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“How did he really feel?” and “What did he want from me?”

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January 26, 2007 //  by Liane Leedom, M.D.

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“How did he really feel?” and “What did he want from me?” are two questions that often haunt victims of sociopaths. The reason we are haunted by these questions varies but often stems from the habit of over-focusing on the sociopath instead of ourselves. That being said, victims also have a healthy ”˜need to know’ that can help with recovery and healing.

I struggled with these questions in my own healing. I remain baffled by my observations of enjoyment of affection on the part of sociopaths. Early on, I told my own therapist that I had come to the conclusion that sociopaths exploit those close to them to the point of death, then, cry at the funeral. At the moment the tears are shed, I believe they do represent a grief of sorts. The feelings of loss experienced by sociopaths are however, short lived. Victims also have to beware because, although sociopaths are said to be incapable of feelings for those in their lives, they do become obsessed with them. Psychologists have not yet explained this obsession. If they don’t attach, why are they obsessed? Those who have read my other entries know that I believe that sociopaths do attach. It is what they do with attachments that is disordered.

How did he really feel?

In response to the picture of a sociopath crying at his victim’s funeral, my therapist said, “He feels what he tells himself he feels.” To help you understand what my therapist meant, I will explain what is known about how people usually experience feelings.

There are two components to feelings. The first is a physical sensation. When we experience a feeling we feel something in our bodies in relationship to that feeling. Think about loving someone close to you and sense how your body feels. Is it warmth in your heart? That is usually what people report.

There is much evidence that these physical sensations are disordered in sociopaths. Sociopaths do not generally experience the physical and hormonal changes that go along with feeling emotion. If they do experience them, it is to a lesser degree. Physical responses are blunted.

The second component of feelings is called attribution. Attribution is a cognitive process. When I feel that warmth in my heart as I see my children, I attribute the sensation to my love for them. Thus the physical sensation alone does not make emotion. Emotion is physical sensations and our interpretations of these sensations. There is also evidence that the parts of the brain responsible for attribution do not function properly in sociopaths.

There is one emotion that many sociopaths experience in a not so disordered way. This emotion is anger. Sociopaths do have blunted physical responses to anger. Despite this blunted responsiveness, they seem aware of angry feelings and make correct attributions about what makes them angry. Again, science has not even addressed, much less explained this observation.

Since the physical sensations and attributions that allow for the experience of emotion are disordered in sociopaths, their inner world is very different. They are left to make sense of themselves and others without the tools most of us use. Other parts of the brain fill in the missing processes. The person who is credited with first describing sociopathy in depth is Hervey Cleckley. He proposed that sociopaths are at least of average if not above average verbal intelligence. This makes sense because they have to use their verbal intelligence to make up for their lack of emotions. They do indeed feel what they tell themselves they feel. Scientists say they mimic other people’s emotions, yet again there is no real proof of this.

What did he want from me?

This question is easy to answer intellectually, but very hard for victims to accept emotionally. There are three pleasures we get from our love relationships. The first is pleasure in affection. The second is sexual pleasure. The third is pleasure associated with dominance and control. Sociopaths experience sex and dominance as enormously more pleasurable than affection. Therefore, they are in relationships to get sex and power, pure and simple.

If you love deeply and feel affection for others, you cannot fathom the inner world of an emotionally disordered person whose primary pleasures are sex and power. To understand another’s world you have to imagine yourself experiencing what the other experiences. You can’t do this with a sociopath.

Louise Gallagher said in her post The six steps of healing from a psychopath that the first step is acceptance. We have to accept that we can only know in part how sociopaths really feel and what they want from us. We can understand intellectually, but never emotionally.

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Stargazer
14 years ago

Well, you have all been great, really wonderful. Thanks for letting me talk it all out. I am coming to the realization more and more that I will probably move to Costa Rica. The sensual, open atmosphere where a woman like me is in demand by gringos and ticos alike is really more suitable to my personality. I don’t know if I really want to live out my life in a culture so bereft of male attention as this one – where I am told I should go out to classes and events to meet men, and all I meet are more women. I love my women friends. But I would really like a shot at love before I die. I was feeling so great about myself and about life when I came back from CR. Now the culture shock is hitting me.

hens
14 years ago

Star Star Star – I like you and I have never seen you. I feel a connection with you because of your mind. I think it is SAD that you see yourself through young men’s eye’s. And it is very sad that your selfworth is focused on your sexual appeal to men..sad…

super chic
14 years ago

😀

lesson learned
14 years ago

Star………….

aha moment………..read what you just wrote and think about it….

Where is your emphasis beautiful lady?

Not on you, where it should be…..we all want to be desired I think……it’s nature….

BUT…I strive to be like Ox. I SO look up to her…and I understand the goal…

Being totally content with yourself, no matter what is or isn’t going on around you…..

I’m so glad you’re going on your trip! I cant’ WAIT to hear all about it……….because that interest IS apart of you….embrace THAT and what you have in those gifts rather than what you DON”T……..

star, whether love comes or not, whether someone is attracted or not…..it doesn’t really matter in the end……..

You already know this, but………there is no better companion than yourself, Chica…..I’ve never felt so alone in a relationshit than wanting a man to provide it that i’m involved with or hoping that it happens……….it seems the same to me….so if I can just trust in myself……..what I know to be good of me, who gives a rats ass WHAT a man thinks or doesn’t of me?

You have tremendous life experiences, heart, and love of snakes **cringe** that a lot of us don’t…so instead of embracing a man or thinking about that, embrace you….be PEACEFUL with you and what you know to be true…….

Star, a man doesn’t define you. You say you know this, but I don’t think you’d be this concerned if you really believed it…..

Hang onto YOU, Chica. Go give yourself a big bear hug. Hug your snake, whatever it takes…..because that’s YOU….and YOU are more important than MEN who are idiots falling all over themselves for…………um, what?

That’s right, Chica. You go guurrrrrrrrl!

super chic
14 years ago

I’ve got to get myself over to Costa Rica!

Stargazer
14 years ago

Well then, switch teams and we’ll call it a day (hens). ha ha

It’s this fucking culture. I hate it.

Stargazer
14 years ago

I’m sorry, Flower. I respectfully disagree. I have been alone and independent and not in need of a man for many years. Now that I want one, it’s so fucking hard to find one. I feel I am meant to be with someone and will be happier in my life with a partner. I look up to Oxy and admire her, too. But I don’t see myself being alone in 5 years. Or 10 years. I think sometimes if you want something, you have to take the situation into your own hands and do something about it. This is what I will do.

lesson learned
14 years ago

((((((((((( star )))))))))))

I hope you find what you’re looking for. 🙂

akitameg
14 years ago

Can’t believe ya’ll are still awake.

I have woken up b/c my acid reflux is killing me. Tomorrow morning I am having some test done on it so I cant drink anything or even take Tums. it burns so badly and I do not know how I am going to sleep. Too much information, huh?

lesson learned
14 years ago

Akita,

Naw, not for a west coaster LOL!

HOpe you feel better, Chica!

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