“How did he really feel?” and “What did he want from me?” are two questions that often haunt victims of sociopaths. The reason we are haunted by these questions varies but often stems from the habit of over-focusing on the sociopath instead of ourselves. That being said, victims also have a healthy ”˜need to know’ that can help with recovery and healing.
I struggled with these questions in my own healing. I remain baffled by my observations of enjoyment of affection on the part of sociopaths. Early on, I told my own therapist that I had come to the conclusion that sociopaths exploit those close to them to the point of death, then, cry at the funeral. At the moment the tears are shed, I believe they do represent a grief of sorts. The feelings of loss experienced by sociopaths are however, short lived. Victims also have to beware because, although sociopaths are said to be incapable of feelings for those in their lives, they do become obsessed with them. Psychologists have not yet explained this obsession. If they don’t attach, why are they obsessed? Those who have read my other entries know that I believe that sociopaths do attach. It is what they do with attachments that is disordered.
How did he really feel?
In response to the picture of a sociopath crying at his victim’s funeral, my therapist said, “He feels what he tells himself he feels.” To help you understand what my therapist meant, I will explain what is known about how people usually experience feelings.
There are two components to feelings. The first is a physical sensation. When we experience a feeling we feel something in our bodies in relationship to that feeling. Think about loving someone close to you and sense how your body feels. Is it warmth in your heart? That is usually what people report.
There is much evidence that these physical sensations are disordered in sociopaths. Sociopaths do not generally experience the physical and hormonal changes that go along with feeling emotion. If they do experience them, it is to a lesser degree. Physical responses are blunted.
The second component of feelings is called attribution. Attribution is a cognitive process. When I feel that warmth in my heart as I see my children, I attribute the sensation to my love for them. Thus the physical sensation alone does not make emotion. Emotion is physical sensations and our interpretations of these sensations. There is also evidence that the parts of the brain responsible for attribution do not function properly in sociopaths.
There is one emotion that many sociopaths experience in a not so disordered way. This emotion is anger. Sociopaths do have blunted physical responses to anger. Despite this blunted responsiveness, they seem aware of angry feelings and make correct attributions about what makes them angry. Again, science has not even addressed, much less explained this observation.
Since the physical sensations and attributions that allow for the experience of emotion are disordered in sociopaths, their inner world is very different. They are left to make sense of themselves and others without the tools most of us use. Other parts of the brain fill in the missing processes. The person who is credited with first describing sociopathy in depth is Hervey Cleckley. He proposed that sociopaths are at least of average if not above average verbal intelligence. This makes sense because they have to use their verbal intelligence to make up for their lack of emotions. They do indeed feel what they tell themselves they feel. Scientists say they mimic other people’s emotions, yet again there is no real proof of this.
What did he want from me?
This question is easy to answer intellectually, but very hard for victims to accept emotionally. There are three pleasures we get from our love relationships. The first is pleasure in affection. The second is sexual pleasure. The third is pleasure associated with dominance and control. Sociopaths experience sex and dominance as enormously more pleasurable than affection. Therefore, they are in relationships to get sex and power, pure and simple.
If you love deeply and feel affection for others, you cannot fathom the inner world of an emotionally disordered person whose primary pleasures are sex and power. To understand another’s world you have to imagine yourself experiencing what the other experiences. You can’t do this with a sociopath.
Louise Gallagher said in her post The six steps of healing from a psychopath that the first step is acceptance. We have to accept that we can only know in part how sociopaths really feel and what they want from us. We can understand intellectually, but never emotionally.
Ox:
Thanks…you are right!
I am going to see a dv counselor tomorrow instead. This is NOT just a ‘tif’…not by a long shot.
I would imagine he wont see the therapist himself. I wonder though…why IS my comcast still on…its been two weeks and the bill in in HIS name. Youd think he would have shut it off by now, right???
Coeur_de_pirate –
My favourite part of Donna’s book (Lovefraud) is the part where Montgomery is on a pension (living from week to week), in a tiny flat, bankrupt, toothless, with a bad back, no longer able to “get it up”, without a car, estranged from his family, getting his food from “Meals on Wheels” – and being picked up twice a week to go and do “crafts” at a senior citizen’s centre.
In the book, Donna talks about laughing as she discovers all of this about him; well I damn near wet MY knickers!!!! WHAT A DELICIOUS ENDING for such a revolting leach!
You have your dignity intact – the parts of you that are damaged will grow back. You will be fine. He will rot away like Montgomery. No doubt about it. Be patient. xx
robxsykobabe –
“I wonder though”why IS my comcast still on”its been two weeks and the bill in in HIS name. Youd think he would have shut it off by now, right??? ”
And MISS the opportunity to irritate you and prolong contact with you? Sheesh girl you need to start thinking like a spath.
NEVER be surprised by ANYTHING they do. EVERYTHING that they think and say and do is a part of their Masterplan to rule your world. Even when things look sound and normal, they are running a scam in the background. Close your eyes and learn to sniff them out….
Dear R-babe,
He has NO INTENTION OF PAYING THE BILL ANYWAY, so why bother to turn it off, he has other things to think about and scheme about. Or, he may just figure that you WONDERING about why he hasn’t turned it off is A sort of “back handed” contact with you. It IS making you think about him, right? LOL So just enjoy it while it is on, and leave the bill for his credit score, because he has no intention of paying it anyway.
Good for you going to a DV counselor. Use every opportunity to learn what you can about them, and learn how to heal yourself. You deserve better than DV and remember 75% of DV abusers actually qualify as Ps clinically, so he is a baddddd actor no matter what! You do not need him in your life, and like Aussie girl says to Coeur de pirate…the damaged parts of you will grow back and be stronger than ever, and he is going to eventually “party on down” until he has NOTHING and NO ONE, which is what he richly deserves.
ROFLMAO. He called to confirm a couples therapy apointment! Classic spath. That sounds so much like something x spath would do. Walk out despising me, telling me he never wanted to lay eyes on me again…..keep me in the agony of a broken heart for two weeks, but then appear out of nowhere as if nothing had happened, only to repeat the whole process when I started to panic about paying the bills, and why wouldn’t he find a job and help. He’d wait til I recieved eviction notices, then he’d leave for greener pastures.
He’s continue to torment though, because that keeps the addiction active, so I’d be easy pickin’s when I was back on my feet and could continue to provide a roof over his no-load ass, provide a hot shower, a hot meal, a cigarette and a beer…a peice of tail….he even took potted plants (no subversive intent here…this is true) out of my yard to give to other women on Mother’s day. Sheeeeesh. Granted, she wasn’t a prospective sexual conquest, but the mother of a deceased friend, but she often gave him odd-jobs or lent him money, or gave him a beer…ie, it was still a con. He didn’t even say “Happy Mother’s Day” to me.
Kim, that is so S/Pathy to steal plants out of your yard to give to another woman! LOL ROTFLMAO SNORT SNARK CHOKE!!! that is sooooooo funny!
You know it is so odd to me how HARD THEY WILL WORK to keep from having a job and working. That doesn’t make sense to me in this kind of s-path. It is like they will WORK HARD for 50 cents an hour when they could more easily make a $1 with less work. Just doesn’t compute to me.
Of course some of them WILL work, get an education and a career to get money but then go after other kinds of emotional and financial crimes. Whatever it is that motivates them it doesn’t make sense to me. Of course me working like a dog and GIVING it to them doesn’t make a lot of sense to me either, but at least I have stopped doing that now! LOL
Thanks ox I have read and read and read. When will I stop pining for that amazing guy. I have also noiticed that he has a new victim shall we say and I am tempted to warn her but i’d be painted the crazy ex just his exes were painted to me.
Dear Sara,
Sugar it takes TIME and I know that’s not what you want to hear right now, but you can’t rush some things. READ READ READ and that will help but it isn’t an instant fix. I wish it was! (((hugs)))
Yeah, Oxy. Aint that the truth, that they will expend enormous amounts of energy on figuring out how not to have to work.
This and the way he’d disgard me with no sense of remorse and no looking back, is what most convinces me He’s spath, bacause there are simply charictaristics he doesn’t possess.
He never used the smear campaign on me or any of his past wives or girlfriends. But he did try to maintain some kind of connection to all of them…he tried that with me and I flat out said NO. Hell to the NO. I was finally done. I knew I couldn’t even handle a shallow aquantanceship with him, because it would only trigger all my anger and contempt, and desire to control his behavior. In short bring out the worst in me…and that is the best case scenario. At worst he’d weasle his way back in again.
I really like the lady who got my plant, but I was furious at him for taking it from me to give to her, and I knew him well enough by this time to know he wanted something from her. He went MIA all day, and got drunk, elsewhere, not even wishing me Happy Mother’s Day.
Come to think of it, my first Birthday I spent with him, he suggested we grill steaks, and get some potato salad and baked beans. When we got to the regester, he had no money…so I had to pay. Why didn’t I see that huge flag?
Oh well. He must have been hungry.
It’s funny. I had to prepare myself for the new woman whom I new was soon coming. I knew it would kill me, emotionally, but it didn’t have anything to do with real jealousy. I didn’t want him….unless he changed, and the one thing I knew I couldn’t handle was if he changed for someone else. I also was also really mad that there would be another enabler in his life, letting him get away with his shiat. I wanted, even then, for him to be forced to change. I know now that that will never happen, and he is treating her exactly like he did me. Hopefully she is able to see it faster and get out sooner. But, at the time I thought, “if she enables him, then she deserves the pain she’s in. Then I realized I was talking to myself, and believe I didn’t deserve any of the pain he caused. Neither does she. I just wish we could educated everybody, not only to protect US, but so we could finally find away to starve out spathdom. They would shrivel up and blow away if no one enabled.
Kim, completely wish the same: education and awareness building. That’s what is great about this site – and this community!
Ox and Kim:
Thank you two for the laughs!
Ox:
I was ‘thinkin’ he was planning on NOT paying the bill and believing himself if he ‘stuck’ me with it (although its in HIS name, attached to HIS SS #) Id ‘just pay it” as I have the means to do it. BBWWHHAAHHAA! Nope…I AM enjoying this service (WITH DVR included), which I would NEVER pay for! He will HAVE to let me know when hes turning it off because even if he pays the bill, his account wont shut until I turn in the ‘hardware’…which, ironically, he will CONTINUE to get charged for UNTIL I turn it in! GOOD LORD, THE LITTLE THINGS THAT HAVE TICKLED ME ABOUT THIS!!!
Kim:
YUP! He DID try to make our previously scheduled COUPLES counseling session…despite the fact HE LEFT ME…again. What an idiot! I see his game…either he wanted to ‘save face’ in front of our therapist by having one more ‘couples’ session (which , by the way, is IDIOTIC…WE BROKE UP) OR he was ‘checking up’ to see if I had cancelled all together…In his mind, if our session was still a ‘go’, then there was a chance to reconnect, really stick it to me in front of the counselor, but ‘pretneding’ to only want good for me.
He’s sick…although I got a BOXER puppy and Comcast out of it 🙂