If you read the stories of victims of sociopaths, many common themes are apparent. One of these is the victim complains that he/she is riddled with anxiety while the sociopath goes on with life effortlessly. From the point of view of a victim then, it is hard to see fear as a gift. Many say they wish the sociopath suffered some anxiety over the mess of their lives. The worst sociopaths (psychopaths) even go to prison multiple times, only viewing this fate as “an occupational hazard.”
Over the past 100 years, clinicians and scientists have written about the lack of fear in sociopaths. Many have speculated that lack of anxiety or fearlessness is one of the causes of sociopathy/psychopathy. In fact, one researcher was able to show that the level of anxiety shown by children in the first two years of life predicted conscience at age 6. Low fear kids had less of a conscience. In these low fear kids, only empathy predicts conscience.
If you are with me in raising a fearless child whose other parent is a sociopath, you have to understand this risk factor for the disorder. Fearless kids require specialized parenting that focuses on developing empathy to an advanced degree. They have to be super empathetic to make up for their deficit in guilt/anxiety/fear. Many writing on this blog have questioned whether empathy can be taught or fostered. There is much evidence that the development of empathy can be enhanced by the right parenting.
My son’s teachers have all described him as very caring and empathetic even without knowing that I wrote a book on that subject. So I can give testimony as to what helps fearless, at-risk kids have empathy and conscience through empathy. Many fearless kids, like my son are resistant to punishment. So the only hook you have with them is a loving relationship. You need a big hook too, because the same fearless kids are energetic and very impulsive, so they require a great deal of correcting. Their only motivation to learn to control their behavior is to have the approval of those they love. This is why the usual American parenting style, which does not foster close family relationships, produces sociopathy in fearless at risk kids.
Many parents who come to realize they are dealing with a fearless at-risk child, come to believe that “discipline” will fix the problem. They therefore seek out advice on how to do this effectively. They use all the techniques only to find out that they may work in the moment here and there but do very little to impact the fearless child’s behavior overall.
Also I should say that fearlessness and dominance behavior go hand in hand, so these kids are what most people call “strong-willed.” Many religious leaders have therefore said that it is important to “break the will” of strong-willed kids.
The problem with trying to break the will of an at-risk child and focusing on discipline, is that these do not instill what at risk children need to develop a conscience. These kids don’t need to be broken, they need to be fixed! The fix involves teaching them to love.
When teaching a child to love, it is important to remember that negative family experiences have a stronger weight in our minds that loving ones. The at-risk child responds to negative interactions, not with fear but with more dominance behavior. Psychologists have determined that in order to be of equal weight, our positive loving experiences have to out-weigh our conflicts by 5:1. So we have to experience 5 times more love than conflict in order for us to feel stable.
If you are with me raising at-risk kids you will immediately see the “Catch 22.” These kids need constant correcting because they are so impulsive. If they get a thought to do something, they do it instantly and they have a hard time terminating an unwanted behavior. So the usual parenting means 100 times more conflict than love for these kids. In a nut shell that is why many develop sociopathy. Study after study has shown that when normal loving parents adopt children with genetic risk (whose biologic parents are sociopaths), they turn negative and punitive toward the kids.
Without focused practice loving, the absence of guilt turns into a complete absence of conscience for at-risk kids. A person with guilt deficiency can have a conscience if he/she has empathy. Without either guilt or empathy you get a psychopath. (Also by the way some guilt with no empathy makes ____________ personality disorder? You fill in the blank.)
Ok now many of you are saying to yourselves, “I don’t buy this fearless, lack of anxiety crap. The sociopath I was with was neurotic as hell.” Although studies of groups of sociopaths show that within individuals the level of anxiety is negatively correlated with the level of sociopathy, it also turns out that the rates of phobias (other than social phobia) and anxiety disorders are NOT lower in sociopaths.
Scientists are presently very puzzled trying to reconcile all these observations. The evidence that fearlessness and lack of anxiety are causative in sociopathy is fairly strong. How do we explain then, phobias and anxiety in sociopaths and conduct disordered kids?
I can offer some explanation based on my reading and my own observations of sociopaths and their offspring. I think the critical question is WHEN the fear system develops in a child, if it does. I think that in many sociopaths, the fear system develops too late to impact their development in a positive way. So if a child develops fears after he/she has already developed a pattern of dominant, impulsive behavior, those fears do little to positively impact his personality development. Instead these fears lead a child to become even more aggressive in self defense.
Also realize that if a child’s fear system, which is supposed to develop by 2, doesn’t develop until 4 or 5, he/she is left without the tools to manage the fears. Children are supposed to use their loving relationships to cope with their fears. The at-risk child, at 5 already has a poor relationship with his/her caregivers because of the impulsive behavior. Who is the child supposed to turn to when afraid? The only thing that child can do is to focus on having interpersonal power. If he/she is powerful then he/she can’t be hurt. I encourage you to go and observe this for yourself this summer. Go to a local playground and observe the kids. You will see the dominant ones using fantasies of power to cope with their fears.
So as I have said before, sociopaths do not have the gift of fear. The way fear works in their lives never helps to keep them safe. Their experience of fear is aberrant; they suffer with it but that suffering does them no good. For sociopaths fear and anxiety are not connected to avoidance of stuff that gets them in trouble. For them fear and anxiety are connected to the opposite, fantasies of interpersonal power. Feeling anxious only makes them aggress more on others.
I am interested to hear your accounts of phobias, fears and anxiety in the sociopath you were involved with. Also if you have at-risk children please feel free to comment on how hard it is to parent them. This is one area where the observations of family members can contribute to our understanding of both sociopathy and how it develops.
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Yes, I can vouch for it, you are lucky you are not pregnant. And….by the way, the reason you were nagging about him cheating, is because he probably was. Have compassion for the pregnant lady. It was hard for me. I was going through the discard while being pregnant. And since I HAVE a conscious, I was so darn worried about the baby that I worked so hard to be upbeat and not stress out. It makes me cry to think about it.
I am sorry if that sounded heartless. I know it is hard to have compassion for the other women. But I fully believe with all my heart that leaving is the nicest thing that a sociopath can do to you. How they do it and go about it, is totally horrible. But once they are gone for a while, it feels like the biggest gift ever. You really have the better end of the deal, even if it doesn’t feel like it right now.
Dearest Bird,
You never have sounded “heartless”–my dear you have a heart as big as all outdoors, if anything was probably better not said it was my crack about her being better off (not pregnent) than the mother of his child will be. But we all know that he will not take care of that baby and if he notices it at all he will use it as a weapon to hurt the mother with.
I also do know how difficult it is to be a single parent, but not to go through the pregnency itself by myself. I’m just so glad you had your wonderful friend there for you. I know that you love Birdie, and will be a wonderful parent to Birdie, but it is difficult to do it by yourself. I hope and pray though that when you are healed you will find a loving father for the Birdie. My mom picked a wonderful man for me, and he was wonderful, adopted me legally and was such a wonderful mentor and loving dad for me. I pray that you find such a wonderful man for our Birdie and for YOU. ((((Bird & Birdie))))
Hi Everyone,
I have been off here for over a week. Miss posting and reading, but my son started back to school last week and I am TIRED! Good to hear you are all hanging in there and fighting the good fight. Showed up for court on the 27th and didn’t bring my son-in case my p was going to try to get the judge to hand him over to him at the courthouse, so my boy had a nice day at school and never mentioned going to that baseball game in Chicago with the p.
My attorney called me the next day and asked if I was sitting down. I told him I was not ready for a heart attack and more bad news. He said my p had fired his lawyer and he suspected the reason why was because P was furious that his attorney didn’t try hard enough to get the judge to force my son to be turned over to p. The new attorney he has, has a reputation for being particularly cunning and malicious and winning divorce cases for his clients no matter how disgusting they are. Well, we shall see because the new attorney officed with my p 12 years ago and it was my p who labled him as cunning and malicious. Also, my p created a lot of infighting in that office amongst the secretaries when he was there and spoke viciously behind this attorneys back. Now he has hired him to defend him. This is really getting weird again. Maybe this attorney had no idea how much my p resented his success, spread rumors about him and created all those problems before he moved on? Why would you hire someone you have despied and envied? Does anyone have a clue what this “move” means? I am utterly baffled!
Blessings and prayers to all, Julie
Dear Inthebreach,
Well, you “won” one round, that’s good!
Why would he hire such a person he doesn’t like? I imagine he wants someone who will be “cunning” and “nasty” if that’s what it takes….sometimes that back fires though.
If I was hiring a lawyer, I think I would buy the nastiest, meanest, most underhanded person in the world in order to win, and that’s what isn’t all about for your X.
I still don’t understand if your X is not the child’s natural or adoptive father why he would “just as your x-husband” have ANY rights to visitation to your son.
Anyway, good luck and I keep you in my thoughts and prayers. (((hug)))
Dear all,
I am new to this site, I have never even used a PC till last few weeks, I am in utter despair as the realization that all my
terror of the last fourteen years has been confirmed and validated by everything I read from all your contributions I am in such pain I have lost my son to the P? NPD? I have lived in terror denial guilt till I could take no more, but he is believed in all his lies. I do not know how to even begin to get to grips with losing Matt to him and how my son at 13 seems to be also beguiled by his utterly evil father. I am battling suicidal thoughts, I am truly broken please could someone share their thoughts on their losses .
My ex-P didn’t seem afraid or anxious about anything. I was still with him when he had a court case up that seemed certain he was going to get jail time because a Judge (minus a jury) had already found him guilty and sentenced to 90 days (this happened prior to our meeting), but he had then asked for an appeal with a jury trial. The night before court he slept like a baby, not a worry in the world. No anxiety on the way to court or after he was in court. Got on the witness stand and lied like crazy, mixing lies with truth, came across as yes he had had problems in the past but had his life straightened out NOW and presented evidence of it by way of HIS OWN WORDS and examples of his present stability with work and being in management now etc. Although some of it was factual, most of it was highly exaggerated, and of course, not verified by the court or anyone else)
He blamed alot of what happened on booze and admitted both he and his former wife were drunk, but also said he hadn’t drank in over a year now and gave a specific date for when he stopped and WHY on that date. (in fact he had been drinking heavily the NIGHT BEFORE the case) He came across very calm and CONVINCING. I even believed him at the time on alot of the stuff, although I realized he was exaggerating and lying in some areas. His “victim” on the other hand, one of his former wives (he’s had three wives, four cohabitations lasting a year or more, and several cohabitations lasting only a few months), came across like a basket case, which I now understand WHY. She also had a drinking problem and had spent time in rehab for it and you better believe my ex-P had taken the time to find out about that and get his attorney to USE it against her in court.
He also expressed CONVINCING REMORSE on the stand for what had happened, although he also had a good explanation for it all and how it all went down with her sharing the blame. When the verdict was read the victim looked stunned, and my ex-P had this huge look of relief and gratitude on his face with TEARS in his eyes. He also thanked the jury and just seemed so sincere and EMOTIONAL. Once it was all over and he was alone with me and his attorney, whom had handled cases for him for about 15 years (menacing, driving with suspended licenses while on probations for DUI’s, numerous alluding (running from police), numerous resisting arrest–just to name a few): He said: “That b**** deserved everything she got that night.” Only much later did I find out he had also manufactured evidence to make her look bad, and he also on numerous times bragged to his friends about winning and she deserved everything he ever did to her for f***ing with him, and he wasn’t going to jail for that b****. He also after the case kept asking me “Did you see me get the tears in my eyes?” He was REAL proud of that accomplishment and his display of FAKE REMORSE and gratitude.
Another time, on a DUI case it was iffy whether his DUI was going to be a felony or a misdemeanor (depended on whether all his previous DUI’s got court certified). Although not anxious, he was PLANNING hairbrained schemes for leaving the country–complete with getting contacts for people in South America)– as he was NOT going to prison for a year at minimum (the Judge who would have heard the felony case had a rep for sentencing felony DUI’s on average to seven years in jail and if my memory serves me correctly the attorney said he would likely serve 2 or 3 years of a 7 year conviction).
My ex, knew that given not only his very lengthy misdemeanor arrest rap sheet spannig 25 years, that since he also had a prior felony conviction for THEFT back when he was in his 20’s, that the judge looks at all that and would likely throw the book at him, so although not anxious, he was full throttle SCHEMING how to avoid that prison sentence by not showing up for court at all and running. No consideration was given whatsoever to his two minor children from a former marriage, support for them, or even ever being able to have ever have contact with them again–they just didn’t factor into the decision making and he verbalized (to both me and his own parents) they did not matter, what mattered was HIM as he was NOT going to jail for that length of time and he would never step foot in that particular judges courtroom. Anyway, all the previous DUI’S didn’t get certified so it was a misdemenar and he knew that would carry a light sentence in a city court and it would be the city jail, rather than a prison, so he immediately dropped his plans to run. He was sentenced to 30 days in jail. He asked to be allowed to report to jail in a few days due to an excuse he came up with, and the judge granted. When I took him to jail to drop him off, I went inside the lobby with him. He actually seemed not only NOT anxious about going to jail, but EXCITED about it, like he was going on a big adventure to 30 day summer camp at the Hamptons beach club or something. When the jailer came to get him, my ex-P was all smiles and started immediately chatting up the guy like they were best friends or something.
DEAR READYTOLEARN,
Thank you for posting and welcome to Donna’s healing site. I am so sorry you are battling this trauma. Please, read here and learn about these EVIL people. Knowledge of what and who they are is POWER, and will help you to recover.
Please PLEASE do not hurt yourself over these people. Many of us here have felt so alone and helpless, and some have even tried to hurt themselves or at least thought about it. This is the pain speaking, and sometimes the pain seems unbearable but it isn’t.
I too lost my son, but my son IS A PSYCHOPATH, but the grief I suffered at losing my son to his own evilness is no less painful than seeing your son die before your eyes. My son is in prison for murder, and that is where he belongs. I tried from the time he was a teenager to protect him from himself but was unable to. I also have a P-father and an enabling mother who protects the evil ones, so I have lost most of my family through the years to this horrible condition of EVIL, and that is the only word that describes it.
I imagine that there are times you have felt so confused and alone, but there is a supportive and healing community of wonderful people here and a huge amount of things to read and learn. Feel free to post, ask questions, etc. we are here to support you and we have all been through pretty much the same keel hauling by the psychopaths in our lives. Hang on, there IS light at the end of this dark tunnel. ((((hugs))))
Dear Jen,
Were you married to my P-son by any possibility ? LOL
That was a wonderful description of a psychopath in court and afterwards. NOW you can see 1000 RED FLAGS waving in that description. NO REMORSE, FAKE emotions, LIES, VENGENCE etc.
Sounds like your P would hit the top of the scale on the PCL-R. I’m so glad fo ryour sake you are away from this piece of SCUM low-life. Maybe he will move to TExas and get to share a cell with my son sounds like they deserve each other.
The lawyer my mom hired for my son’s parole hearing had him write a “remorse” letter to the parole board and you know, this attorney said that it WAS THE BEST REMORSE LETTER he had ever read. It did sound like a PhD in psych wrote it and was “OH, SOOOOOO SINCERE” (excuse me while I puke) Yep, they sure don’t get it do they.
RreadytoLearn,
I also wanted to say welcome. It was brave of you to post a plea for help. As I am sure you have found out, this site is full of so much information that will help you. And the Blog comments are like being in the trenches with the survivors.
Guess what? You are a survivor too!
I am so sorry that you have had to go throw so much terror and pain. I don’t have any children but I work with children and I know that 13 is a tough age.
My guess is that the best thing to do is do everything you can to heal yourself. When you are able to pull yourself together, your son will see that. When you are broken down and hysterical… (not saying you are but we have all been there) that’s the hardest time to get people to believe you. Also, what you would have to say about your ex is barely understandable to adults, let alone children. But they are perceptive.
If you pull yourself together, your son will eventually see who is being vicous and whom is doing the terrorizing.
I am not sure I have the right advice here.
Anyone battling a S/P/ BPD/ NPD in court that can help?
Also, there are some essays here that deal with issue of battling over children with a personality disordered person. There are books about that subject too. Read them, okay?
We are glad you joined us. Feel free to dump your bucket of pain here. We can handle it.
Aloha