“How did he really feel?” and “What did he want from me?” are two questions that often haunt victims of sociopaths. The reason we are haunted by these questions varies but often stems from the habit of over-focusing on the sociopath instead of ourselves. That being said, victims also have a healthy ”˜need to know’ that can help with recovery and healing.
I struggled with these questions in my own healing. I remain baffled by my observations of enjoyment of affection on the part of sociopaths. Early on, I told my own therapist that I had come to the conclusion that sociopaths exploit those close to them to the point of death, then, cry at the funeral. At the moment the tears are shed, I believe they do represent a grief of sorts. The feelings of loss experienced by sociopaths are however, short lived. Victims also have to beware because, although sociopaths are said to be incapable of feelings for those in their lives, they do become obsessed with them. Psychologists have not yet explained this obsession. If they don’t attach, why are they obsessed? Those who have read my other entries know that I believe that sociopaths do attach. It is what they do with attachments that is disordered.
How did he really feel?
In response to the picture of a sociopath crying at his victim’s funeral, my therapist said, “He feels what he tells himself he feels.” To help you understand what my therapist meant, I will explain what is known about how people usually experience feelings.
There are two components to feelings. The first is a physical sensation. When we experience a feeling we feel something in our bodies in relationship to that feeling. Think about loving someone close to you and sense how your body feels. Is it warmth in your heart? That is usually what people report.
There is much evidence that these physical sensations are disordered in sociopaths. Sociopaths do not generally experience the physical and hormonal changes that go along with feeling emotion. If they do experience them, it is to a lesser degree. Physical responses are blunted.
The second component of feelings is called attribution. Attribution is a cognitive process. When I feel that warmth in my heart as I see my children, I attribute the sensation to my love for them. Thus the physical sensation alone does not make emotion. Emotion is physical sensations and our interpretations of these sensations. There is also evidence that the parts of the brain responsible for attribution do not function properly in sociopaths.
There is one emotion that many sociopaths experience in a not so disordered way. This emotion is anger. Sociopaths do have blunted physical responses to anger. Despite this blunted responsiveness, they seem aware of angry feelings and make correct attributions about what makes them angry. Again, science has not even addressed, much less explained this observation.
Since the physical sensations and attributions that allow for the experience of emotion are disordered in sociopaths, their inner world is very different. They are left to make sense of themselves and others without the tools most of us use. Other parts of the brain fill in the missing processes. The person who is credited with first describing sociopathy in depth is Hervey Cleckley. He proposed that sociopaths are at least of average if not above average verbal intelligence. This makes sense because they have to use their verbal intelligence to make up for their lack of emotions. They do indeed feel what they tell themselves they feel. Scientists say they mimic other people’s emotions, yet again there is no real proof of this.
What did he want from me?
This question is easy to answer intellectually, but very hard for victims to accept emotionally. There are three pleasures we get from our love relationships. The first is pleasure in affection. The second is sexual pleasure. The third is pleasure associated with dominance and control. Sociopaths experience sex and dominance as enormously more pleasurable than affection. Therefore, they are in relationships to get sex and power, pure and simple.
If you love deeply and feel affection for others, you cannot fathom the inner world of an emotionally disordered person whose primary pleasures are sex and power. To understand another’s world you have to imagine yourself experiencing what the other experiences. You can’t do this with a sociopath.
Louise Gallagher said in her post The six steps of healing from a psychopath that the first step is acceptance. We have to accept that we can only know in part how sociopaths really feel and what they want from us. We can understand intellectually, but never emotionally.
Akita,
You’re really blessed that you got out and out PROOF as to what this man is. Each time I read your posts about the things he’s doing (illegally), getting caught, sending that after V day text, it’s SO OBVIOUS what he is!!!
I googled mine. NOTHING came up. NADA. He flies SO under the radar. If there is something amiss insofar as legalities, porn sites, dating sites (other than one) I am not aware of it and there is no way to find out.
YOU GOT VALIDATION as to what this man is and has done!!!! TOTAL validation.
Again, the stuff you are feeling, all of that pain, I can’t recall if it was sky who mentioned it? but anyway….it’s all ABANDONMENT issues and FEAR issues surrounding your biological clock, Chica.
TRUE AND GENUINE LOVE DOES NOT HAPPEN IN THREE WEEKS. Not just for him but FOR YOU TOO. You were love bombed BADLY and that’s what they DO! He’s evil Akita. And you KNOW this. This is why you can maintain your NC. Your heart is in pain, but your MIND knows the truth!!!
Keep working on your abandonment issues, Chica. That’s really where I think your pain is SCREAMING from!
RB
Snoodles.
you are blessed! I’m not very good with men now lol! I lost that ability in this last relationshit. I have good male friends, but no one that would knock himself out the way your new friend is.
I would really enjoy a friendship like that. But that takes a long time, from my perspective to build. I don’t feel much “wanted” in that arena any longer now. I don’t know how to do that really.
With my male friends, we banter back and forth, joke and laugh alot, but that’s about it. Most of them are GAY LOL! It’s safer that way I suppose. I think I gravitate towards gay men as friends, not only because they’re safe, but also because they are more SENSITIVE to me. I realize it’s not that way with every gay guy, but I really love my male gay friends. They are HEALTHY people and one of them especially has been very kind to me throughout all of this. But he’s halfway across the country.
I’m beginning to come to the realization that I may 1. Never have sex again. Ever. 2. I may never meet anyone that I can consider a friend to move forward in a relationship in the future. With some of my girlfriends, their partners/spouses were their best friends and knew one another over a long period of time prior to becoming romantically involved. I’m older now, so I don’t feel that time is on my side either.
I could go on dating sites, have a bazillion men, doing just what my spath does, be love bombed, hook up and there ya go…..but I’m not up for that.
I couldn’t risk being with another spath. My preference is also to be with intelligent men. One of the reasons I was attracted to spath in the first place, although only to find out he wasn’t as intelligent as I thought, either that or he sabotaged it.
This just sucks.
RB
Neveragain,
GREAT LINK!!!!! Thank you. I just loved the photo of the little girl crying! That was precious! I also loved your analogy of the broken leg. I agree that our vulnerabilities open us up to their manipulations…just as the lion picks out the antelope from the herd that is in some way not able to run as fast as the others, the psychopath targets the victim who is more vulnerable than some of the others around her, or sometimes it is just the luck of the draw, being in the wrong place at the wrong time.
Fixing our own vulnerabilities I think is what helps us to fend off the next passing predator though! I think I’m a lot safer than I was, but the one thing you can’t do is protect yourself 100% against just being in the wrong spot at the wrong time, but you can protect yourself from getting conned by most of them.
Ox,
I think my vulnerabilities and knowing I have so many now, prevent me from wanting a relationshit right now. I have a lot of healing work to do and if God brings a man into my life. Great. If not. Oh well. I don’t think substitution is wise at this point in time.
RB
Dear Meg,
Sugar, this is no longer about HIM….you need to focus on yourself and healing yourself, your own vulnerability to this man’s love bombing.
It starts out about them being liars and scammers and con-people, but the bottom line is about US. WHY are you feeling so USED AND ABUSED over a man you dated for two weeks?
The answer is that HE MIRRORED A FANTASY TO YOU THAT YOU WANTED TO BELIEVE—and you grabbed at it like someone who was starving grabbed at a bucket of donuts. It was a mirage not real, there were no donuts there. SO what do you need to do to fill that HUNGER inside yourself?
I know exactly why I fell for the P-X-BF after my husband died. I know EXACTLY why I grasp at his offered “love” like I was a starving person going after the bucket of donuts—because I felt so alone, lonely, fat, old, ugly, and that no one would ever love me again like my husband had. Now, I am no longer in my 50s I’m in my mid-60s, and I’m fatter than I was then,, and I have more wrinkles, but—BUT—-I am happy with myself and no longer vulnerable to the FIRST guy who has a full set of teeth who comes along and tells me he thinks I am wonderful and sexy and so on. I no longer feel worthless, unloved and unlovable. The fact is, I may NEVER have another wonderful relationship with a man, but THAT IS OKAY, I am still OK even if I never have another love relationship again. It would be nice, but I AM OKAY AND CONTENT ALL BY MYSELF.
And the bottom line is, Meg, we are all by ourselves—even if someone loves us as much as my husband loved me, he died. He left me–not because he wanted to, but one of us had to die first and it was him. No one can guarantee that they will never leave us alone. No one else can guarantee that they will always be there for us. That’s just the fact of life. Unless it is an accidental death where a couple dies together in an accident, most couples—one dies and leaves the other, no matter how much they love each other. One is left alone. It doesn’t get any easier the longer you are together either.
So I think we must learn to be happy and content with OUR OWN SELVES, and if by luck or fortune we find another happy individual to SHARE that with, we are indeed fortunate. But if we don’t find someone to share that happiness with, WE ARE STILL FORTUNATE TO BE HAPPY AND SECURE IN OUR OWN HAPPINESS THAT IS PROVIDED BY OURSELVES. That is true happiness that cannot be taken away by circumstances. It is INTERNAL. It doesn’t depend on anything external to ourselves.
Roses, too many times I have seen “wounded” people get out of one bad relationshit and jump head first into one with a new psychopath, thinking that a new relationshit will cure the pain from the last one…..not realizing that they are jumping from the frying pan into the fire.
After my husband died, I did the same thing, jumping 8 months later into the fire of the relationshit with the P-now X BF, thinking it would save me from my unhappiness and loneliness….it just made things worse for me, of course.
I’m finally in a spot emotionally now that I might consider dating someone, but the pickings are slim with the criteria I would have for even being interested in someone, so not expecting to find anyone any time soon. LOL Fine just by myself though.
Ox,
that is PRECISELY what happened in getting into my relationshit with exPOS. EXACTLY, lonely, vulnerable, TERRIFIED, I needed a knight in shining armor. I literally jumped from the frying pan into the fire.
I think I’ll pass. I do enjoy having men friends. Those friendships are honest. I like that. they’re stable, consistent and caring. They also are being SO GREAT at helping me to evolve into a better woman and person! They keep telling me that I’m great and that what i”m doing in not jumping into another relatinoshit is STRENGTH! I guess it is. Part of the reason I also adore these men is because they are SO BRIGHT. They’re assisting me in engaging in intellectual debate and respect my opinions and I respect theirs. I’m pretty stubborn for sure, but I WILL give what they say thought. We can agree to disagree and that NEVER happened with spath. EVER. It was his way of thinking or the highway and I was NEVER allowed to THINK.
Thinking was a no no. He acted irritated if I wanted to talk about subjects that would induce MY PERSONAL GROWTH and desire to grow more intellectually. He HATED it.
I just can’t do that again. I’d rather be alone. Even when I think about exPOS hitting me up again, would I really REALLY do it?
When I think about what I”m now gaining over what I lost, the answer is a resounding NO WAY. It was SO STIFLING!!!
I admire your relationship with Blogger T, Ox. An extremely intelligent person and I don’t agree with all of his views, and the exchanges I’ve seen here on the blog open my mind to other things that I’ve been rock solid on. I can’t imagine your debates. Or what you’ve learned. I LOVE that!!!
RB
Roses ~ When I met my friend, I wasn’t looking for a boyfriend, just someone to talk to. He was open, honest and listened to all my woes. I told him that I wanted to be friends and that’s just what we were. He was the first person I thought of to talk to when Spath dumped me in September 2010. . .again. He has such a compassion and non-judgemental way of understanding. Actually it was my friend that told me he sounded like a psychopath. I had never even heard of such a thing unless they were mass murders. That is what got the ball rolling for me to investigate. Then I found Love Fraud…what a blessing! My friend has been there to hear me rant in frustration/disbelief and cry in my brokeness. A true friend. He then moved back to Maine in July and we kept in touch every night on Skype. One day he asked me if I wanted to come to Maine to visit. (This is during the last push away phrase from SPath who was back with the ex-wife again). He flew me out there and i met his family and we drove through the mountains in New Hampshire. It was a breath of fresh air when i had been drowning for so long with the Spath. Anyway, i came back and he said that he would only come back to Michigan for one reason, to begin a relationship with me. I told him that i was broken and damaged and he said so am I. Together we can heal. We have been together since the end of September and it has been wonderful. I am laughing again…smiling for no reason….having great conversations with an adult (unlike the childish conversations with the spath that drove me CRAZY). I still have days that I get angry for what has happened and I despise the spath, but it is short lived because I know for a fact that I am better off then he will ever be with whomever he chooses to be with and that is enough satisfaction for me.
Healing for me is day by day. But I see that light at the end of the tunnel and i am stronger than i have been in 7 years. Thanks to prayers, a supportive family, therapy, Love Fraud and the new blessing in my life.
In addition, I will NEVER be the same person I was before getting involved with a Spath. I think that was part of the healing for me was to accept that i am a changed person by this emotional and psychological event that took place in my life.
BUT I wont let it define who I am or my zest for a productive and loving life.
Dear Schnoodle, I AM SO GLAD I WILL NEVER BE THE SAME PERSON who had DOOR MAT printed on her back and PATSY printed on her forehead. I am glad that I am no longer a VICTIM—-I am a VICTOR and will remain one! I am a better and stronger person than I have ever been before and I intend to get better yet! Every day!