“How did he really feel?” and “What did he want from me?” are two questions that often haunt victims of sociopaths. The reason we are haunted by these questions varies but often stems from the habit of over-focusing on the sociopath instead of ourselves. That being said, victims also have a healthy ”˜need to know’ that can help with recovery and healing.
I struggled with these questions in my own healing. I remain baffled by my observations of enjoyment of affection on the part of sociopaths. Early on, I told my own therapist that I had come to the conclusion that sociopaths exploit those close to them to the point of death, then, cry at the funeral. At the moment the tears are shed, I believe they do represent a grief of sorts. The feelings of loss experienced by sociopaths are however, short lived. Victims also have to beware because, although sociopaths are said to be incapable of feelings for those in their lives, they do become obsessed with them. Psychologists have not yet explained this obsession. If they don’t attach, why are they obsessed? Those who have read my other entries know that I believe that sociopaths do attach. It is what they do with attachments that is disordered.
How did he really feel?
In response to the picture of a sociopath crying at his victim’s funeral, my therapist said, “He feels what he tells himself he feels.” To help you understand what my therapist meant, I will explain what is known about how people usually experience feelings.
There are two components to feelings. The first is a physical sensation. When we experience a feeling we feel something in our bodies in relationship to that feeling. Think about loving someone close to you and sense how your body feels. Is it warmth in your heart? That is usually what people report.
There is much evidence that these physical sensations are disordered in sociopaths. Sociopaths do not generally experience the physical and hormonal changes that go along with feeling emotion. If they do experience them, it is to a lesser degree. Physical responses are blunted.
The second component of feelings is called attribution. Attribution is a cognitive process. When I feel that warmth in my heart as I see my children, I attribute the sensation to my love for them. Thus the physical sensation alone does not make emotion. Emotion is physical sensations and our interpretations of these sensations. There is also evidence that the parts of the brain responsible for attribution do not function properly in sociopaths.
There is one emotion that many sociopaths experience in a not so disordered way. This emotion is anger. Sociopaths do have blunted physical responses to anger. Despite this blunted responsiveness, they seem aware of angry feelings and make correct attributions about what makes them angry. Again, science has not even addressed, much less explained this observation.
Since the physical sensations and attributions that allow for the experience of emotion are disordered in sociopaths, their inner world is very different. They are left to make sense of themselves and others without the tools most of us use. Other parts of the brain fill in the missing processes. The person who is credited with first describing sociopathy in depth is Hervey Cleckley. He proposed that sociopaths are at least of average if not above average verbal intelligence. This makes sense because they have to use their verbal intelligence to make up for their lack of emotions. They do indeed feel what they tell themselves they feel. Scientists say they mimic other people’s emotions, yet again there is no real proof of this.
What did he want from me?
This question is easy to answer intellectually, but very hard for victims to accept emotionally. There are three pleasures we get from our love relationships. The first is pleasure in affection. The second is sexual pleasure. The third is pleasure associated with dominance and control. Sociopaths experience sex and dominance as enormously more pleasurable than affection. Therefore, they are in relationships to get sex and power, pure and simple.
If you love deeply and feel affection for others, you cannot fathom the inner world of an emotionally disordered person whose primary pleasures are sex and power. To understand another’s world you have to imagine yourself experiencing what the other experiences. You can’t do this with a sociopath.
Louise Gallagher said in her post The six steps of healing from a psychopath that the first step is acceptance. We have to accept that we can only know in part how sociopaths really feel and what they want from us. We can understand intellectually, but never emotionally.
Dear Truelove,
The way he treated you is so typical of a psychopath, they are unable to fake love or a relationship for very long, and they “love bomb” the victim at first, being “Prince charming” but they for some reason they decide you are not the princesss they want and start to DEVALUE you…and of course since you have no value it is perfectly okay to treat you like dirt. If you accept the treatment, it only gets worse, with some periods of “peace” at times, but you can never be secure as one of these rages may come out of no where at any time. The rages can get worse—they can beat or even kill you.
They cann’t go without a “supply” so they many times have extra women on the side so if something breaks down with one they have another one to go directly too.
I know you wanted that baby when you were happy with him, but you can see how he treats his other children not paying Support and figfhting their mothers. They are not good parents. At leasst this way you can heal and never have anything to do with him again (that makes it much easier)
It takes a while for us to get through our heads just what they are capable of, and that they never loved us —they are incapable of love or bonding. But by learning about them, and the red flags so we don’t get hooked by another one, we also learn about ourselves and what we really want in a relationship and what we will and will NOT put up with. I think you must have reasonably good boundaries already because you didn’t allow him to get away with this rage outburst. Good for you!
There are about 700+ articles here (look for them under the different subjects) and I suggest to start with you read just the article in the archives, as well as the current ones—educate yourself about psychopaths, about how to heal from them. The knowledge gives us back our power!
IN the end, our healing is about ourselves and making ourselves wiser, stronger and better people. People who will not trust others without getting to know them well in many different situations, and we will not allow others to treat us poorly, lie to us etc.
Thank you for sharing your story, I know it is difficutl to do, expecially at first when you are so raw, so thank you for putting that effort out there. There are lots of great people here and good solid informtion. God bless.
truelove, what a shocking story, how frightening, I hope you’ll keep writing and sharing, we can all learn from each other. Is every guy that “sweeps us off our feet” a spath? I don’t know. I’m sorry that any of this happened to you, but glad you found LF, glad you are safe.
truelove,
I’m so sorry that you have suffered to such a monster.
I’m sorry that you ‘qualify’ to be here but as you know, there are alot of great people here that are willing. I’m not much yet but I hope to be! Peace and love.
truelove,
it is quite usual that their masks slip during the three-four month time frame.. many people on lf have experienced the shocking transition from love of my life to abusive raging spath during this time frame.
@OX-
I will definately go read as many stories as possible.
I have already found this site to be the most informative site of them all,so far.
I believe that I Do have some pretty strong bounderies,but know that I probably need to put even MORE in place. : )
For instance,a guy is gravely underestimating me,if he thinks I will put up with abuse or any kind of BS.I consider myself sort of feminine,and think Im perceived as such,but if a guy misunderstands this as weakness,he is truely in for a surprise.
I am not afraid to fight if necessary or,stand up for myself.
My philosophy tends to lean towards,”Pick your battles?”
So I tend to give people some leeway,or “enough rope”,whatever the case may be.
Im a small framed woman,but I can scrap in pinch,and I imagine that would shock most people to know this about me..
But,Hey,I grew up with an older brother who was sorta mean at times,so I got tough..Haha
However,Id like to be assertive enough to let people know from the getgo,what they can expect from me,if they chose to be disrespectful to me.
This might be a strong stance…
The baby part was definately the most heartbreaking.
That is for sure.
My soul will always be heavy,and feel an overwhelming sense of loss.
But I agree that it may have indeed saved me years of pain,having to stay connected with a man,who could walk away so easily from his own children.
I go through alot of anger,and grief in one week from one day to the next,that it is really difficult to determine if I am even progressing at all.
But as I continue to search for Truth..
To find answers,as well as forgiveness..
I release some of the anger slowly,through prayer and meditation,I DO see some progress.
With 3 steps forward,then 2 steps back,I am still experiencing some healing.
Also,Im not willing to ignore or stuff these feelings so that they come out sideways in some other unhealthy way.
I am commited to recovering from this devastating blow.
No man will ever take my power from me again.
I appreciate all of your feedback.
Where can I read your story?
Thanks
@shabbychic-
I do Not believe that every guy who “sweeps us off our feet” would have to be a spath,but I do think that there are probably certain warning signs to the way in which they may do so..
i.e.-Getting to know him,he was instantly just READY to Be with me,and Knew I was the one.
Maybe one week IS a little too soon to know that,ha ha.. ; )
@it’sjustme-
Thank you.So you are new here too?
How did you come across this site?
@onestep-
I have heard from many that for 3 months,anyone can keep up
a persona,but after that,their “representive” will leave,and the REAL them will come out(as it did in my case..almost three months to the day..)
Weird..
Thanks everyone,for responding.
I am so glad to have found this site.: )
Dear Truelove,
I’ve been on here for over 3 years and my story is spread all over the blog–most of ours are. Basically I’m a retired Advanced Practice Nurse, widow, one son who is a P in prison for a murder 20 yrs ago, my Paternal DNA donor (i.e. father) was a psychopath, and after my husband died, I dated a psychopath.
3 years ago my P son sent one of his former cell mates a diagnosed pedophile and psychopath to infiltrate my family and to “bump us off” starting with me—it didn’t work.
I’ve worked for psychopaths, worked with them, lived near them, dated them, been related to them besides my P-sperm donor and P-son, picked them for friends, and put up with enablers helping them out in their plots and plans…so have plenty of experience with psychopaths, and I guess I’m a slow learner because I am now at this late stage in my life getting my act together. Flunked the easy courses, so had to take remedial psychopath 101 several times until I finally GOT IT and passed. Learned to put up solid and reasonable boundaries and take care of MYSELF.
Been a long hard journey, but with God’s grace and this blog I have gotten closer to recovery! It starts out learning about them but in the end becomes learning about ourselves and how we live our lives.
As you said to “shabby chic” the “sweeping off your feet” is a FREQUENT and well used thing we call the “love bomb” and it works great!
Some of them can keep up the pretense for years, but there are LITTLE signs along the way we call “red flags” that sometimes would give them away if we knew what we were looking at or for. LEARNING ABOUT RED FLAGS is one way we protect ourselves from another psychopath down the line, and help us realize what we saw but “didn’t see.”
Glad you are here, there’s lots of good information on here and it takes time to digest it all, so don’t rush yourself.
Just one day at a time, one step at a time….be KIND TO YOURSELF. Again, welcome and glad you are here! This is a healing supportive place! God bless.
True:
Eessh!
He’s got the gig down now doesn’t he! Same script different chick.
He sounds classic.
Always the one upper…..
the gas money comment….wow…..
Your GF gave you good advice…..stay in survival mode….to protect yourself until you can safely navigate a plan for exit.
I did the same….under different circumstances….although I refer to it as being held hostage.
You so sound like you got a good idea of what went on. You’ve obviously looked into this and learned so much.
It’s a long journey darlen……keep walking the walk your on.
I’m glad you found the education and support of LF.
true,
you’re one of us now. You went thru it and lived to tell it.
Welcome. Your intelligence and integrity got you thru it and will help you heal. You didn’t terminate the pregnancy, you let God work His plan, that tells me how brave you are. You’re going to be great – better than ever.
Dear Truelove
Sorry you’ve had cause to find LF but am glad you’ve found this resource as it is generally a great place for information, support and healing with folks who really do ‘get’ how badly you’ve been abused/affected.
I am disgusted with your exSpath’s behaviour and although you say you’ve done ‘some things you regret’ too – I think you should know that it’s par for the course for the target of a Spath to feel this way. They push us to do things that are out of our own moral code in order to gain leverage to punish and control us further.
Truelove – anyone will ‘push back’ when they’re abused and try to stop the abuse by any means possible. Whether the abuse is ‘overt or covert’ – as empaths our bodies ‘know’ something isn’t right when our minds struggle to accept it – I fought, kicked, screamed, got depressed and drank far too much alcohol! It’s the hang-over of Spathy from mind-games designed to make you feel that you ‘deserved’ their abuse, lies and toxic behaviour. Also the world in general has a ‘blame whe victim’ mentality – I would be careful who you talk to about the details – however if you do find people who ‘get it’ it might be healing to discuss what’s happened to you and get validation. I think people just shy away from ‘trouble’ – it brings up negative & frightening realites and most people want to stay stuck in denial – try not to take it too personal. I’m glad that it sounds like you do have some people in your life who ‘get it’ – plus the folks here on LF too of course.
Like you I lost a child – under distressing circumstances whilst in a relationchit with my exN/Spath. It’s a complex loss – I mourn the loss of my much wanted baby, I have felt guilt over it, sadness that I will probably never have my own biological children (fertility problems, 38 and no boyfriend), glad that I don’t have any tie now to my exSpath via children and also some happiness at having ‘my life back’ 2+ years after the end of that relationchit.
Surprisingly it’s a fact that pregnancy is a major trigger of more severe abuse for Spaths and domestic abusers – well known that the incidence of violence, rage, acting out and abuse tend to increase greatly – which is very sad. Apparently it sets of really primitive feelings in the abuser/Spath. I work in Child Protection and we take this aspect of ‘the job’ very seriously – it’s been well researched and documented. Vulnerability in the target for any reason (including being pregnant) is a major trigger. In a normal person a cry for ‘help’ or ‘your hurting me’ will elicit a caring response. For a Spath a cry for help is a trigger to increase the abuse. Like blood in the water for sharks.
I was really impressed at you listening to your friend and ‘GETTING OUT’ TOWANDA. This tells me you’ve got what it takes to get through this – and I know it’s a cliche – but stronger at ‘the other side’. However you need to really, really be good to yourself now. I always says it’s like being hit by a dumper truck – take protection for yourself and healing as your top priority and you will heal eventually. Perhaps hooking up with bereavement/loss counselling might help you to get some ‘free’ counselling depending on what part of the world you’re from. Most hospital social work depts should have some information. Or in the UK – your GP. Some domestic abuse services offer support, advice, councelling too depends from area to area.
Absolutely stick to NO CONTACT whatsoever!
Blessings Delta 1
PS
I think of abusers as two ‘types’:
Pitbulls -overt use of physical violence/intimidation
Cobras – poison and ‘insidious ‘ abuse. Can strike physically if feeling exposed.
Though this description may be unfair to the animals concerned !
Delta1