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“How did he really feel?” and “What did he want from me?”

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January 26, 2007 //  by Liane Leedom, M.D.

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“How did he really feel?” and “What did he want from me?” are two questions that often haunt victims of sociopaths. The reason we are haunted by these questions varies but often stems from the habit of over-focusing on the sociopath instead of ourselves. That being said, victims also have a healthy ”˜need to know’ that can help with recovery and healing.

I struggled with these questions in my own healing. I remain baffled by my observations of enjoyment of affection on the part of sociopaths. Early on, I told my own therapist that I had come to the conclusion that sociopaths exploit those close to them to the point of death, then, cry at the funeral. At the moment the tears are shed, I believe they do represent a grief of sorts. The feelings of loss experienced by sociopaths are however, short lived. Victims also have to beware because, although sociopaths are said to be incapable of feelings for those in their lives, they do become obsessed with them. Psychologists have not yet explained this obsession. If they don’t attach, why are they obsessed? Those who have read my other entries know that I believe that sociopaths do attach. It is what they do with attachments that is disordered.

How did he really feel?

In response to the picture of a sociopath crying at his victim’s funeral, my therapist said, “He feels what he tells himself he feels.” To help you understand what my therapist meant, I will explain what is known about how people usually experience feelings.

There are two components to feelings. The first is a physical sensation. When we experience a feeling we feel something in our bodies in relationship to that feeling. Think about loving someone close to you and sense how your body feels. Is it warmth in your heart? That is usually what people report.

There is much evidence that these physical sensations are disordered in sociopaths. Sociopaths do not generally experience the physical and hormonal changes that go along with feeling emotion. If they do experience them, it is to a lesser degree. Physical responses are blunted.

The second component of feelings is called attribution. Attribution is a cognitive process. When I feel that warmth in my heart as I see my children, I attribute the sensation to my love for them. Thus the physical sensation alone does not make emotion. Emotion is physical sensations and our interpretations of these sensations. There is also evidence that the parts of the brain responsible for attribution do not function properly in sociopaths.

There is one emotion that many sociopaths experience in a not so disordered way. This emotion is anger. Sociopaths do have blunted physical responses to anger. Despite this blunted responsiveness, they seem aware of angry feelings and make correct attributions about what makes them angry. Again, science has not even addressed, much less explained this observation.

Since the physical sensations and attributions that allow for the experience of emotion are disordered in sociopaths, their inner world is very different. They are left to make sense of themselves and others without the tools most of us use. Other parts of the brain fill in the missing processes. The person who is credited with first describing sociopathy in depth is Hervey Cleckley. He proposed that sociopaths are at least of average if not above average verbal intelligence. This makes sense because they have to use their verbal intelligence to make up for their lack of emotions. They do indeed feel what they tell themselves they feel. Scientists say they mimic other people’s emotions, yet again there is no real proof of this.

What did he want from me?

This question is easy to answer intellectually, but very hard for victims to accept emotionally. There are three pleasures we get from our love relationships. The first is pleasure in affection. The second is sexual pleasure. The third is pleasure associated with dominance and control. Sociopaths experience sex and dominance as enormously more pleasurable than affection. Therefore, they are in relationships to get sex and power, pure and simple.

If you love deeply and feel affection for others, you cannot fathom the inner world of an emotionally disordered person whose primary pleasures are sex and power. To understand another’s world you have to imagine yourself experiencing what the other experiences. You can’t do this with a sociopath.

Louise Gallagher said in her post The six steps of healing from a psychopath that the first step is acceptance. We have to accept that we can only know in part how sociopaths really feel and what they want from us. We can understand intellectually, but never emotionally.

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one/joy_step_at_a_time
14 years ago

excuse me! ahem, i was involved with the hijack, on both topics!

Stargazer
14 years ago

EVERYBODY!!!! May I have your attention! One joy/step gets equal credit for the most recent hijacks! Yay! It wasn’t all me. In fact, you DID mention snakes before I did…….I just took the topic and turned it into a novel **really wants to be a writer**

Stargazer
14 years ago

LOLOLOL!!! Sorry, one joy, I’m a bit of a smart ass.

Ox Drover
14 years ago

Is that Star-ass or Gazer-ass! ???? LOLROTFLMAO

lesson learned
14 years ago

Okay so WHAT precisely was hijacked here?

Snakes=spaths???

See the correlation??????

Actually Star, snakes are probably a lot friendlier and more affectionate and genuine than spaths LOL!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

I love it here!!

lesson learned
14 years ago

Ox

ROFLOL!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! oh Sheesh!!!!

RB

Stargazer
14 years ago

Oxy!!! LMAO!!!! Good memory you have! I recall that conversation a few years ago about your asses. ha ha ha

Roses, I couldn’t agree more about snakes being kinder and gentler than sociopaths! I highly recommend keeping snakes as pets if you get tired of dating them.

Stargazer
14 years ago

This is SO much fun! But I have to go to the gym :(. I am trying to get into a bikini by May 1 when I go back to Costa Rica. Wish me luck!

Bye for now!

Stargazer
14 years ago

I’m not sure where to post this, but I’m not feeling so great after coming back from the gym today. It’s really sucking to be 50 at the moment. I’ve been doing tons of exercise for the last 3 weeks, sometimes several hours a day. And if I ate any less, I’d be a breatharian. And still, I hardly see any results. If I were in my 30’s doing all this stuff, I’d look like Gisele Bundchken (sp).

So I went to the gym today. I go almost every day; it’s right down the street. I ran into my friend Mike who is 46 and one of his guy friends who is probably about 40. They are both attractive guys. I think Mike kind of likes me, but I’ve known him for years and we’re just friends.

So the three of us end up in the steam room. We’re goofing around chit-chatting. Then this pretty, fit younger woman walks in. Naturally, all the guys start talking to her, and suddenly, I don’t even exist any more. I feel like I cannot flirt and don’t even stand a chance with men any more because there are SO many cute younger women out there. Meantime, my sexy neigbhor has not called me in 2 months. He also goes to that gym, and he likes to go in the sauna. I imagine him chatting up the girls in the sauna, too. He is 44. I feel like since I’m 50 – even though I’m a good-looking 50, I just cannot flirt with men any more, especially if they are younger. Because they all want the younger girls. There is nothing I can do about it. That girl was in her late 30’s and had a two-piece outfit on. She looked like a supermodel. I used to look like that, too, but I’m not quite fit for a bikini.

Turning 50 has totally zapped my confidence with men. There was a time when I would walk into a room and turn heads. I’d have no problem flirting with all the men in the room. Now I just feel like their mom. It really hurts a lot right now. And there’s nothing I can do about it. I am not attracted to older men.

Thanks for letting me vent. I’m crying like a fool right now.

hens
14 years ago

Star sweet heart your just havin a bad day, go stick your head in the oven and turn on the gas………..

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