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“How did he really feel?” and “What did he want from me?”

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January 26, 2007 //  by Liane Leedom, M.D.

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“How did he really feel?” and “What did he want from me?” are two questions that often haunt victims of sociopaths. The reason we are haunted by these questions varies but often stems from the habit of over-focusing on the sociopath instead of ourselves. That being said, victims also have a healthy ”˜need to know’ that can help with recovery and healing.

I struggled with these questions in my own healing. I remain baffled by my observations of enjoyment of affection on the part of sociopaths. Early on, I told my own therapist that I had come to the conclusion that sociopaths exploit those close to them to the point of death, then, cry at the funeral. At the moment the tears are shed, I believe they do represent a grief of sorts. The feelings of loss experienced by sociopaths are however, short lived. Victims also have to beware because, although sociopaths are said to be incapable of feelings for those in their lives, they do become obsessed with them. Psychologists have not yet explained this obsession. If they don’t attach, why are they obsessed? Those who have read my other entries know that I believe that sociopaths do attach. It is what they do with attachments that is disordered.

How did he really feel?

In response to the picture of a sociopath crying at his victim’s funeral, my therapist said, “He feels what he tells himself he feels.” To help you understand what my therapist meant, I will explain what is known about how people usually experience feelings.

There are two components to feelings. The first is a physical sensation. When we experience a feeling we feel something in our bodies in relationship to that feeling. Think about loving someone close to you and sense how your body feels. Is it warmth in your heart? That is usually what people report.

There is much evidence that these physical sensations are disordered in sociopaths. Sociopaths do not generally experience the physical and hormonal changes that go along with feeling emotion. If they do experience them, it is to a lesser degree. Physical responses are blunted.

The second component of feelings is called attribution. Attribution is a cognitive process. When I feel that warmth in my heart as I see my children, I attribute the sensation to my love for them. Thus the physical sensation alone does not make emotion. Emotion is physical sensations and our interpretations of these sensations. There is also evidence that the parts of the brain responsible for attribution do not function properly in sociopaths.

There is one emotion that many sociopaths experience in a not so disordered way. This emotion is anger. Sociopaths do have blunted physical responses to anger. Despite this blunted responsiveness, they seem aware of angry feelings and make correct attributions about what makes them angry. Again, science has not even addressed, much less explained this observation.

Since the physical sensations and attributions that allow for the experience of emotion are disordered in sociopaths, their inner world is very different. They are left to make sense of themselves and others without the tools most of us use. Other parts of the brain fill in the missing processes. The person who is credited with first describing sociopathy in depth is Hervey Cleckley. He proposed that sociopaths are at least of average if not above average verbal intelligence. This makes sense because they have to use their verbal intelligence to make up for their lack of emotions. They do indeed feel what they tell themselves they feel. Scientists say they mimic other people’s emotions, yet again there is no real proof of this.

What did he want from me?

This question is easy to answer intellectually, but very hard for victims to accept emotionally. There are three pleasures we get from our love relationships. The first is pleasure in affection. The second is sexual pleasure. The third is pleasure associated with dominance and control. Sociopaths experience sex and dominance as enormously more pleasurable than affection. Therefore, they are in relationships to get sex and power, pure and simple.

If you love deeply and feel affection for others, you cannot fathom the inner world of an emotionally disordered person whose primary pleasures are sex and power. To understand another’s world you have to imagine yourself experiencing what the other experiences. You can’t do this with a sociopath.

Louise Gallagher said in her post The six steps of healing from a psychopath that the first step is acceptance. We have to accept that we can only know in part how sociopaths really feel and what they want from us. We can understand intellectually, but never emotionally.

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denialmomma
13 years ago

@Ox Drover, We are legally married and both my kids are legally his. His name is on the birth certificates. No friends or family out of state. He knows where all of my family lives. I feel trapped and sad that I have to deal with him.

Ana
13 years ago

Hi Denialmomma,
I feel for you and your children. I think Oxy gave you good advise. Instead of feeling bad/sad that you have to deal with him; make him sad/bored out of his mind that he has to deal with YOU! Above all be safe for you and your children. My prayers go with you.

Ox Drover
13 years ago

Dear Denialmomma,

I understand you feel trapped and it will be difficult to break free, so be CAREFUL he does not get on to what you are planning to do.

You MUST BE STRONG AND DETERMINED….unfortunately 85% of women who are physically abused go back to the abuser….so you are going to have to buck the odds and be dETERMINED and secretive.

I am not sure how old your kids are, but the older the better of course….go to the domestic violence shelter and talk to the counselor, describe your situation and see what they recommend.

Get as much cash together as you can secretly hide, and the “to go” emergency bag….with documents or copies of them. You may need to hide this at a friend’s house. Also, be CAREFUL who you talk to as far as “friends” are concerned, many that you may trust may NOT BE TRUST WORTHY….so mum is the word, play your cards close to your chest.

Don’t change your behavior too suddenly, but slowly become more passive and “boring” (gray rock) try not to tick him off if you can avoid it, while you get your money and plans together.

I am like you, I hope he will desert you, and maybe he will find another victim and do so….you seemed to indicate he had done this in the past with other women and children….

Has he been physically abusive to you, previous women or the children or previous children? If so, be sure that it is documented with photos and witnesses of injuries.

Keep on reading here and learning….gathering up your assets and making your plans. God bless.

ErinBrock
13 years ago

Hmmmm.

denialmomma
13 years ago

@Ana Thank you for the prayers!!

@Ox Dover I already left a week ago. I’m staying with my mom. My kids are really little. He has never been physically abusive to me but he has abused his ex’s. I don’t think he will hurt the kids physically but I do think he will try and use them to get to me. I want to go file for full custody of my kids but I don’t want him to get a court order for part custody. I’m hoping he just leaves us alone.

I am going to get therapy this week.

Louise
13 years ago

EB:

That is awesome!!!!! I love it!

ErinBrock
13 years ago

🙂
Where is everyone tonight????

Louise
13 years ago

I was thinking the same thing, EB!

ErinBrock
13 years ago

DMomma;
I couldn’t see all of your posts (the handy delete button), but I see you are out. Most importantly.
Stay strong, through the ups and downs….and GET temporary orders in place!
There are some weird custody things that can happen without orders in place!!! (Especially if you’ve taken kids out of state).
If he goes to the court before you….you could be sunk.
Get there and file NOW!
The rest can be sorted out later.

Also, he may disappear later, but most likely only AFTER the fight for the pawns (the kids). Once he loses his footing, then they will take off. Not usually before.

Good luck, read up on LF and buckle in for a gnarly divorce.
Welcome to LF!!!
XXOO
EB

ErinBrock
13 years ago

eb,
Scumbag!

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