“The motivation (for lying) is particularly baffling in endogenous deceit when the psychopath may appear to have everything he wants yet continues quite predictably to commence the manipulative cycle.” So says Dr. Reid Meloy in The Psychopathic Mind, p121.
“I don’t think they even eat an ice cream cone just for pleasure, I think they do everything for the effect it has, or the image it presents. It isn’t about what is REAL it is about what they can appear to be. To them, I think, if they can get others to believe it, then it becomes “reality” as far as they are concerned.” So says Ox Drover in a comment on this blog.
There is complete agreement about one thing regarding sociopaths, that is lying defines them. While studies show that many people lie daily, the lying behavior of sociopaths differs in both degree and kind from “normal” lying. Sociopaths do not just misrepresent the truth in small ways to spare someone’s feelings, avoid an argument or avoid trouble. Sociopaths misrepresent themselves and this misrepresentation extends to everyone they know. (For more advanced readers, there may not be much of a self there to misrepresent.)
You don’t need a checklist
So today I can tell you with confidence that you don’t need a checklist of symptoms or a forensic expert. If you are astounded by another person’s capacity to lie and misrepresent reality you can be sure you have encountered a sociopath.
I said a few weeks ago that I think Meloy’s book The psychopathic Mind is a great contribution to humanity. In this book, Meloy puts forth the idea that we can identify “psychopaths” by observing what he calls “the psychopathic process.” I searched the book for a precise definition of “the psychopathic process” and couldn’t find one but he implies that psychopathy is defined by the way a person interacts with others and with him/herself. He also says that it is possible to identify a “psychopath” by the way that person makes you feel. If you can look within yourself and monitor your own reactions you can learn to tell when you are face to face with “the psychopathic process.”
It doesn’t “work” on me anymore!
I have learned what it feels like to be “worked” and because I know what that feels like, “it” doesn’t work on me anymore. Sociopaths do not just lie, they work people. Their relationships are an occupation for them and it’s not just a job, it’s an adventure. They will even work when there is no apparent reason to. Why do they do this? They do this because there is nothing else they can do. They have little or no capacity to look within and find an inner compass of values and pleasures. As Ox Drover points out, the only real pleasure they have is their “work.”
Dr. Meloy gives a great example of a psychopath “at work” on page 138 when he discusses a professional who was “worked” by a psychopath. Knowing that he was going to be assigned a certain probation officer, the psychopath asked others who knew her about her interests. On discovering that the woman was interested in metaphysics and the writings of Alfred North Whitehead, the psychopath went and read the writings. He then gained the respect and admiration of the P.O. because he discussed these writings as if he too had a genuine interest in them that predated his knowledge of her.
Meloy says, “He does not just play the role, observing the limits of his character, but lives the part.” People are taken in by the psychopath’s work because in the moment the psychopath really thinks and feels the part. His part is real and yet also a deception.
You know you are being worked when the things you love/enjoy are mirrored in this way. You can tell the difference between this mirroring and real sharing by the extent to which the other person tries to build your enthusiasm and point to the apparent “twin-ship” you share. This mirroring and twin-ship can occur with big things as in the metaphysics example and it can occur with little things as in the ice cream example.
Now if you know what I am talking about, you have been worked; you are likely far along in the recovery process because you know what this feels like. If you have only a vague notion of what I am saying, Dr. Meloy has other words of wisdom for you.
In the psychopathic process there is a “complete disconnect between words and actions.” If you notice that a person’s actions point south and their words point north, you are dealing with a sociopath. To be concrete, if the person says they love you and either doesn’t spend much time with you, or repeatedly harms and stresses you, you are in the middle of a psychopathic process. But remember since the person “lives the part” at the moment he/she is with you and says “I love you” there is some vague reality to the statement (especially if the person has the disorder in a lesser form, see last week). To see the psychopathic process, you have to train yourself to pay attention to both a person’s words and to remember that person’s deeds at the same time.
If you do this you will be able to see the disconnect between words and deeds and the psychopathic process. If you begin to see the psychopathic process, it is very important that you not share this observation with the psychopath. He or she will not benefit from your feedback and may even become violent. At the moment you see the process, you must discipline yourself and disconnect. If you have problems with self-discipline you likely need a therapist to help you disentangle from the psychopathic process.
Recovery and discovery are about learning to pay attention. Pay attention to yourself and pay attention to what other people say and do. Most people need help in order to learn the skill of paying attention. That is the kind of help a good therapist can give you.
In the next few weeks we’ll talk more about the psychopathic process. Please feel free to share your experience of being worked or the disconnect between words and deeds.
I’ve been reading this thread and someone mentioned their s-ex ending up dying alone. I used to feel sorry for the old man thinking oh gawd, Mr. Gorgeous Teacher/Crush is going to end up alone when he dies (Mother Teresa again) and get this: my older half sister (who is his age and I swear is the model for the cartoon lady Maxine) told me “we get what we have coming”. Yeah, Karma will bite him in the azz and I don’t need to be there to watch it happen.. YEAH BABY!!! 🙂
I will not judge his soul, I just refuse to carry it on MY back!!
adamsrib – grey rock = ignore and move on.
oh my
hi hens…how’s your back and your pup?
and dude, what’s with the ‘oh my’….? 😉
Hi Onestep – My back is better, I have chronic lower back pain, something I just live with. Crickit is back to her usual self, wanting to play all the time. She is a tuff little thing, a survivor like me. I am going to have a garage sale first saturday of oct. they are so much work but I have lot’s of things to sell, been cleaning out everything. Some of my clients have givin me truck loads of stuff and say I can keep the money. It is my hope too make enuff money to buy propane for the winter..Everytime I have a garage sale I say never again, but I have aquired some good chit to sale this time…..and how are you perking this evening Onesteppers?
ouu, garage sales….i haven’t in years but i have both made a bucka and spent a buck. here’s to a winter long fuel supply!
doxies are scrappy. my mom’s boy was so lovley. found some pics of him for her…should print those off tonight and send them to her.
not feeling too well. but other than that not bad at all. looking forward to the weekend worked last weekend, hope to get out to the country this weekend. will be doing a bit of spath watch stuff, but that’s fine. it’s just not triggering me. phone just rang and the screen is burnt on that phone – so i can’t see who it is. so not answering. think tomorrow might be a good day to change my number. 🙂
such a huge weight off.
think my boy neighbor is gay. and a boxer. well, i KNOW he is a boxer…;) his ‘friend’ was here real late and the walls are thin…bless his heart.
OH MY ~! a gay boxer for a neighbor ~ with a friend and thin walls ~! Oh this is going to be better than TV ~! Keep me posted Onestep I need something spicey to think about…
haha – me too! he’s always hanging out with guys. and his sisters. he’s really young – 21. and i have been wondering…’cause there isn’t a girl in sight. will keep you posted. and thanks for saying this – i can see i so need a life when i need the neighbor boy to live through vicariously!
Adamsrib,
“Gray rock” or “Potted plants” are our code word terms for the people we don’t want to respond to because they are just looking for trouble, trying to get in to an argument so we treat them like POTTED PLANTS—-IGNORE THEM COMPLETELY. We talk about gardening, watering plants, or just anything you want to talk about, music, yoiur kids, your yard, watchin paint dry, whatever and thye get bored and go away if we dont respond to them.
It works!