was simply badmouthing him, or it was a “he said, she said” situation. As with all of the spaths in these posts, he put his mask on and fooled a lot of people. I only had one (out of three)child who was under 18 at the time of the divorce, and he was 15 when I filed. Still, my ex fought me tooth and nail, at first. Partially because he didn’t want to pay child support (which I would have willingly given up to have my son) and partially do be vindictive and in control. My own attorney wanted me to settle at some point re: custody. When I tried to explain that I would not let my young, impressionable son spend any significant amount of time with a sociopathic porn addict and criminal, she said “Well, he must not be all that bad–you married him!” (I went ballistic at that point, and gave her a crash course in what a sociopath can do to a child’s development. Not to mention to me–her client!) Luckily I had discovered evidence that he had embezzled from his clients and committed tax fraud (HA!), so I had some leverage.
My son is just turning 17 now and–so far–things are working out. But I had to tiptoe around the court and technically agree to SOME visitation (which I have not had to follow through on, see above “leverage”) because the courts do NOT understand sociopaths! They think it’s a situation where we may have “grown apart”, or he fell in love with someone else, and I would want to withhold my child from him as “punishment”.
I do wish I would have known all of this sooner, of course. But I am definitely older, wiser and stronger at this point in my life. So maybe in a better position to handle it? No matter what, I am very thankful for the knowledge and support of this community. It has made this difficult path slightly easier.
LLM-
your situation is very similar to mine, on many levels. I was criticized severely for telling my children ‘too much’. You expressed the importance of arming our children with information so well. My latest article coming out tomorrow touches on the impact of much of this on one of my children, and the decisions I made once I had the information. Thank you for your comments and continued support”
Quinn
I can relate to every thing in this article. My ex-wife (who filed for divorce) is the extreme in “entitlement” and hoards anything even though she will never have any use for it, is completely consumed in the mask of her deception.She will spend spend weeks laying the snare for even an acquaintance. The reason I’ve concluded is that it builds on her delusional image which allows her to circumvent any conscience she might have had.
Thanks for sharing, I can fully relate to everything you stated.
Roy
Hi Roy,
It’s nice to hear from you. It’s a very typical behavior, I think for the sociopaths to want everything whether they need it or not. I always found that my xspath spent much more energy on ‘snaring’ casual acquaintances than on people closest to him. Almost like it was his way of ensuring a large number of people admired him, regardless of whether he ever saw them again, it was, indeed, and image building exercise, like a politician. Usually, there isn’t any conscience to speak of, only remorse for being caught or pretend emotions to fit the situation. Thanks for the great comments and for reading my article.
Quinn