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“How did he really feel?” and “What did he want from me?”

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January 26, 2007 //  by Liane Leedom, M.D.

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“How did he really feel?” and “What did he want from me?” are two questions that often haunt victims of sociopaths. The reason we are haunted by these questions varies but often stems from the habit of over-focusing on the sociopath instead of ourselves. That being said, victims also have a healthy ”˜need to know’ that can help with recovery and healing.

I struggled with these questions in my own healing. I remain baffled by my observations of enjoyment of affection on the part of sociopaths. Early on, I told my own therapist that I had come to the conclusion that sociopaths exploit those close to them to the point of death, then, cry at the funeral. At the moment the tears are shed, I believe they do represent a grief of sorts. The feelings of loss experienced by sociopaths are however, short lived. Victims also have to beware because, although sociopaths are said to be incapable of feelings for those in their lives, they do become obsessed with them. Psychologists have not yet explained this obsession. If they don’t attach, why are they obsessed? Those who have read my other entries know that I believe that sociopaths do attach. It is what they do with attachments that is disordered.

How did he really feel?

In response to the picture of a sociopath crying at his victim’s funeral, my therapist said, “He feels what he tells himself he feels.” To help you understand what my therapist meant, I will explain what is known about how people usually experience feelings.

There are two components to feelings. The first is a physical sensation. When we experience a feeling we feel something in our bodies in relationship to that feeling. Think about loving someone close to you and sense how your body feels. Is it warmth in your heart? That is usually what people report.

There is much evidence that these physical sensations are disordered in sociopaths. Sociopaths do not generally experience the physical and hormonal changes that go along with feeling emotion. If they do experience them, it is to a lesser degree. Physical responses are blunted.

The second component of feelings is called attribution. Attribution is a cognitive process. When I feel that warmth in my heart as I see my children, I attribute the sensation to my love for them. Thus the physical sensation alone does not make emotion. Emotion is physical sensations and our interpretations of these sensations. There is also evidence that the parts of the brain responsible for attribution do not function properly in sociopaths.

There is one emotion that many sociopaths experience in a not so disordered way. This emotion is anger. Sociopaths do have blunted physical responses to anger. Despite this blunted responsiveness, they seem aware of angry feelings and make correct attributions about what makes them angry. Again, science has not even addressed, much less explained this observation.

Since the physical sensations and attributions that allow for the experience of emotion are disordered in sociopaths, their inner world is very different. They are left to make sense of themselves and others without the tools most of us use. Other parts of the brain fill in the missing processes. The person who is credited with first describing sociopathy in depth is Hervey Cleckley. He proposed that sociopaths are at least of average if not above average verbal intelligence. This makes sense because they have to use their verbal intelligence to make up for their lack of emotions. They do indeed feel what they tell themselves they feel. Scientists say they mimic other people’s emotions, yet again there is no real proof of this.

What did he want from me?

This question is easy to answer intellectually, but very hard for victims to accept emotionally. There are three pleasures we get from our love relationships. The first is pleasure in affection. The second is sexual pleasure. The third is pleasure associated with dominance and control. Sociopaths experience sex and dominance as enormously more pleasurable than affection. Therefore, they are in relationships to get sex and power, pure and simple.

If you love deeply and feel affection for others, you cannot fathom the inner world of an emotionally disordered person whose primary pleasures are sex and power. To understand another’s world you have to imagine yourself experiencing what the other experiences. You can’t do this with a sociopath.

Louise Gallagher said in her post The six steps of healing from a psychopath that the first step is acceptance. We have to accept that we can only know in part how sociopaths really feel and what they want from us. We can understand intellectually, but never emotionally.

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superkid10
14 years ago

I am wondering if my former spath is breaking the law. He has a .45 amongst other guns…. i wonder if it’s registered or if he has a permit, how can i find out?

one/joy_step_at_a_time
14 years ago

sk – how about just making an anonymous call from a payphone to the sheriffs office, saying that you heard this guy had guns that might not be registered?

hens
14 years ago

payphone? I have not seen a payphone in years…

Hope to heal
14 years ago

Hens ~ They’re pretty rare these days. Most people have cell phones, so not much need for payphones.

All you need to do to make a call anonymously is first press * then 67. It blocks caller ID. I use it anytime that I am dialing an 800 number, especially when using my cell phone. It keeps my cell number off of any “lists” for sales calls etc. 🙂

one/joy_step_at_a_time
14 years ago

thing is hens – you think the phone company doesn’t track ALL of our calls? it’s not just about the spath not knowing who has called. best to leave NO trail.

lots of payphones left here. not so much on the street, but in libraries and community centres and colleges, etc.

hens
14 years ago

Oh I know all about *67….three years ago when I had my numbers changed to unlisted I also changed my billing name to my middle name, I doubt he remembers my middle name or the color of my eyes, or Hell by now I bet he never gives me a thought, it’s all about him, they live in the moment, they dont dwell on the past, I am somewhat envious that they can live so baggageless, they are like any predator tho, just seek and destroy, seek and devour, no remorse…I have remorse that I didnt cut his dick off when I had the chance – see there? I am a remoresfull dood…..

Ox Drover
14 years ago

Hens, that is NOT WHAT IS MEANT BY REMORSEFUL….LOL ROTFLMAO and you’d be in jail, so good thing you didn’t do that.

I know there are times we wish we had done something like that…we wouldn’t be human if we didn’t have some ugly thoughts about revenge sometimes, especially considering what they have done to us, but I’m glad you didn’t, cause YOU”D feel guilty!

KatyDid
14 years ago

PLEASE?! The puns I could write about…
ashamed of myself but not remorseful
Katy

yeah yeah. i’ll delete myself.

denialmomma
13 years ago

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candy
13 years ago

denialmomma Welcome to Lovefraud.

’I am so confused.’ This is NORMAL. He has messed with your head for sooooooooo long. It’s all about CONTROL. He has been controlling you and your thoughts.

’I left my “spath” a week.’ Well done. Stay NO CONTACT ”“ it’s the only way. No emails/texts NOTHING. Spaths feed off this like vampires.

’We have 2 kids together.’ Others on LF have been through this and will be able to advise you. The kids are pawns in his game. He will use them to ’get to you’

’He has been lying and cheating on me since we got married.’ This is what they do. Other women, emails, porn blah blah.

We’ve all been there. You are NOT alone. Very often they contact their ex’s it’s called triangulation. They usually have several women on the go at any one time.

Facebook and internet dating sites are a cesspool that spath wallows in. It gives him drama and he feeds off it.

’He has 7 kids by 6 different women.’ And I bet you thought he would change for you? All of us on here I think would say WE thought they would change. THEY DON’T.

’Now I am missing him.’ What you are missing is the trauma ”“ you have become TRAUMA BONDED and it’s like a drug. Go cold turkey. It’s the ONLY WAY.

’I left my house and all of me and my kids belongings.’ Is he still in your house? The police can help you to get your stuff. He will try the ’oh come and get it routine’ don’t fall for it. He will try any hook to get you BACK IN LINE.

’I living with my mom.’ You have a place of safety ”“ THINK OF YOUR KIDS.

’I don’t have a job and I don’t know how I can provide for my kids.’ I’m sure mum can help out in the short term if she’s able. I don’t know which country you are in but most places have benefits/refuges where you can get help.

’He tells me that he loves me and wants me back.’ Yeah right?! NOT! Trauma bonding at it’s best.

’He said that no man is gonna want me with his 2 kids, they will want a woman without kids.’ Yeah like HE knows that. He’s trying to make you feel like you have no choice but to go back. Don’t fall for THAT one.

’Now all I can think of is all of the good times we had.’ Were they good times? It was all a dream. A dream of what YOU wanted ”“ none of it was real to him.

’I don’t want my kids to be without their father.’ Your kids don’t need THIS kind of father. What kind of a role model is he?

’I am so depressed.’ This is because you are coming out of the FOG (fear and obligation)

’Im sleeping on the couch and my kids don’t have a bed.’ But you and the kids are SAFE.

’I think that I should just go back till I can get a job, car and save some money.’ NO a thousand times NO. This is a never never hope on your part. He will just wear you down and next time it will be even harder to break free.

’I really need some help!!!!’ You are in the right place

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