“Suddenly, everything made sense, I was not crazy, I had been dealing with a psychopath!” explained a woman this week as she told the story of how she discovered “psychopathy” and Dr. Hare’s diagnostic symptoms. With this discovery, she learned that a personality disorder is behind the behavior of people who manipulate and harm others without guilt or remorse. Prior to learning about psychopathy, the woman said she held the view that all people were basically good and needed the same things. Understanding psychopathy/sociopathy gave her the ability to make sense of a world where a small fraction of individuals do a tremendous amount of harm- AND YET THESE INDIVIDUALS ON THE SURFACE SEEM PERFECTLY NORMAL.
As we discussed the kidnapping of Jaycee Lee Dugard, that same woman questioned whether Phillip Garrido (the kidnapper) is “a psychopath.” She tended to think that Garrido, “Is not a psychopath” and that schizophrenia or some delusional disorder was behind Garrido’s monstrous behavior. According to my friend, “a psychopath” is not mentally ill, is in contact with reality, and yet perpetrates evil anyway. For her the appearance of sanity is an essential characteristic of a psychopath/sociopath.
This week I want to discuss Garrido, and Brian David Mitchell (Elizabeth’s Smart’s kidnapper). These two men are strikingly similar. But first I have to tell you about my own moment of awakening with regard to psychopathy. Just like my friend’s moment, my moment made sense of the world, however it came after years of experience with antisocial people and after years of reading about the disorder. In my moment I realized that psychopathy explains evil.
Yes, I said psychopathy explains evil. This statement is true even though people who are not “psychopaths” do plenty of evil. Because psychopathy explains evil, its importance extends far beyond enabling us to identify the most recidivist criminals, or those who we should avoid going on dates with.
How did it come to pass that psychopathy explains evil? My friend is correct in that originally psychopathy (more than 100 years ago) was called “moral insanity.” It was conceived of as a disorder where people who have an intact mind repeatedly violate the rights of others. Then, Dr. Hervey Cleckley intensively studied the case histories of those he believed to be “psychopaths.” From his experience with many cases Dr. Cleckley developed a list of traits he believed could be used to identify those with the disorder.
Dr. Robert Hare took those traits and used them, along with other personality disorder criteria to develop the PCL-R which is now the best way to “diagnose psychopathy.” Forensic professionals have administered the PCL-R to thousands of offenders and to people with substance abuse issues. From these studies we know that “psychopathy” is actually not a category it is a continuum. In fact the PCL-R scores of offenders are all markedly elevated above those of general population samples (like college students). There is no absolute cut-off score that identifies “true psychopaths.” Instead, for every point increase in score the risk of doing evil increases. The PCL-R is a very good measure of an individual’s risk to offend against others and society.
Psychopathy, as currently measured by the PCL-R is then a trait that is present in everyone to a greater or lesser degree. This trait cuts across diagnostic categories. Think of it like you would intelligence as measured by IQ tests. Everybody has an IQ but it is only when the scores are very high or very low that they come to define or categorize a person. Psychopaths are the equivalent of geniuses who score so high and are so different from average that this difference becomes a defining quality.
Scientists use a cut score of 25-30 on the PCL-R to identify and study “psychopaths.” When studying psychopaths scientists exclude from their studies people who also have other obvious defining qualities like mental retardation and delusions/hallucinations. By looking at the “pure” top end of the distribution they can study those who are most prone to doing evil and try to determine the brain disorder that underlies doing evil. People at the top end are more likely to be measurably different from other people.
Since the psychopaths researchers study are free from other disorders, any brain findings can be attributed to psychopathy. In such studies, several brain abnormalities have been found and linked to the behavior of psychopaths. The brain regions found to be abnormal in psychopaths are those regions demonstrated to be responsible for moral loving conduct in all of us. Abnormalities are also seen in those regions where aggressive impulses originate.
Again, using the analogy of intelligence, if we study what makes geniuses smart we learn something about what makes the average person smart. When we study what is wrong with psychopaths we learn something about what causes all of us to express and act on aggressive impulses.
In broader studies, scientists have discovered that the people who score over 25 on the PCL-R are a diverse group. While they share the symptoms of psychopathy, they may differ in important ways including the presence of other psychiatric disorders and mental retardation. Some psychopaths are also mentally ill above and beyond the psychopathy. Some experience delusions, particularly grandiose delusions and some hallucinate. There are many people who have delusions and hallucinations and yet do not harm others because psychotic disorders usually do not impair the moral brain, and the content of their delusions or hallucinations does not produce aggression.
Both psychotic and non-psychotic psychopaths experience increased impulses to harm others and they lack the moral brain mechanisms to restrain these impulses. That gets me to Garrido and Mitchell. Both men have grandiose delusions and have impaired contact with reality. However, both were organized enough to plan and carry out kidnapping and sexual assault. (This is actually evidence for psychopathy since psychopathy has been linked to sexual assault and sexual perversion in many studies.)
Both Garrido and Mitchell are also psychopathic enough so that the cries and suffering of their victims and their victim’s families meant nothing. Both remain self absorbed and have failed to show any real remorse for their actions. In fact, Garrido said in one of his news interviews that we would all come to see his story as “heart warming.” It makes intuitive sense that if a psychopath were to develop delusions, they would be of a grandiose nature since grandiosity is part of the disorder. The psychosis just exaggerates what is already there. Similarly when psychopaths hallucinate, they hear voices that tell them how wonderful and special they are. Of course G-d and angels talk to them!
In summary, I believe Garrido and Mitchell are both highly psychopathic. They both have disorders in multiple brain systems, including those important in reality orientation and those involved in the generation and inhibition of aggressive sexual impulses. One of my supervisors called such individuals schizopaths (combined schizophrenia and psychopathy). Schizopaths are the most dangerous individuals in our society because they have no restraint over the impulses generated by the psychotic process.
On this blog, we have talked about the need for laws to protect society from psychopaths. In my opinion, it makes sense to start with schizopaths. Offenders identified with both psychotic and psychopathic tendencies should be considered a special group. After even one serious offense, these individuals should be kept incarcerated or hospitalized to protect the public. One strike you’re out is justified because of the chronic nature of combined psychopathy and psychosis.
Next week, the female accomplices of Garrido and Mitchell.
skylar:
My daughter is 26 years old. Was a very good kid, even a great teenager…she went several years to a local Christian college -was good then. Then— she went to the University away from home [stayed with my older daughter]and changed completely. Went thru a really wild stage at twenty and then settled down, married and had a daugher….and now has very liberal actions/beliefs. Oh no….I can’t tell her anything…NOBODY tells her anything NOW…..she is one tough female. When I even try- she cuts me off and takes my granddaughter from me. I experienced this last week. I dared speak out and have an opinion and boom….I have my granddaughter whisked from me crying. I am not afraid or a wuss at all, as I was not with my PX but these people use other very cruel ways of breaking/power playing you even if they have to use your love for them to do it….
TB,
Your older daughter had the affair with your husband right?
if so, then she is so obviously a P that she will contaminate all around her.
It doesn’t sound like there is too much hope, but if you insist on having contact, MAYBE she will agree to only discuss issues that you both agree on. Such as your love for your GD and for her. If you choose to abstain from commenting on her bad behavior, with time, she may come around to seeing how good your life is. She may want that for herself and choose to emulate you.
skylar:
Yes, my older daughter did have the affair with my x hub…the father of the younger daughter. I agree on P- this older one is extremely N also. I did not know of the affair when I allowed my younger daughter to live with her. I suspect that is why my older daughter so readily allowed her to come there now that I know the truth. 🙁 No wonder my PX hub freaked when she went to live there….dirty little secret.
Well, as of now: I have gone NC even with my younger daughter. As we all agreed on here: not good for gd to allow daughter to use her as a ‘pawn’. All this just makes me sick…literally. My nerves are shot and my immune system shut down in Jan and I was sick for six months. So, whenever this crap starts again…I am down for days/weeks. I am forced to go NC to survive.
I do wish I could strike a ‘deal’ with my daughter regarding my gd. I will try soon. Right now, I am still ‘reeling’ from the last drama scene. *gasp*
Thank you for your encouragement! I sure hope she does change her mind/ways. I feel pretty hopeless about it tho…right now, anyway. Sick as it sounds, she is buddies with her dad now and they both see eye to eye on bad behavior. She tolerates his and he tolerates hers and then when they hit a ‘battle of wills’ they both resort to name calling and slinging power plays at each other. So, now they share the same ‘lack of values’. Instead of her sharing my values…..isn’t that the way it goes….
Dear Twice Betrayed:
I have a 28year old daughter who was the best until high school. Raised in a Christian environment as well. I was a divorced mother and I gave her a good life. She went bonkers in high school and I ended up having to get help to get her off drugs.
Since the age of 16, she has had a personality disorder with angry outbursts and verbal abuse. Ever since reading here on this site, I am able to identify that she might be sociopath as well.
Sad to say……she has an uncontrollable temper…..bullies me and her husband. Her verbal abuse and disrespect to me is unbelievable…..
She will also whisk my grandson away if she doesn’t like what I say or if I have friends over that she doesn’t like…..as if I harbor “bad” people…….etc
She has taken so much from me and I recently told her (due to reading on this site and learning from everyone, esp OxDrover,) that I have a limit,. If she did not stop her abuse and bulling then I would have no contact with her or her family.
I told her how I felt and that either she stopped or I would. She still complained but she started to get it when I did not return calls or answer the phone. It took a lot for me to do this but it has been better…
I am convinced she has mental problems and she has been seeing a doctor for other issues and thank god, he is seeing her problems and trying to help her to some solutions.
Believe me I know what you are talking about…..I have had enough with the SP boyfriend of recent and sandwiched between him and my daughter it is no wonder I feel depressed…..
Vision:
I so relate totally. I am sorry you have the same sad situation to deal with ….it’s terrible!! I have wondered if my daughter [and my xhub] have some other issues other than P/N. I know they frequently do go hand in hand. I suspect my PX hub may be schizoid too.
My daughter does not want me to go NC but she won’t budge her will…..she tells me basically…I do it my way or you don’t get to be in my life or my daughter’s. I am not trying to boss her or even change her…I just want her to back off me, stop bossing and running over me…and stop the ‘drama’ that she accuses others of doing. If the day is going good when we visit or she sees I am feeling happy….uh oh….she starts the ‘drama scene’ by pushing people’s buttons. Before long: I am upset, baby is crying and everyone is blown out but….my daughter- who has accomplished what she wanted….everyone in pain and upset. Especially me. I can’t take it anymore. It’s nonstop games….and her favorite is to pit me against another family member or friend…I won’t play….but she will get the ‘friend’ to do it. Once: I had my sick gd literally forced from my arms by one of her ‘friends’ while this friend was telling ME how to raise my gd. This gal has a degree in child psych….heck, I’ve got a degree in motherhood….and besides that…that is my gd…not her kid. My daughter backed up the friend and I was basically forced to leave after my daughter had called me to drive miles to care for my gd. I never said one bad word to anyone….but I left in tears that time also and so was my gd screaming for me again. It’s just a no win situation and I so worry about my gd………….
You said it…..Drama…..I cannot go anywhere with my daughter….If we go somewhere she will start up about anything….I am taking the wrong road…..she knows a better one and now I am wasting time….(we were just out for a drive and dinner)
We get to the dinner and there is a car show. Instead of enjoying it she gets huffy and puffy…..We get a reservation and walk around the cars…..all the time she is fighting with her husband, my grandson is getting upset and finally (3 1/2) he is crying uncontrollably.
In the whole show, no one was going through this. It was horrible….Then my daughter and her husband start to fight and we all just go home. I was not allowed into the house and was told to go home. I had bought the food to go but I am now asked to leave…..Whew!!!
She is drama, drama…..She is a walking volcano waiting to erupt at anything that gets to her…..
Then for a while she will be okay….but mostly she is stressed. Many times I had to drop my gs off with him screaming to go with me….he feels peaceful with me as opposed to her yelling and screaming……Then she asks me what I do with him to make him “not act right” when he returns…..?
Well, I worry my gs will be effected by her outbursts…..The only thing I can do is offer a safe and loving place for him to come to. I would just make as much peace with our daughters as possible, not sweat the small stuff with them, so we can continue to see our grand kids…
I think that some of the most insidious Ps are the ones who are just below the “obviously psychopathic” level. These people are borderline and can look and act and pass as normal. Maybe they even occasionally are normal for short periods. It makes it harder for outsiders to see the damage they do to their victims.
“He seems alright to me.”
“He holds a job.”
“He doesn’t do drugs.”
What could you possibly be complaining about?
The ones that kidnap, rape, murder, torture in an obvious way are quickly jailed. The ones that torture only the wife or children behind closed doors can pass as normal for years, maybe forever.
nottakingitanymore,
You said it.
It’s the sinister aspect that drove us here to LF.
and that’s what keeps us here because no one else understands – how could they? Dr. Jekyll is everywhere but how do you know until he turns into Mr. Hyde? then you’re running for your life.
Yesterday, I arrived at uni and decided to get a coffee as i was tired from working an hour hour shift. I was in the cue when i was approached by cluster B art teachers fan club, “You still owe me an apology, can we talk?” she said very quietly (lots of people around).
Me: “I don’t owe you an apology because i have done nothing wrong. I don’t need to have a talk with you, because whatever it is its nothing to me and i don’t care.
ClsterB: You don’t respect me, I want to know whats going on you have to stop doing what you are doing.
Me: I respect your work. I am not doing anything. Nothing is going on.
B: (yells) We will see about that! I don’t want to have our talk now. She runs off.
I had my coffee. Then wondered back toward the class room. It is now evening. The psychopath teacher storms out of the
building with the phone at her ear and smoke in her mouth, pacing. She spots me.
P: ( Angry)Tilly! There you are! I was just trying to call you! What is going on?
Me: Blank stare.
P: You have to tell me what is going on. I will get to the bottom of this. Whoever is saying things about me will be charged with slander and thrown out of uni. Do you know who it is?
Me: I don’t know who it is or anything about it.
P (change of tack…fake concern): Is everything alright Tilly? You would tell me if everything is not alright, a few people have said things to me and I am about to go in and front the whole class on it. What havn’t you told me. You must tell me. Did you send the other teacher Joe an email. He said you did. he won’t show me it. I have asked him too. What was in it?
Tilly’s inner P says: I sent Joe an email about sue who keeps asking me to apologise to her and keeps confronting me. That is all. It must be a miscommunication.
P: Well i have had a gut full of this!! Someone is slandering me and i will get to the bottom of it. And I warn you, do not sit next to those young girls because i have spies out and they are going to get whats coming. What do you talk to them about?
Tillys inner P: Oh only shallow stuff, like clothes and movies and stuff.
P: Well I am warning you, do not speak to them. I know you have issues with Mary and Jo ( her fan club the cluster Bs), so I want you to tell me everything. How is your essay and your video and painting going let me see it.
Tillys inner P: No, I only have issues with Sue because she keeps telling me I owe her an apology but she wont state why. I am fine with Jo and mary. I have handed all my work into the other teacher.
And on it went.
During the class (while the class is on..I get texts/sms from Jo and mary “whats going on” etc. I don’t answer them. They are furious. “why don’t you answer” etc. I turn my phone off.
Then after the class she bailed me up again, as I was leaving, outside in the dark.
I forgot my easy off.
Tillys inner P: (hugging her) Are you alright? Is there anything I can do for you?
P: She is livid and pulls away screeching threats about slander and legal action.
Tillys inner P: (hugging her again..it feels like i am hugging a brick shithouse)” let me know if I can do anything for you”
P: I will get to the bottom of this.
When i was in that class, I made it a point to sit with the younger girls and chat with them.