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“How did he really feel?” and “What did he want from me?”

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January 26, 2007 //  by Liane Leedom, M.D.

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“How did he really feel?” and “What did he want from me?” are two questions that often haunt victims of sociopaths. The reason we are haunted by these questions varies but often stems from the habit of over-focusing on the sociopath instead of ourselves. That being said, victims also have a healthy ”˜need to know’ that can help with recovery and healing.

I struggled with these questions in my own healing. I remain baffled by my observations of enjoyment of affection on the part of sociopaths. Early on, I told my own therapist that I had come to the conclusion that sociopaths exploit those close to them to the point of death, then, cry at the funeral. At the moment the tears are shed, I believe they do represent a grief of sorts. The feelings of loss experienced by sociopaths are however, short lived. Victims also have to beware because, although sociopaths are said to be incapable of feelings for those in their lives, they do become obsessed with them. Psychologists have not yet explained this obsession. If they don’t attach, why are they obsessed? Those who have read my other entries know that I believe that sociopaths do attach. It is what they do with attachments that is disordered.

How did he really feel?

In response to the picture of a sociopath crying at his victim’s funeral, my therapist said, “He feels what he tells himself he feels.” To help you understand what my therapist meant, I will explain what is known about how people usually experience feelings.

There are two components to feelings. The first is a physical sensation. When we experience a feeling we feel something in our bodies in relationship to that feeling. Think about loving someone close to you and sense how your body feels. Is it warmth in your heart? That is usually what people report.

There is much evidence that these physical sensations are disordered in sociopaths. Sociopaths do not generally experience the physical and hormonal changes that go along with feeling emotion. If they do experience them, it is to a lesser degree. Physical responses are blunted.

The second component of feelings is called attribution. Attribution is a cognitive process. When I feel that warmth in my heart as I see my children, I attribute the sensation to my love for them. Thus the physical sensation alone does not make emotion. Emotion is physical sensations and our interpretations of these sensations. There is also evidence that the parts of the brain responsible for attribution do not function properly in sociopaths.

There is one emotion that many sociopaths experience in a not so disordered way. This emotion is anger. Sociopaths do have blunted physical responses to anger. Despite this blunted responsiveness, they seem aware of angry feelings and make correct attributions about what makes them angry. Again, science has not even addressed, much less explained this observation.

Since the physical sensations and attributions that allow for the experience of emotion are disordered in sociopaths, their inner world is very different. They are left to make sense of themselves and others without the tools most of us use. Other parts of the brain fill in the missing processes. The person who is credited with first describing sociopathy in depth is Hervey Cleckley. He proposed that sociopaths are at least of average if not above average verbal intelligence. This makes sense because they have to use their verbal intelligence to make up for their lack of emotions. They do indeed feel what they tell themselves they feel. Scientists say they mimic other people’s emotions, yet again there is no real proof of this.

What did he want from me?

This question is easy to answer intellectually, but very hard for victims to accept emotionally. There are three pleasures we get from our love relationships. The first is pleasure in affection. The second is sexual pleasure. The third is pleasure associated with dominance and control. Sociopaths experience sex and dominance as enormously more pleasurable than affection. Therefore, they are in relationships to get sex and power, pure and simple.

If you love deeply and feel affection for others, you cannot fathom the inner world of an emotionally disordered person whose primary pleasures are sex and power. To understand another’s world you have to imagine yourself experiencing what the other experiences. You can’t do this with a sociopath.

Louise Gallagher said in her post The six steps of healing from a psychopath that the first step is acceptance. We have to accept that we can only know in part how sociopaths really feel and what they want from us. We can understand intellectually, but never emotionally.

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callmeathena
13 years ago

Truthspeak

I too suffer with obsessive thinking about the spath. I am just working through it as best I can. Silvermoon suggested listening to the audio book THE POWER OF NOW and it is helping me a lot. It’s hypnosis, I think.

I love what Darwinsmom said about the flying china. That’s too funny.

I am angry. I excercise too, to try to get rid of it. I schedule things for myself for things with other NORMAL people (work, meetings, volunteering, sports) so that I am forced to get out and get my mind on other things.

I figure, over time, the obsessive thinking and the anger at my spath will lift. But it ain’t gone yet.

HUGS.

Athena

callmeathena
13 years ago

Oh, Truthspeak, Erin B has “backspathed” her spath in some interesting ways – humorous actually —

Athena

callmeathena
13 years ago

Trushpeak, I have one more perspective to share.

Check out the butterfly analogy.

I think it fits us beautifully.

http://180rule.com/denial-is-the-mythology-of-our-future/

darwinsmom
13 years ago

athena,

I am of the opinion that the anger must be channeled towards the cause of it (the spath), but without the cause ever knowing it.

Exercise is great, and it helps you wear yourself out, so you have little energy left to be angry. But for me it doesn’t take the anger away itself.

We have every right to be angry. Part of our closure I am certain lies in being able to ‘confront’ the one who hurt us. The contradiction is of course that we MAY NEVER physically confront them.

The imaginary china throwing was the compromise for me. I was able to throw all my anger at him, accuse him, etc… but he’d never be able to use it against me, or have a power-trip over it… cause he never knew.

We all have our tricks, and there are many… writing scathing letters addressed to him (but never send) that you burn might have a powerful effect to, for example. And if you visualize that with every letter you burn, you’re leaving behind that particular lie/event/betrayal it will enable a person to let that part go. For me the imaginary broken plates were some lie/event/betrayal I let go, and didn’t need to bring up again with regards to the anger feeling anymore.

still reeling
13 years ago

Athena, you said:
“I am angry. I excercise too, to try to get rid of it. I schedule things for myself for things with other NORMAL people (work, meetings, volunteering, sports) so that I am forced to get out and get my mind on other things.”

Can’t emphasize how important it is to be out among other norms and empaths. There are days when you don’t want to be around anyone, that goes without saying or you want to be only with a close friend who understands.

Other times, taking a craft class or something like that can really help and just conversing about normal, everyday things. Can be uplifting to realize there is life, laughter and positive, caring people out there that have nothing to do with “them”.

Small doses, tiny steps. A movie and dinner with a close friend often helps. Sometimes it doesn’t and I can’t wait to get back home, jump in the shower and start obsessing. But other times, it feels fine.

I also try to find something, anything to look forward to, even if it’s the next chapter in a great book or episode in a fave TV show. Then I just focus on that. Anything you can do to take your mind off the path. Eventually, it will fade.

For me, there’s a little fear about that as well, to be honest. The feelings are/were so strong; what can compare? Sometimes we mistakenly believe this immersion in misery is better than the unknown around the corner.

kim frederick
13 years ago

Skylar, Is the Girardian theory and psychopathy website link from above (about the catrpiller turned butterfly) yours? AWSOME. I have to go back there now and investigate.

skylar
13 years ago

Yes Kim, that’s me. I thought you might like it, since you studied literary theory. Thank you for encouraging me and explaining things to me about Girard, way back when I first started looking at GT. It was hard to understand at first and you got me over the hurdle.

Since then, it has been the basis for much of my understanding of spaths. I don’t think Girard knows how much mythology and spaths are connected — perhaps he’s never had a spath attack.

Louise
13 years ago

still reeling:

I do all these things, but they only help for a little while. I just don’t know when I will finally be over this. I know I am probably driving everyone here nuts, but what can I do? Sigh.

I hope you are enjoying your time with your daughter. How old is she? Is that your only child?

MoonDancer
13 years ago

Louise, Your not driving everybody nut’s, thats my job…you will get there louise, dont be so hard on yourself, it took me four years….

Louise
13 years ago

hens:

I love you…thank you for saying I am not driving everyone nuts and no, that’s not your job either 🙂

It’s only (I say only lightly) been two years for me so I guess I should give myself some slack. It’s just that I see other people get over things much more quickly and I am so different.

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