Although it has been many years and there is a new relationship, a friend of mine still wishes every day that the sociopath that preyed on her will “drop dead.” Wishing and hoping that some horrible end will come for the sociopath takes up time and energy in my friend’s life; as she searches for evidence that something bad has indeed happened to the sociopath and then is disappointed.
Recently, I discussed the topic of forgiving psychopaths with a psychopathy researcher who is not a clinician. He said he received a letter from someone complaining that friends were pressuring the victim to forgive. It was the psychopathy researcher’s opinion that people should NOT be told they have to forgive a psychopath.
Upon reflecting on this opinion, I believe that this psychopathy researcher may have a special insight that informs his view —that psychopaths should not necessarily be forgiven. Perhaps this insight is: in spite of their brain disorder, psychopaths still have a choice about what they do.
My son is now 7, he and I rough and tumble play every day. It is impossible to wrestle and not have some kind of slight hurt come to one or the both of us. From the time he was very young, perhaps as young as 3, my son has appreciated the idea that mommy didn’t “do it on purpose”. If he pokes me in the eye or lands rough on my stomach he’ll say “Sorry, I didn’t do it on purpose.”
This example illustrates our inborn social contract that says we do not hurt each other on purpose. If hurts happen in the course of life, they are usually unintended side effects of other behaviors and so should be forgiven. Cheating on a spouse could even be forgiven as an unintentional hurt if the person succumbed to temptation in a moment of weakness, realized the wrong committed, then repented. Even murder is not punished as much if it is an accident.
The problem with sociopaths is that their behavior is no accident. They hurt people on purpose, carefully planning, then executing their plans. After 7 years of reading research articles and talking to victims, I believe choice is part of a complete explanation of sociopathy and victimization. If you watch any of the TV shows about sociopaths you too will see that the theme of their choices permeates the media.
Friday night, Gangland on the History Channel told the story of Billy Wadd, a member of the Devil’s Disciples motorcycle gang who gained notoriety when he broke the biker’s code of silence and testified against his nephew who murdered a family during a home invasion. Wadd said he decided to aid the prosecution of his nephew, John Wolfenbarger, instead of “taking care of things the usual way” because “You just don’t kill kids.” It is clear he believed these murders were performed with an intention that not even another sociopath could accept, so even sociopaths believe in their own capacities for choice.
Now let’s reconsider whether victims should be told they have to forgive. It seems there is a natural human instinct that says forgiveness is reserved for accidents, unintended consequences, and perhaps intentional slights that are out of character. How then can you ever forgive a psychopath?
Psychopaths have been compared to predators. I think this analogy is seriously flawed. A predator such as a lion or wolf has to kill in order to survive. Psychopaths don’t hurt for survival. They hurt because they want to, because they like hurting. Their enjoyment of hurting increases the likelihood they will choose to hurt if given the opportunity. They also seek out opportunities to hurt -not for survival but for pleasure.
Since sociopaths, with intention, repeatedly violate our inborn social contract, perhaps they should never be forgiven.
Instead of forgiving, I hope, my friend, you will think about all this and thoroughly digest the reality of the sociopath you shared life with. The reality is terrible— you shared life with a truly evil person, someone who regularly, with malice and forethought, chooses to harm others. Don’t stop hoping to see the day the scourge of this evil person’s existence will be wiped from the Earth, but do not waste any more of your time on him.
Awe, all my new found LF friends!
This is EXACTLY what I need…exactly. You see, when I get stronger I will be able to tell some of you what you have told me…things that we all already know, but need it reinforced…time and time and time and time again…
I appreciate the encouragement more than you know…
I wonder, does he UNDERSTAND that Im not running away from him as a coward? Does he know and see that what was going on was NOT normal and THIS was the extreme I had to go to in order to GET OUT (I hope that doesnt sound like Im feeling sorry for him, cause Im not)! Or, maybe, is he really so stupid (for lack of better words) that he thinks IVE done something…and dont want to have to ‘face’ him…
What an ass
robxsykobabe – i’ll take a liberty here, ’cause it’s you, and be really str8t about whether he understands why you left………….
IT DOESN’T F*CKING MATTER!!!
you’re right. what an ass.
I was just thinking about something else…the way I started the NC!!
You know, he lied to me while looking me straight in the eyes…and I didnt want NC…
He manipulated my kind heart and caring spirit…and I didnt want NC…
He tried splitting my family against me…and I didnt want NC…
He used me for sex, a place to stay, ‘normalcy’, and anythign else I had that he didnt…andn I didnt want NC…
BUT…after stealing a STUPID BOOK from me…THEN? I decided I HAD IT? Over a book???? 😛
I guess that was the lowest of the low…it was so trivial and ridiculus I saw to just what level he was willing to go to…and lie again to my face about it…
Have I said he’s an ass? He’s an ass
One Step…
OKey..dokey…..THAT puts it into perspective! Ahhhhhhhhh ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha 😛
heheheeeeheeeee! 🙂
ahh, the page that broke the camel’s back!
kindheart48,
I posted this link yesterday:
http://www.thestar.com/news/ontario/article/762152–cfb-trenton-commander-faces-2-homicide-charges
And for those of us who do not know, Trenton is a small Canadian town (north of Rochester, NY), where the military is the only game in town, so everyone will be rocked by this.
The Dept/ of National Defense have said that they will investigate murders in the other cities/ towns where The Commander has been posted. The authorities obviously have a great deal of interest in him or this piece of information wouldn’t have broken as quickly as it has, given that the information about his arrest has only been in the news for a day or so.
It will be interesting to see what information shakes out about the Commander over the coming weeks. I suspect they will find a trail of destruction behind him. That his wife is a high level ’helper’, aka non profit director, is no surprise to any of us here.
One step at a time – LOL’s …
Aerobics (sorry i just forget exactly how you spell it and too tired to scroll up:) – Im so glad you thought about why you originally went NC – and on top of that you remembered all the other CRAP he pulled on you — and “hung around” because you let him until you finally kicked his fraudulent a@.......@ to the curb! Hes a loser – we dont stay in contact with Losers anymore!!
He treated you way less than you deserve!! Keep on keepin on! Focus on the possibilities ahead ! 🙂 good for you!!!
One Step, like you im interested in the wife as well and it’s sickened me to think of all the people who looked up to this creep and what it is going to do to the moral , one really bad egg can ruin alot . I just hope they learn from this experience , unfortunately it’s too late for at least two of the women , makes me question why some got out alive. I agree with you that they will find a trail as well, i am a little puzzled as to why they don’t think he would fit the profile of a predator but then again different types of predators which brings me to the detective , he certainly had his knowledge as that was his area of expertise, im sure they looked pretty up the DSM compared to his n/s wife. What a world im starting to see. kh
Oh and One Step i read that along with his degree in Political Science, he had a Master In Defence studies, bet that came in handy. Was reading up a bit o n the women , kind, sweet, it’s a dam travesty and an embarrassment to Canadians.
What Aloha said further up reflects exactly how I think/used to think.
Before the “bad man” I was people-pleasing and naive, blown aorund by the winds of others desires.
Now I’m much more grounded and strong in my self. Selfish but not in a bad way. Looking after myself.