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“How did he really feel?” and “What did he want from me?”

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January 26, 2007 //  by Liane Leedom, M.D.

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“How did he really feel?” and “What did he want from me?” are two questions that often haunt victims of sociopaths. The reason we are haunted by these questions varies but often stems from the habit of over-focusing on the sociopath instead of ourselves. That being said, victims also have a healthy ”˜need to know’ that can help with recovery and healing.

I struggled with these questions in my own healing. I remain baffled by my observations of enjoyment of affection on the part of sociopaths. Early on, I told my own therapist that I had come to the conclusion that sociopaths exploit those close to them to the point of death, then, cry at the funeral. At the moment the tears are shed, I believe they do represent a grief of sorts. The feelings of loss experienced by sociopaths are however, short lived. Victims also have to beware because, although sociopaths are said to be incapable of feelings for those in their lives, they do become obsessed with them. Psychologists have not yet explained this obsession. If they don’t attach, why are they obsessed? Those who have read my other entries know that I believe that sociopaths do attach. It is what they do with attachments that is disordered.

How did he really feel?

In response to the picture of a sociopath crying at his victim’s funeral, my therapist said, “He feels what he tells himself he feels.” To help you understand what my therapist meant, I will explain what is known about how people usually experience feelings.

There are two components to feelings. The first is a physical sensation. When we experience a feeling we feel something in our bodies in relationship to that feeling. Think about loving someone close to you and sense how your body feels. Is it warmth in your heart? That is usually what people report.

There is much evidence that these physical sensations are disordered in sociopaths. Sociopaths do not generally experience the physical and hormonal changes that go along with feeling emotion. If they do experience them, it is to a lesser degree. Physical responses are blunted.

The second component of feelings is called attribution. Attribution is a cognitive process. When I feel that warmth in my heart as I see my children, I attribute the sensation to my love for them. Thus the physical sensation alone does not make emotion. Emotion is physical sensations and our interpretations of these sensations. There is also evidence that the parts of the brain responsible for attribution do not function properly in sociopaths.

There is one emotion that many sociopaths experience in a not so disordered way. This emotion is anger. Sociopaths do have blunted physical responses to anger. Despite this blunted responsiveness, they seem aware of angry feelings and make correct attributions about what makes them angry. Again, science has not even addressed, much less explained this observation.

Since the physical sensations and attributions that allow for the experience of emotion are disordered in sociopaths, their inner world is very different. They are left to make sense of themselves and others without the tools most of us use. Other parts of the brain fill in the missing processes. The person who is credited with first describing sociopathy in depth is Hervey Cleckley. He proposed that sociopaths are at least of average if not above average verbal intelligence. This makes sense because they have to use their verbal intelligence to make up for their lack of emotions. They do indeed feel what they tell themselves they feel. Scientists say they mimic other people’s emotions, yet again there is no real proof of this.

What did he want from me?

This question is easy to answer intellectually, but very hard for victims to accept emotionally. There are three pleasures we get from our love relationships. The first is pleasure in affection. The second is sexual pleasure. The third is pleasure associated with dominance and control. Sociopaths experience sex and dominance as enormously more pleasurable than affection. Therefore, they are in relationships to get sex and power, pure and simple.

If you love deeply and feel affection for others, you cannot fathom the inner world of an emotionally disordered person whose primary pleasures are sex and power. To understand another’s world you have to imagine yourself experiencing what the other experiences. You can’t do this with a sociopath.

Louise Gallagher said in her post The six steps of healing from a psychopath that the first step is acceptance. We have to accept that we can only know in part how sociopaths really feel and what they want from us. We can understand intellectually, but never emotionally.

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one/joy_step_at_a_time
14 years ago

star – my grandmother still flirts with everyone. she is 94.

one/joy_step_at_a_time
14 years ago

omg hens! snort!

Stargazer
14 years ago

Wow hens, that really lifted my spirits….NOT! Don’t make me boink you cause I’ve been working out. My biceps are strong, and I can bring down that skillet pretty hard………

I’m still crying. It really hurts the way aging women are discarded in our culture.

Stargazer
14 years ago

One step, it’s one thing for an older woman to flirt with a younger guy. It’s another thing to feel the sting of humiliation when he doesn’t flirt back. Maybe when I’m 94 I won’t care any more.

ElizabethBennett
14 years ago

Hi ya’ll what’s going on tonight? I just finished day two of my suspension without pay and tomorrow is day three and I’m bored.

Stargazer-your gym story is making me sad. You sound like you should be really confident about the say you look. You probably look way better than I do right now. I am 38 years old and I have a gorgeous face but I’m the fat girl-a whopping 244 lbs-the last 35 of put on this past year thanks to my job stress. I have recently lost 6 lbs and it was a huge struggle because I have an injury and haven’t been able to workout. I’m jealous of you. I’ve never known how to flirt. I am socially challenged with me. I wish you could give me a lesson.

Hens-you seem kinda fiesty tonite-good times

one/joy_step_at_a_time
14 years ago

Star – i am 50, i know what you are talking about. since the spath episode i have aged tremendously. even when i feel as good as possible about myself, i will still have to deal with ageism.

my point about my gram is that she has flirted with everyone forever – and she still has men 25 years her junior chasing her. might not be as big a deal at 94 as 50, but still…

Stargazer
14 years ago

Nolarn, I envy you too because of your age. Weight is something you can work with. There’s not much you can do about age. 🙁

I know several women who met the loves of their lives in their 30’s. Both weighed around 350 lbs or more. There are men who don’t care about that. But for some reason, in this culture men don’t like to date older women. Even if the women look better than they do. There’s something about the number that sends them running. Or perhaps it’s the loss of confidence of the woman. I don’t know. I feel really sad about it right now. It wouldn’t be so bad if I could acquire a taste for older men. But I just can’t seem to. I’m not ready to give up and become a nun yet.

ElizabethBennett
14 years ago

Star-trust me, there is NOTHING about me to envy. NOBODY wants me and no one ever will who isn’t a psychopath so I quit. There ARE guys out there who like older women, you just haven’t met any of them yet. Especially if they’re hot and sexy and you seem like you are.

ElizabethBennett
14 years ago

I am in a female dominated profession and I despise it. I am drawn to male dominated ones like police, fire, and military and plan on making a change next year. Guys like to be my buddies and get along and relate to them well. They DO NOT WANT TO DATE ME!!!!!

Stargazer
14 years ago

Nolarn, sounds like we are both pretty down on ourselves right now. Why do you feel that no one will ever want you? That’s a pretty strong statement coming from someone so young.

And let me tell you, being a “hot and sexy” 50 year old as you say isn’t all that it’s cracked up to be. I get a lot of younger guys that want me for an affair. Then they discard me. Been there, done that. It hurts.

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