Like many of you, I am very grateful for a few friends who acted as sounding boards as I processed my experience with a sociopath. The best talks have been with my exercise partner who is also a former Federal agent. About 2 years ago on one of our walks we discussed what it must be like to be inside the skin of a sociopath. Both of us tried to imagine what their inner world is like.
On that walk we both connected with ourselves and each other in a way we hadn’t before. The connection happened as we reflected on what it must be like to live a life without love. I realized that my sense of myself as a continuous person over time is based on the people I love and the values I have a passion for. Everywhere I go I carry with me a sense of duty, love and connection to my children and other loved ones. My dearest ones are always inside me. The fulfilling of duty to them gives life purpose and direction.
According to Dr. Cleckley, the first psychiatrist to really study sociopaths, the disorder produces an incapacity for love that is “complete”. Furthermore Dr. Cleckley states in his book, The Mask of Sanity that even those who have an “incomplete manifestation” of the disorder completely lack the capacity for love.
Without love to give themselves a sense of feeling and purpose, sociopaths are prone to boredom. They have to keep filling their lives with excitement and also abuse substances to fill the gap.
Sociopaths live in the moment because they lack the loving human connections that give everyone else a sense of continuity of person and purpose.
Sociopaths also have no true self because instead of being based on loving connections, their sense of themselves is based on who they can dominate in the moment. If yesterday they had to assume a certain identity to get over on person A, today they may have to assume another identity to get over on person B. This assumption of identities is not a problem for them because the goal is not loving or meaningful connectedness. The goal is the pleasure of the get over. They will become what they must to accomplish that goal.
I’ve been struggling over whether or not to include a section on “identity” in my next book. I am trying not to get too psychologically technical. But it might be helpful for victims and family members to reflect on identity and understand why sociopaths lack a stable sense of self. I am interested in your thoughts about that.
Since some of you indicated you wanted me to tackle an explanation of “borderline personality”. I’ve been reading on the issue of identity. On page 213 of “Borderline Conditions and Pathological Narcissism” psychoanalyst Dr. Otto Kernberg says the following:
The normal integrated self and its related integrated conceptions of others guarantee a sense of continuity throughout time and under varying circumstances. They also guarantee a sense of belonging to a network of human relations that makes life meaningful, and they guarantee the ordinary “self feeling” we take for granted”¦
He also says that absent loving connections:
”¦ pathological subjective experiences of a painful and disturbing nature develop. Among these experiences predominates a sense of emptiness and futility of life, chronic restlessness and boredom..In typical cases, it is as if this emptiness were their basic modality of subjective experience from which they attempt to escape by engagement in many activities or in frantic social interactions, by the ingestion of drugs or alcohol or by attempts to obtain instinctual gratifications through sex, aggression, food or compulsive activities”¦
I hope you will spend what is left of summer reflecting on your own loving connections. As you contemplate the meaning of these connections and their importance to your sense of who you are, consider your own “self-feeling”. Realize that you have yourself to give yourself in intimacy to another either friend, family or lover, while the sociopath you know has nothing to give anyone.
Dear cutandrun: First of all, CONGRATULATIONS on not letting it get too physical. That was your integrity. I did not have as much integrity.
Secondly. Forget the P. Any man who hits on a married woman like that is a BAD MAN, end of story. I’m sorry. Doesn’t matter what the circumstances are. BAD MAN. A good man doesn’t want to do that to a woman he secretly loves. And speaking of love, “lust” is what he means. LOVE takes time. You don’t know if you love someeone, will put their happiness just about equal to yours, for the long haul, until you get to KNOW them, spend a lot of time with them, etc.
Thirdly, I’m in a 38 year marriage. My husband takes a lot of the responsibility of what went wrong, maybe more than he should. But he had been hiding a drinking problem from me for all our marriage.
He really kicked it into high gear to fix our marriage, and I responded too, though at first it felt strange, like it wouldn’t last. But it IS lasting.
We had to get real with each other. About what needs we had that weren’t being met.
I had to become emotionally sober….give up wanting those dramatic highs and lows. I didn’t know I wanted them, but I saw yes, life can seem a little boring without that! But I’ve found other ways to put in excitement that are healthy. Looking forward to things.
There are some good websites on cheating that might help you understand those dynamics. The S preyed upon your vulnterability. Tried to seduce you. BAD MAN. Let you and your husband learn to meet each other’s needs now.
My husband and I weren’t even sleeping on the same floor. I used to beg him to sleep with me. NOW, we not only sleep in the same bed, but go to sleep with his arm around me. He finally, FINALLY got that meant the world to me! And I finally got that I had to stop criticizing him, among other things.
We are truly so happy now.
Dear Justabouthealed. Thank you so much for encouraging post!
You truely found the manure part in the shit. It is very unpleasant to move the shit to the pasture where it belongs, it stinks and it is smelly and embarrassing for all and EVERYBODY can smell it (you can’t hide it anymore from you and the others). But THEN it helps bloom and flourish, and the crops are far more abundant than without.
I remember very well your desperate posts when you discovered the drinking problem of your husband’s, and the deastation you expressed. I am SO glad for you now! I also think that you saved the life of your husband as heavy longtime drinking is a very deadly illness that puts people in great danger, in fact in our country alcohol kills more people than “illegal” drugs do!
Thank you so much for sharing, I will start my day with a VERY good positive attitude now! Hope the same for you all.
Thanks so much libelle for remembering. Yes, he has been sober for 7 months and what a changed man! My heart broke reading the recent story about the mother drunk driving and killing herself and all those people and her poor husband saying “I never saw her drunk”. I know how it can be hidden that well from you!
My husband had an addiction…and hard as that is to treat, it IS treatable, unlike a personality disorder!!! AND all my friends said he is a keeper. And he is. He had a problem. I had a problem. We have forgiven each other and fell in love again, even while I have struggled with PTSD from the P. I can’t believe my husband forgave me, he can’t believe I forgave him. So it all worked out, eventually. The P was a nuclear bomb that went off, though, that’s for sure.
The P is becoming a bad memory at last. At times I feel afraid of him, but then I realize he is actually afraid of me at this point, and calm down. Otherwise, pretty much through it! Today anyway!
Okay….typical Erin…..off subject…..
I have to give you all a laugh at my ‘antics’ today……
So, I figured out that i will NEVER EVER see the money the new s owes me, it’s a get in line situation…..100K deep. …..BUT….I STILL HAVE THEIR STUFF.
I will call them the pig and the prostitute.
So I decided that I would expose them as repayment of my debt…….this seemed fair to me.
The more I ‘exposed’ the more I found out……and the more I will alert.
YOU CAN RUN, but YOU CAN”T HIDE!!!!!!
They are crooks!
So, in the ‘stuff’, I uncovered all sorts of docs…..so today, I had a nice conversations with the probation officer, the EX wife, and the Bail bondsman. Soon I will call homeland security, as she is here on a visa and frauding citizens (felony charges) and the state of XX in addition to collecting benefits in Europe as well……I can’t get health ins….BUT SHE CAN???? NOT!!!!
I will call europe benefits aswell and alert them of this fraud…..
OH, YOU CAN RUN, BUT YOU CAN”T HIDE!!!!
The pig is not in jail…..currently…..
but he has warrants a mile long, according to the sheriffs and bail bondsman.
Have you ever spoken to a bail bondsman…….OMG….I have never had a need to……BUT…..they are a WEALTH of information! File that one…..
So, the story of the pig and the prostitute continues……I have…18 more days until I can go full rambo exposure…..
I wish to run him out of this COUNTRY!!!! Put the pressure on, and build a ‘team’ of people that know too much about him. At least his kids will be safe and allow to grow without the influence of this S…..
If my money can buy this for his children…..then that’s all I can ask.
OMG….his ex wife was floored at my radom call…..my information…..I felt so bad for her…….she really does want her children to know their father…..she still believes he ‘needs help’……I told her yes…..but he will never receive it…..he will always place blame……he is at risk of kidnapping her kids and running off to europe and disappearing……
she is in fear, but still not wanting it to be ‘this way’……
IT IS!!!!
I hope I served her well.
So…..the pig and the prostitute are ‘bigger and bigger’ into the cons than I thought even yesterday…..YIKES…..
The funny thing is ….they con each other……I will post a letter he wrote to her…..OMG….it’s total S material…….its just sickening…..
So anyways…..that is what I am wasting my time doing….but I need some debt relief.
OMG…
Maybe I should change my screen name to
ErinbrockoBITCH!
ErinB:
This is hardly a waste of time this is REVENGE! aand i would give anything to get that!
akitameg :
Mine ex P also received hundreds of thousands the day he kicked me to the curb. Your illness is definitely stress related. You need to try to find the time to come to LF more often and VENT! It takes a long time to get over the anger of long time abuse…don’t subdue it or suppress it or you will get more sick. You must express it here, it is SAFE to express what you feel here! LF is the real “holiday” you need. Where people understand where you are coming from and can help you. xo
There it is. These statements of fact are the truths that I have come to realize and accept, and are KEY to getting over your experience with the sociopath/narcissist. Depersonalize, and understand their mindset, and you’re well on your way to recovery. Thanks for this article!
Tilly and Eliz and everyone-
thank you for your responses.
by the way-
my psychiatrist told me yesterday that the MMPI test– the personality test– can “pick up” if someone is an S.
Personally– I think they are too good and get away with it. Mine took one and his doc (then again his doc could have full of you know what) said he was not an S. Yeah, right.
my shrink said however– that there is something that picks up “inaccuracies” on the test.
I think that test cannot pick up evil– and that’s what these folks are.
Proof they are evil.
sorry to be babbling and venting.
Tilly–
when yours received the money and kicked you to the curb–did he somehow blame his dumping you and you and your actions?