Although it has been many years and there is a new relationship, a friend of mine still wishes every day that the sociopath that preyed on her will “drop dead.” Wishing and hoping that some horrible end will come for the sociopath takes up time and energy in my friend’s life; as she searches for evidence that something bad has indeed happened to the sociopath and then is disappointed.
Recently, I discussed the topic of forgiving psychopaths with a psychopathy researcher who is not a clinician. He said he received a letter from someone complaining that friends were pressuring the victim to forgive. It was the psychopathy researcher’s opinion that people should NOT be told they have to forgive a psychopath.
Upon reflecting on this opinion, I believe that this psychopathy researcher may have a special insight that informs his view —that psychopaths should not necessarily be forgiven. Perhaps this insight is: in spite of their brain disorder, psychopaths still have a choice about what they do.
My son is now 7, he and I rough and tumble play every day. It is impossible to wrestle and not have some kind of slight hurt come to one or the both of us. From the time he was very young, perhaps as young as 3, my son has appreciated the idea that mommy didn’t “do it on purpose”. If he pokes me in the eye or lands rough on my stomach he’ll say “Sorry, I didn’t do it on purpose.”
This example illustrates our inborn social contract that says we do not hurt each other on purpose. If hurts happen in the course of life, they are usually unintended side effects of other behaviors and so should be forgiven. Cheating on a spouse could even be forgiven as an unintentional hurt if the person succumbed to temptation in a moment of weakness, realized the wrong committed, then repented. Even murder is not punished as much if it is an accident.
The problem with sociopaths is that their behavior is no accident. They hurt people on purpose, carefully planning, then executing their plans. After 7 years of reading research articles and talking to victims, I believe choice is part of a complete explanation of sociopathy and victimization. If you watch any of the TV shows about sociopaths you too will see that the theme of their choices permeates the media.
Friday night, Gangland on the History Channel told the story of Billy Wadd, a member of the Devil’s Disciples motorcycle gang who gained notoriety when he broke the biker’s code of silence and testified against his nephew who murdered a family during a home invasion. Wadd said he decided to aid the prosecution of his nephew, John Wolfenbarger, instead of “taking care of things the usual way” because “You just don’t kill kids.” It is clear he believed these murders were performed with an intention that not even another sociopath could accept, so even sociopaths believe in their own capacities for choice.
Now let’s reconsider whether victims should be told they have to forgive. It seems there is a natural human instinct that says forgiveness is reserved for accidents, unintended consequences, and perhaps intentional slights that are out of character. How then can you ever forgive a psychopath?
Psychopaths have been compared to predators. I think this analogy is seriously flawed. A predator such as a lion or wolf has to kill in order to survive. Psychopaths don’t hurt for survival. They hurt because they want to, because they like hurting. Their enjoyment of hurting increases the likelihood they will choose to hurt if given the opportunity. They also seek out opportunities to hurt -not for survival but for pleasure.
Since sociopaths, with intention, repeatedly violate our inborn social contract, perhaps they should never be forgiven.
Instead of forgiving, I hope, my friend, you will think about all this and thoroughly digest the reality of the sociopath you shared life with. The reality is terrible— you shared life with a truly evil person, someone who regularly, with malice and forethought, chooses to harm others. Don’t stop hoping to see the day the scourge of this evil person’s existence will be wiped from the Earth, but do not waste any more of your time on him.
onestep i was going to suggest the same thing sky did – look for a person who has the same allergen sensitivities as you…
There are just so many “crazies” out there. I keep telling everyone about my new theory…85% are nuts….lol
I used to say that 50% of the people roaming the earth are “crazy”. Now, as I am older, I really see why there isn’t “peace” on earth!
I say this, because I decided to try to rent a room I built last year, for my daughter. It has a separate entrance on the side of the house..but no bathroom.
I just refinanced my house after 2 long years of failed mediations. The bank finally did it. But, because I have been so behind, the payments are high. Not much higher than the rental homes here…so I decided to take the offer and stay in my home.
I put an ad on craigslist. OMG…I can’t believe the scam artists out there! I won’t take anyone in that isn’t local, and female…and if it takes me a year..I will wait for the right one . …someone that needs a place to “hang their hat” and isn’t home alot! lol
I am also going to begin substitute teaching in my district, to supplement my income…which will be good for me…to get out into the arena again.
Anyway, I’ve had roommates when I was single. Once girl became one of my best friends even though she moved away across the country. Another one, a guy, was no problem..never saw him since we worked separate hours.
Then, when my xhusbsocio abandoned me with 3 kids..I took a single woman in and she was excellent. Only saw her minimally.
But, now that my girls are young teens…I am more selective.
I had scam artists email me about sending me certified money orders to hold the place. The bank said to report them..the IP addresses. I googled the “scam” and how they are fake money orders and they overpay and then ask to be sent the “difference” back…which would end up on me!..MY money!
My g/f paid for concert tickets from craigslist and sent 200dollars and never got the tickets. They disappeared!
So, its really difficult “out there” and I am teaching my girls to absolutely trust NOONE in this world…that “your best friend will stab you in the back” if you don’t choose your “friends” wisely. It happenned to me twice. And, on the job, there is always someone around the corner trying to stab you in the back and “get you”.
I hate to be so negative, but I don’t expect anyone to be trustworthy, honest , and caring anymore. If someone ends up being a good person, it will take time for me to find that out. I will NEVER trust anyone again. I’m ‘bulletproof’ now, and have learned to be “cautious” and “aware” in life.
So, its a crap shoot when you meet a total stranger and get involved too quickly and think that they are really sincere and your “friend”.
Odds are that most aren’t sincere.
Yes, its a big bad world out there. Sorry to say. And, I am hoping that my girls are going to be wiser and stronger than me.
And, I am going to really screen anyone that I allow into my home. I would rather work 2 jobs than get involved with another sociopath.
One Joy,
I don’t blame you for being bummed out about this not working out. Finally, you have someone in your life you can share a little bit with…and she ups and moves..Geez.
I’d take Skylar’s advise about finding someone who has just as much reaction to chemicals as you do. THAT would be a great match, since you have it all down, that information is great. Imagine a roomie who is just as concerned about mold/dust as you are???
How about your new assistant? Have you got them yet? I’d like to be your assistant. I’m real good at it..yes ma’am, no ma’ammmmmm, No SIR!! 🙂
ToBeHappy – DO NOT advertize on craigslist for a roomate ..that is way to risky.
Sky – okay, everyone is saying the same thing. you all are seeing this as a step, and are responding like this is not so serious. because i trust you all i am going to take your lightness about it seriously.
I was trying sky – i have kicked out other people because the mold things was severe. this i thought we could deal with. wasn’t sure of course, but she brought so little with her, i thought it was possible. i have had to deal with all sorts of remediation re mold, and i just work through them the best I can. if i could have dealt with all of this within 2 weeks – well the damage was already done the moment i got the first whack of mold.
and yes, i bonded to having a funny smart person in my house. definitely. i ‘sacrifice’ all the time with the MCS – i couldn’t walk down the street otherwise, i couldn’t work, i couldn’t shop for food…
MCS is complex and finding someone with the same sensitivities is not probable. A lot of people with MCS talk about nothing but, and I sure don’t want that. i am not so attracted to that idea.
I want to heal from this and be more able again.
Ana – I wrote the job description today and met with the person I want to take the job – someone i know who has worked with the organization before. don’t know that she will take it. am sad about that too.
and you so have to stop saying ‘yes ma’am, no ma’ammmmmm, No SIR!! to me. it’s too damn sexy.
Hens…I did get a few local people who are looking for a place…I don’t know where else to advertise.
craigslist is a goldmind for scammers and scum – perverts and dangerous people – i have heard to many horror stories associated with cl…maybe call a realestate managment co. – you would have to share bathroom and kitchen – maybe it would be easier to just get married to a rich man?
tobehappy – when i rented to students, i listed at the uni and on kijiji. don’t know if you have kijiji where you are…the students use it a lot here, and it isn’t the cesspool that craigslist is.
i also connected with someone at the uni who was in charge of placing overseas students from her program. I connected with her via word of mouth, but a uni with a lot of international students may have people doing this. she was a really good source of students (these were all doctorate or post doctorate students).
what about community centres, churches, yoga studios….i know there are crap people everywhere, but craiglist is just such a huge risk.