“How did he really feel?” and “What did he want from me?” are two questions that often haunt victims of sociopaths. The reason we are haunted by these questions varies but often stems from the habit of over-focusing on the sociopath instead of ourselves. That being said, victims also have a healthy ”˜need to know’ that can help with recovery and healing.
I struggled with these questions in my own healing. I remain baffled by my observations of enjoyment of affection on the part of sociopaths. Early on, I told my own therapist that I had come to the conclusion that sociopaths exploit those close to them to the point of death, then, cry at the funeral. At the moment the tears are shed, I believe they do represent a grief of sorts. The feelings of loss experienced by sociopaths are however, short lived. Victims also have to beware because, although sociopaths are said to be incapable of feelings for those in their lives, they do become obsessed with them. Psychologists have not yet explained this obsession. If they don’t attach, why are they obsessed? Those who have read my other entries know that I believe that sociopaths do attach. It is what they do with attachments that is disordered.
How did he really feel?
In response to the picture of a sociopath crying at his victim’s funeral, my therapist said, “He feels what he tells himself he feels.” To help you understand what my therapist meant, I will explain what is known about how people usually experience feelings.
There are two components to feelings. The first is a physical sensation. When we experience a feeling we feel something in our bodies in relationship to that feeling. Think about loving someone close to you and sense how your body feels. Is it warmth in your heart? That is usually what people report.
There is much evidence that these physical sensations are disordered in sociopaths. Sociopaths do not generally experience the physical and hormonal changes that go along with feeling emotion. If they do experience them, it is to a lesser degree. Physical responses are blunted.
The second component of feelings is called attribution. Attribution is a cognitive process. When I feel that warmth in my heart as I see my children, I attribute the sensation to my love for them. Thus the physical sensation alone does not make emotion. Emotion is physical sensations and our interpretations of these sensations. There is also evidence that the parts of the brain responsible for attribution do not function properly in sociopaths.
There is one emotion that many sociopaths experience in a not so disordered way. This emotion is anger. Sociopaths do have blunted physical responses to anger. Despite this blunted responsiveness, they seem aware of angry feelings and make correct attributions about what makes them angry. Again, science has not even addressed, much less explained this observation.
Since the physical sensations and attributions that allow for the experience of emotion are disordered in sociopaths, their inner world is very different. They are left to make sense of themselves and others without the tools most of us use. Other parts of the brain fill in the missing processes. The person who is credited with first describing sociopathy in depth is Hervey Cleckley. He proposed that sociopaths are at least of average if not above average verbal intelligence. This makes sense because they have to use their verbal intelligence to make up for their lack of emotions. They do indeed feel what they tell themselves they feel. Scientists say they mimic other people’s emotions, yet again there is no real proof of this.
What did he want from me?
This question is easy to answer intellectually, but very hard for victims to accept emotionally. There are three pleasures we get from our love relationships. The first is pleasure in affection. The second is sexual pleasure. The third is pleasure associated with dominance and control. Sociopaths experience sex and dominance as enormously more pleasurable than affection. Therefore, they are in relationships to get sex and power, pure and simple.
If you love deeply and feel affection for others, you cannot fathom the inner world of an emotionally disordered person whose primary pleasures are sex and power. To understand another’s world you have to imagine yourself experiencing what the other experiences. You can’t do this with a sociopath.
Louise Gallagher said in her post The six steps of healing from a psychopath that the first step is acceptance. We have to accept that we can only know in part how sociopaths really feel and what they want from us. We can understand intellectually, but never emotionally.
Hitandrun:
I like the screen name you chose; it is very apropos. Yesterday you asked, “When does it end?” I am sure that the answer to this question varies from person to person. But when I was “breaking up” with the S/P, a friend of mine told me that it took him about six months to get over a woman whom he had dearly loved (and she was not an SP). I found my friend’s time line to be true. It took me about six months, to experience the sadness, rage, wondering, attempts at some contact and then retreat. IT WILL GET BETTER for you, especially if the S/P is completely out of your life.
LoveFraud helps.
Additionally you said, “I blame my non-ability to just be cool and not point out the inconsistencies as the reason he left.”
Believe me, as much as it hurts, you are fortunate, very fortunate that he left. I was cool; I very often did not point out the inconsistencies because I was too exhausted, because there were too many, because I started to become habituated to not be treated well. Being cool and not pointing out his hurtful, confusing, dishonest, deceptive, and just plain puzzling inconsistencies did not help me. When you pointed those things out, you were saying something is wrong here; you were sticking up for yourself!
I know some S/Ps hang on for years, and I feel very sorry for their victims. But he left because he left. Pointing out his inconsistencies and not being able to stay cool was a good thing. If you had not done that, he would have devastated you further, over a longer period of time, and left anyway when you were no longer convenient. I am glad he left you because you deserve so much more than an S/P.
Thanks FirstThingsFirst.
It was like a fairytale…I used to tease him that I conjured him up
because he did all the things I had written about in my journal
of what I wanted from a man…kind of spooky.
Since it was a long distance relationship, it appeared that he treated me like gold up until the end(when he started acting weird and things did not add up.) And who knows what he was really doing when he wasn’t with me? Just because he emailed me daily and called several times a day, does not mean he wasn’t going out and getting drunk or other things…who the hell knows.
I do know with his new biz, he is working 13 hour days. Not much time to be a drunk face…ha! Ha! Seems like it is very successful so far and that pisses me off.
Anyway, I wish there was one thing I could nail down to convince me 100% he is a sociopath. Is this what they do?
Total con job with my family, his family and friends, too…right until the end when they decide they are done with you?
It’s still pretty fresh, so I am a bit out of my head.
Thank you all…your posts give me a glimpse of hope and sanity.
To: hitandrun and all the others.
It’s a repeating theme. Everyone starts with “he said all the right things!” I just thought possibly this person was just as innocent about love or being in love as I was. WRONG. My gut was screaming at me after about 3 months or so to get out, given certain behaviors that were displayed. I also notice there is a recurring theme about irresponsibility. This man has owned a pretty successful business for about 23 years. The odd thing was he would let certain things just go. Outstanding parking tickets turning to warrants not paying registration on his car, and then to boot he stopped paying his child support. I would get on him about these things and his attitude to me, stunk. At the end of the day it wasn’t right.
And with the ex-girlfriend coming back in the scene, I have to tell you guys after being out of it now for 2 months, I am convinced this is some game they play with each other and I was just a pawn. My thought is I was some sort of chess piece while she would come back into his life and then he would declare his love for her to show her how much of a Knight in Shining Armor he is and then they play off each others sickness. He had explained to me how manipulative his ex-girlfriend was and that’s why they broke up. Well, now I know, they both play each other! Mind you, that did happen in person and I was between the both of them. It was very Jerry Springer to say the least. My last words to him—you two are made for each other, you’re crazier than two sh*t house rats”, got up and walked out! He called and emailed and called and I did NOT respond. Then I noticed he went through anger stage, calling, and she even started calling me. I did NOT respond or pick up calls. These are 46 year olds. That’s crazy!!!! I am just turning 40 and know darn well how sick that behavior is. Best thing I did as my mom told me, completely ignore, just ignore. Give it zero energy”none. And I did, and I feel it has been the best for the entire situation.
Are we all hand picked by these socios? I admit, I am a sucker for thinking everyone has good intention because well, that’s what I project myself. I believe in the good of people, is that wrong? I had awesome roles models as parents and now know that may never be apart of my path in this life, and THAT’S OK! I know now unfortunately what to look for. It just so sad that I’ll have to screen people (which to some degree is sad) for certain behaviors. What has the world come to?
Dear thatgirl,
Welcome to LF! “What has the world come to?” IT’S THE WAY IT HAS ALWAYS BEEN, we just are starting to notice!@....... LOL
Yes, it would be wonderful to think this world was safe and that there is nice down inside everyone but it’s not the case, and yes, we do need to screen others for what their intentions are, but the world can still be a good place as long as we keep out of the cross hairs of the psychopaths and their ilk!
We’re all here to learn about psychopaths and how to avoid them and how to heal from the ones we didn’t avoid! Sounds like you are well on your way to realizing how important NO CONTACT is with these creeps! Good show!
S
Thatgirl70, yeah, I believed in the good of people myself, why didn’t I just put a bullseye on my forehead? The socios seemed to zero in on me. You are right to IGNORE! They hate that, can’t control you anymore!!! They get the message loud and clear!
Thatgirl70, make no mistake, he will play everyone. Whether that former girlfriend is bending over backwards to keep up with him (remember, he’s telling her what he knows she wants to hear) or she really is a Spath too (doubt that very much) she’s being used and abused too. Everyone is like a piece of tissue paper to them. They blow their nose in the tissue and toss it into the waste basket. Never to think about that tissue again, except for the 2 seconds they needed it to blow their nose.
Peace.
Y’all,
It really doesn’t matter what you call it, the kind of weirdness you saw that brought you here is the kind that adds up to a bad partner.
We all wonder how we got fooled and I think as we look back, we see all the same things- the fantasy come to life- every thing we wished for turned sour or run away or well, there is always an end to the story.
And the good news is, there was a finite point in yours when you had the chance to be free and to heal.
Here’s to the Brave Hearts new and old who survived this far and all the good things that come from being free again.
Vive la liberty!
Well thanks everyone for your input. The strangest experience thus far. NOT TO BE REPEATED.
And to Wini: You are probably right. When that episode happened in person, I remember looking in her eyes and seeing, gosh, sadness and weakness if that makes sense? Almost what I could have been, if I didn’t get out. It was my only trip to the Twilight Zone.
I am super hopeful for great, unconditional love though….if that makes me a sucker, oh well! : D
Joy and Light!
ThatGirl70, you probably saw frustration and fear in that woman’s face. Frustration from her constantly bending herself into a pretzel to please a monster who can never be pleased by another. Fear, because his taste about her is constantly changing. He, like so many others searches outside themselves for healing instead of realizing the simple truth, only they can heal themselves. But, since their ego goes into full throttle during the slightest hint of insecurity … they refuse or can’t/won’t ever come to the conclusion that they have issues … that’s why the continued blame game with EVERYONE. It’s such a sick, perpetual cycle that goes on until someone stops them … but, most people do not have the finances to stop them (thanks to our court systems and all the greedy attorneys out there insuring everyone pays through the nose to get justice). What a mess our country is.
God help us!
hit and run,
Mine dumped on me..
I had asked him to move out of my house during an argument..
And I had gotten very upset one day telling him that I was tired of being the man responsible for everything..
then he went out of town on business.. and when he was on his way in.. I was hoping that the plane would crash.. How wacko is that..
Then he walks in the door with flowers and tells me that he is leaving for Florida that weekend and moving out.
He slammed me.. just like he slammed me in the beginning..
when he realized that I was on to him and his promises and he realized I was callling him on issues and the way things were.. he leaves…
we communicated for awhile and he visited me.. but he soon became involved with his children.. ones he hadn’t see but once in the year that we were together.. and he wanted me to move to be with them.. it became all about him again..
I then dumped him for good.. but not he won’t even respond when I eamail to inquire what he wants me to do with his things..
This is a short version.. but I was dumped before I could do the dumping and it hurts in a wierd way…
As it is double insulting..and even though I wasn’t happy.. it left me reeling the way that he did it.. with flowers…
And it was like he had little emotion about it.. like now I am here and now I am there.. after all the love love love talk..
I am still wierded out about my experience with this hit and run man…