Defense attorneys for Jerry Sandusky, the former assistant football coach at Penn State who is accused of molesting 10 boys, may argue that the man suffers from histrionic personality disorder. So what is it? Lovefraud readers sent links to articles that explain:
What is histrionic personality disorder? on CNN.com.
What is histrionic personality disorder? on Health.Yahoo.net.
Skylar, it’s a statistical medical fact that women, primarily, develop any number of autoimmune disorders if they have endured violence/abuse.
I’d be interested to know how many LF readers have been diagnosed with an autoimmune disorder. I’ve been diagnosed and it was interesting how the exspath treated me afterwards – as if I were some sort of millstone around his neck. And, he “planned” outings that severely taxed my physical limitations – sort of rubbing my nose into my own disease as if to remind me of my physical deterioration. Very cruel, actually.
7stepstoheaven, by any chance, are you involved in counseling therapy or a support group? You’ve experienced the whole gambit of traumas, and it may be an option for you to consider if you’re not already engaging in counseling. Seeking out counseling doesn’t mean that we’re crazy, inept, or stupid. If our plumbing leaks, we call a plumber. If our car needs a new transmission, we take it to a mechanic. If our emotional health is out of our control, a good, strong therapist that “gets it” is worth more than their weight in gold, IMHO.
Brightest blessings to you
Hi…..i’m EB, and…..I have an autoimmune disease.
I just heard the news that Sandusky’s defense is exploring using a ‘mental disorder’ as a defense.
This shows the big gap between what attorneys are reaching for……..and what medical professionals diagnose as insanity.
Histrionic PD does not qualify as an ‘insanity’ defense! Typical DUMBSHITS!!!
((Truthspeak)),
thanks for validating my feelings. I have a hard time validating them for myself, it’s not something I learned to do as a kid.
Yes, I’ve had autoimmune problems since I was a child. Lots of food allergies, skin rashes, hay fever, wheat and milk allergy. I believe it was from living with the the N-parents.
When I was with the spath I developed what I thought was fibromyalgia, then later, chronic fatigue. When I left him all the symptoms disappeared –and so did the food in the refrigerator. Then he admitted he had been putting strychnine in my food for 25 years (among other things).
Grace – You sound pretty upset – like someone in the past questioned your rape since you could not remember all the details. I know that what you say is true about trauma causing a blanking out. I remember very little of my childhood – it is like I have big holes in my memory bank and I have been told that it is symptomatic of the abuse I suffered.
I do know that the opposite is also true and false memories can be implanted (I’d like to implant some seriously happy ones in my own head!)
I thought Sky’s questions was good in that given all the other family members behavior it could be possible that the birth father was not the monster portrayed. (Or am I confused and the question was about the step dad?)
A friend of a friend – someone I know but not well – was raising her daughter alone and she married a man from the military and he helped raise this little girl. He was very, very good to the Mom and child – he loved the mom very much so I was told. Then, at about age 16 the girl told her mother that the stepfather had been molesting her. The mother had a hard time believing her daughter bt she did the right thing. She divorced the man and he went to military prison for a few years. He claimed he was innocent to no avail. Years later the daughter ended up confessing to her mother that she had lied. That girl had destroyed her stepfather and her own mother’s life for whatever reason. The stepfather at this point was out of jail and remarried.
It is so hard to know the truth at times.
Re: the ‘false memory’ discussion: I’m going to come down in the middle on this one: I totally get where G1S is coming from, because I too have almost no memories of my childhood (but I have enough really bad ones to know some bad stuff went on, and that my egg-donour is a psychopath and a sadist). And I’m, to say the least, suspicious of most discussions I see around the various ‘false-memory’ trends; particularly since that was one of the two hammers inevitably used to keep me from getting anywhere truthful in my years of excerable therapy and working with the memories I *did* have. It went hand in hand with the other hammer, inevitably brought out by those same therapists – both traditional and feminist – which was that since I was saying it was my mother who was my abuser, and we all *know* women don’t do things like that, therefore I MUST have been imagining it, therefore – voila: “false-memory”. There are certain things that I remember, that I’ve always remembered. No memory implantation possible. The only thing I needed was to ‘denormalize’ my understanding of them. Took me years to ‘realize’ that not all loving caring mothers force-vomit their children and then… well, I don’t need to continue, I’m sure you get the picture. And I’m sure most people here can understand how brainwashing under torture can convince you to accept the most heinous abuse as ‘normal’ – particularly when you have no-one validating your reality, and everyone supporting your ‘wonderful’ abuser, and pulling out the ‘false memory’ card as a defence against hearing things they may not like.
Realizing the truth about what happened to me wasn’t false memory implantation, it was a reality check. It’s been my experience that manipulative &/or cowardly mental health professionals LOVE to pull out the ‘false-memory’ card faster than you can blink in order to influence a situation to fit with their idealogy. Which makes it all the harder for anyone to examine this legitimately.
Did I mention that I was touchy about this term?!?
However, if you substitute the term “implanted false family stories” for “false-memory”, I’m totally behind the questions Sky is asking. One of the conditions a few courageous GPs and therapists have asked me about (only ever people I was seeing peripherally for other things) is Munchausen’s by Proxy. My mother is a nurse and fits the profile and my medical ‘history’, none of which necessarily adds up and I’m now realizing is probably more of a ‘her-story’, is full of holes and contradictions, even though I’ve spent most of my childhood with various illnesses (another clue to possible Munchausen’s by Proxy). I finally started to get somewhere when I started to realize that all of my medical ‘history’ was actually stories my mother had told me, and that the only possible way to start to figure it out was to more or less do what Sky was suggesting: to question every single thing I’d ever been told. Not to infer that it was all false, but to acknowledge that disordered individuals almost always mix lies with a sprinkling of truth, and to acknowledge that I can’t know which was which.
Another problem, and I think this is also perhaps what Sky was alluding to here in her questions to “7”, was my perception of my father. Even though my father didn’t leave my mother until I had left home and my brothers had graduated from high school, my mother had managed to pull off a case of ‘parental alienation’ between my father and us, even though we were all in the same house. She had us all convinced, and all saying in unison, that it was my father who was the monster. (But she could never convince me to say she wasn’t a monster herself – the only flaw in her plan.) I didn’t know whom to trust, and ended up going NC with ALL of them, and ended up never seeing my father again (he passed away several years ago, but no-one notified me – another looong story). I’m just now starting to realize how much he’d been slandered – including by me – and just how much I’d let my mother’s lies about him split us up and poison me. The guilt I feel now for going NC with him is massive. He wasn’t perfect by any means – I believe he tried to protect me when I was young but he’d pretty much given up by the time I was in high school and left me to be devoured by her – but he certainly wasn’t a monster. When I was young I remember him being funny and loving, and playful and caring. By the time I was in high school he was a shell of his former self.
But at the time I broke off contact my mother had me convinced (she had EVERYONE convinced) that it was my father who was the monster. But it was all via listening to stories that, when I went back to thing about it, she had planted herself. What I’d missed, for years upon years, was that the stories she told were never about what SHE thought, or what SHE said herself; they were always stories she’d told us about what OTHER PEOPLE had been saying: about my father, about what other people had told her my father had said about me, etc… And there was always ‘lots of corroborating evidence’ from other sources – but always only coming to us from my mother’s mouth. Took me years to realize that the multi-layered reality that I’d thought was coming from so many directions always only had one source.
So that’s not to say that what 7 has heard about her father or step-father is invalid, just that it’s important to question every single piece of information that has come from the mouth of a known slanderer and manipulator. My mother had me convinced of ‘the truth’ and I repeated it to others like the good victim I was, thus providing another point of corroboration for her stories. My guilt now for doing that is almost more than I can handle.
7steps,
I am sorry that you have had such a horrible time in your young life and in your family of origin (FOO) It sounds like some of your sibs are also personality disordered (just like your original dad) and it sounds like maybe your mother is somewhat disordered as well.
Even at 55 I know it is important to feel that your mom loved you, or that your father loved you….I felt the same way, believe me, but I ahve finally come to the realization that my male sperm donor was a Psycyopath and my maternal DNA donor was as disordered as they get as well, and that she never loved me. My family was disordered, my feelings were not validated and in the end, I was devalued and discarded, smeared to the world. I don’t have any sibs except my 3 half sibs (children of my P sperm donor) and they were poisoned against me by my P sperm donor, so I don’t have any sibs at all…and I really am glad I guess because that is less drama I have to deal with.
My own biological sons: one is a psychopath in prison for murder, and the other one is not the kind of man I want for a friend, though he is not a psychopath. I do have an adopted son that is the light of my life though, so I am not totally alone as far as family is concerned.
I have a FEW good friends and those I treasure. I have gone NC with the users and abusers in my life and distanced myself from anyone who is dishonest or unkind. Build your life for YOU, and quit sweating those that would abuse you…I finally came to realize those people who have abused me, are not “family” just because we share DNA. FAMILY is made up of people who love and treat us well, not by sharing DNA. God bless (((hugs)))
Yea, I saw That on the news about Sandusky’s lawyers trying to say he has a “personality disorder”—-but that will be shot down by the prosecution, it is just a pity ploy! He is going to prison or I will eat my hat, feaathers and all!
@Oxy “but that will be shot down by the prosecution, it is just a pity ploy! He is going to prison or I will eat my hat”
On the other hand, didn’t we have a psychopathy researcher go on TV saying that Casey Anthoney DIDN’T have any personality disorder that he could see?