“How did he really feel?” and “What did he want from me?” are two questions that often haunt victims of sociopaths. The reason we are haunted by these questions varies but often stems from the habit of over-focusing on the sociopath instead of ourselves. That being said, victims also have a healthy ”˜need to know’ that can help with recovery and healing.
I struggled with these questions in my own healing. I remain baffled by my observations of enjoyment of affection on the part of sociopaths. Early on, I told my own therapist that I had come to the conclusion that sociopaths exploit those close to them to the point of death, then, cry at the funeral. At the moment the tears are shed, I believe they do represent a grief of sorts. The feelings of loss experienced by sociopaths are however, short lived. Victims also have to beware because, although sociopaths are said to be incapable of feelings for those in their lives, they do become obsessed with them. Psychologists have not yet explained this obsession. If they don’t attach, why are they obsessed? Those who have read my other entries know that I believe that sociopaths do attach. It is what they do with attachments that is disordered.
How did he really feel?
In response to the picture of a sociopath crying at his victim’s funeral, my therapist said, “He feels what he tells himself he feels.” To help you understand what my therapist meant, I will explain what is known about how people usually experience feelings.
There are two components to feelings. The first is a physical sensation. When we experience a feeling we feel something in our bodies in relationship to that feeling. Think about loving someone close to you and sense how your body feels. Is it warmth in your heart? That is usually what people report.
There is much evidence that these physical sensations are disordered in sociopaths. Sociopaths do not generally experience the physical and hormonal changes that go along with feeling emotion. If they do experience them, it is to a lesser degree. Physical responses are blunted.
The second component of feelings is called attribution. Attribution is a cognitive process. When I feel that warmth in my heart as I see my children, I attribute the sensation to my love for them. Thus the physical sensation alone does not make emotion. Emotion is physical sensations and our interpretations of these sensations. There is also evidence that the parts of the brain responsible for attribution do not function properly in sociopaths.
There is one emotion that many sociopaths experience in a not so disordered way. This emotion is anger. Sociopaths do have blunted physical responses to anger. Despite this blunted responsiveness, they seem aware of angry feelings and make correct attributions about what makes them angry. Again, science has not even addressed, much less explained this observation.
Since the physical sensations and attributions that allow for the experience of emotion are disordered in sociopaths, their inner world is very different. They are left to make sense of themselves and others without the tools most of us use. Other parts of the brain fill in the missing processes. The person who is credited with first describing sociopathy in depth is Hervey Cleckley. He proposed that sociopaths are at least of average if not above average verbal intelligence. This makes sense because they have to use their verbal intelligence to make up for their lack of emotions. They do indeed feel what they tell themselves they feel. Scientists say they mimic other people’s emotions, yet again there is no real proof of this.
What did he want from me?
This question is easy to answer intellectually, but very hard for victims to accept emotionally. There are three pleasures we get from our love relationships. The first is pleasure in affection. The second is sexual pleasure. The third is pleasure associated with dominance and control. Sociopaths experience sex and dominance as enormously more pleasurable than affection. Therefore, they are in relationships to get sex and power, pure and simple.
If you love deeply and feel affection for others, you cannot fathom the inner world of an emotionally disordered person whose primary pleasures are sex and power. To understand another’s world you have to imagine yourself experiencing what the other experiences. You can’t do this with a sociopath.
Louise Gallagher said in her post The six steps of healing from a psychopath that the first step is acceptance. We have to accept that we can only know in part how sociopaths really feel and what they want from us. We can understand intellectually, but never emotionally.
Libragirl,
So he left you some of his stuff, hmmm? It’s another one of the tricks of theirs to keep you hooked… it’s an excuse of theirs to promise to come and get it one day, and then don’t, and you’re keeping it as an excuse to break NC.
He owes you money? Then all his stuff that he left is YOUR stuff from now on. THROW AWAY what you wouldn’t even hand to a shelter. Let some friends come and seek through the stuff of what they might find handy. Get rid of ALL HIS STUFF!
It’s what I did. My mom came around t clean out the closet with his stuff: threw lots in the bin, my best friend got a pair of sneakers and jeans out of it, and I kept the bike-gloves for myself… everything else went straight to shelters the same day. And those gloves I kept, I absolutely consider them MINE. It was a great ritual, really part of the healing and cleansing process. I also enjoyed the fact that I made other people HAPPY with his stuff!
Libragirl, please read Darwinsmom’s response to your still having possession of “his stuff.” His STUFF is just that: stuff. It’s a constant reminder that is tugging on you every second it remains in your possession. GET RID OF IT. If he wanted it that badly, he would have collected it long ago. You’re NOT a storage facility, and he is COUNTING on the fact that you are an empathetic human being and that you will PITY him and continue to keep his “stuff” within reach. Get rid of it, dear heart.
That was the very first thing that I did after the exspath left: I began packing up “his” things. I didn’t want to see them, touch them, or HAVE them. I also tore up (TORE UP) every photograph of every trip or event that I had with the exception of about 7 that I took, myself. NOT ONE IMAGE OF HIM remains. All of the drawings that I made during our union were also torn up and discarded. Even though they weren’t rubbish when I made them, they represented a belief that turned out to BE rubbish – so, in the bin they went.
HUGS
(((Truthspeak))) You will see, it’s going to be alright.
Take a deep breath and just know it’s going to be alright.
I am right here, with you.
Dupey
xxoo
It felt great to consider myself as the possessor of his stuff, because I knew there was something he absolutely hated… somebody TOUCHING his stuff and throwing it away. He’d keep garbage, just because he’d consider it his stuff. But everybody else’s stuff was never sacred. He would use my phone all day, but oh my if I would touch the cell phone (that I BOUGHT him). So, considering HIS stuff as mine to do with as I chose felt incredibly liberating!
still reeling:
Hahahaha, I was LOL to your comments…sooooo funny!! Thank you so much for the laugh.
When you said Beatle Boy was one talkative little f*cker…OMG…I cracked up because it’s so true and I got the image in my head of him because he is kind of small and talks alllll the time. Hahaha!! And oh my goodness…you are right! I never thought of it that way that he was talking all the time because he couldn’t get anything out of me so he just kept talking! Wow. Haha, I bet I was frustrating to him…I love it! He even told me more than once I was “mysterious.” 🙂
Haha, and then you said, “He can’t even f*ck properly.” HILARIOUS!!!!!!!!!!!! So true! I love it. He really can’t…something is seriously wrong in that department; goes along with him being so disordered, but why did I think the sex was so great??? It can only be because I was in love with him so I thought anything with him was good…blech.
You said: “Like an ADD puppet in a Ringo wig, with a 34 hr chemically-induced hard-on who still can’t do it right (cause he has no soul or feelilng)!!!” I cracked up so hard!!!!!!!!!!!!! OH, MY!!!!! Hey, I know why Godzilla liked you…you are hilarious!!!!!!!!!!! He obviously must have been attracted to your humor!!!!!
Yep, his daughter…it’s so sad. I have to tell you though…she looks just like him (those eyes!!!!!!), but according to him, acts like her mom. And his son looks like his wife (but with his coloring), yet he acts like his dad. Very sweet, yet conniving. I feel so sorry for his kids. I pray a lot for them…I do. They are innocent and I agree…he should have NEVER had kids…it’s tragic. I truly believe with all my being that he does not LOVE them. They are only possessions to him and he has power knowing he “made” them…he sowed his seed and the children are proof…yuk. UGGHH. They are good kids though…they are on the honor roll at school and are BOTH star athletes, but I think this is all only due to the mom guiding them. And HE knows it. It’s one reason I can guess he stays in the marriage…he KNOWS she is a good mom and is taking care of them when he has NO accountability or responsibility for them at all (except to make the money and bring it home). Very sad.
Wow, your spaths interaction with his son at work was weird!!! You are right…him not disciplining his son just shows how dysfunctional he is!!!!! What a jerk!!!!!!!!!
Take care…I hope you are having a good day today.
still reeling:
Bingo! I feel the same way about one day no longer caring about him…I will also feel that as a loss…like I let go, an emptiness. Not sure why I feel that way, but sounds like I am not the only one.
Same here…one day I asked mine if he was mad at me…he said, “I don’t get mad silly.” Yep, that’s right…you don’t get mad because you can’t even really FEEL anything. That was a tipoff to me.
As long as we cherish the relationship with the pathalogical being for any reason-
longing for contact
wishing for closure
feeling the loss
then, we’re still vulnerable to the next one because we haven’t changed enough to say NO to that kind of experience.
Somehow it seems to me that once the decision is made to say NO, that’s the end of it.
But missing someone who did the kinds of things they do is the open door to the next one.
How many hours and words does it take to get there?
Well, that’s like asking how long a man’s legs need to be. Lincoln said “Long enough to reach the ground” and I think that’s the answer here.
Its about getting grounded enough to say no.
What are the ways that have worked best for you to get grounded so that you could reject the experience and the relationship you had that was abusive, demeaning and possibly dangerous?
Spiritually, I think we empaths are all a part of what I’ll call “Divine Oneness.” to which we will return (we never really left) when it is our time.
I think “spaths” know at some level that they can never belong or be a part of this Wholeness which for them is utterly devastating.
Our purpose is to create. God cannot punish; only observe.
Just my thoughts.
Having problems with my PC
Feel like giving it a slap!
CRS…..Computer Rage Syndrome
Time for a glass of red. 🙂
anam cara,
you actually described it very well. They are called anti-social because they never developed a social bond to humanity. They didn’t bond with their mothers and now they can’t bond with anyone. They feel left out of the human race.
Without connection to the human race, you have no identity in relation to others. That’s why spaths can morph and become whatever they want. That’s also why they envy another person’s “being”, because they don’t have one.
They stand outside the human race observing us.