“How did he really feel?” and “What did he want from me?” are two questions that often haunt victims of sociopaths. The reason we are haunted by these questions varies but often stems from the habit of over-focusing on the sociopath instead of ourselves. That being said, victims also have a healthy ”˜need to know’ that can help with recovery and healing.
I struggled with these questions in my own healing. I remain baffled by my observations of enjoyment of affection on the part of sociopaths. Early on, I told my own therapist that I had come to the conclusion that sociopaths exploit those close to them to the point of death, then, cry at the funeral. At the moment the tears are shed, I believe they do represent a grief of sorts. The feelings of loss experienced by sociopaths are however, short lived. Victims also have to beware because, although sociopaths are said to be incapable of feelings for those in their lives, they do become obsessed with them. Psychologists have not yet explained this obsession. If they don’t attach, why are they obsessed? Those who have read my other entries know that I believe that sociopaths do attach. It is what they do with attachments that is disordered.
How did he really feel?
In response to the picture of a sociopath crying at his victim’s funeral, my therapist said, “He feels what he tells himself he feels.” To help you understand what my therapist meant, I will explain what is known about how people usually experience feelings.
There are two components to feelings. The first is a physical sensation. When we experience a feeling we feel something in our bodies in relationship to that feeling. Think about loving someone close to you and sense how your body feels. Is it warmth in your heart? That is usually what people report.
There is much evidence that these physical sensations are disordered in sociopaths. Sociopaths do not generally experience the physical and hormonal changes that go along with feeling emotion. If they do experience them, it is to a lesser degree. Physical responses are blunted.
The second component of feelings is called attribution. Attribution is a cognitive process. When I feel that warmth in my heart as I see my children, I attribute the sensation to my love for them. Thus the physical sensation alone does not make emotion. Emotion is physical sensations and our interpretations of these sensations. There is also evidence that the parts of the brain responsible for attribution do not function properly in sociopaths.
There is one emotion that many sociopaths experience in a not so disordered way. This emotion is anger. Sociopaths do have blunted physical responses to anger. Despite this blunted responsiveness, they seem aware of angry feelings and make correct attributions about what makes them angry. Again, science has not even addressed, much less explained this observation.
Since the physical sensations and attributions that allow for the experience of emotion are disordered in sociopaths, their inner world is very different. They are left to make sense of themselves and others without the tools most of us use. Other parts of the brain fill in the missing processes. The person who is credited with first describing sociopathy in depth is Hervey Cleckley. He proposed that sociopaths are at least of average if not above average verbal intelligence. This makes sense because they have to use their verbal intelligence to make up for their lack of emotions. They do indeed feel what they tell themselves they feel. Scientists say they mimic other people’s emotions, yet again there is no real proof of this.
What did he want from me?
This question is easy to answer intellectually, but very hard for victims to accept emotionally. There are three pleasures we get from our love relationships. The first is pleasure in affection. The second is sexual pleasure. The third is pleasure associated with dominance and control. Sociopaths experience sex and dominance as enormously more pleasurable than affection. Therefore, they are in relationships to get sex and power, pure and simple.
If you love deeply and feel affection for others, you cannot fathom the inner world of an emotionally disordered person whose primary pleasures are sex and power. To understand another’s world you have to imagine yourself experiencing what the other experiences. You can’t do this with a sociopath.
Louise Gallagher said in her post The six steps of healing from a psychopath that the first step is acceptance. We have to accept that we can only know in part how sociopaths really feel and what they want from us. We can understand intellectually, but never emotionally.
SK;
Today’s online world makes NC ever so difficult. With all the news about riots in London, I saw a video of a looting less than 1/4 mile from the x-spath’s flat…
Of course that made me wonder if he is safe, so I looked at his sister’s FB wall, which is open. Thankfully, his is not open, nor does he tweet…
I guess I was expecting her to show some concern for “baby brother” but nothing. I guess I should not be surprised as she only once posted something about him, and he has not posted anything about her…
Actually, most of her banter was the usual drinking related stuff. But I did see something interesting. She posted a picture of her two sons, ages about 10 and 8. The older is “cheeky” with a big smile and bright eyes. The younger looks a lot like his uncle, even at 8 showing the same distant stare and lack of a real smile. I hope I am wrong about the kid.
But you can see how even these little transgressions of NC get you thinking…
SK,
To me, a “tell” is when they tell you something that has 2 meanings. So if you figure out the true meaning, they can deny that that’s what it means. Or, it’s a truth buried in a lie. In this case, he told me the 2 little girls “visited” him to “talk”.
A “mask slip” is when they show their true nature because they lose control. Usually that happens at the end of the relationshit.
In the case of your spath saying he “would have hundreds of kids by now” I think maybe, that was a test, to see how you feel about his promiscuity. My spath said something similar about having had sex with so many women. But now I think there was more to it than JUST a test. He paints himself as being a womanizer to many of his friends. That’s so they won’t suspect that he is, in fact, also a bisexual and a pedophile. Being a spath, he’ll screw anything.
Oxy,
I know! how could I not have seen it? It’s possible that my subconscious did see it and that’s why I’ve mentioned it a few times. I think that much of the time, when we talk/blog, we are actually talking to OURSELVES. Communicating things between the conscious and subconscious.
But since I didn’t hear the truth from myself, I appreciate SK pointing it out to me.
Oxy
Hugs, lady! I do appreciate your tireless rant of NC! I really do!
Yea, Sky, you kept mentioning that 2-3 times and I figured you “got it”!!!!! Yea, we ARE talking to ourselves….I know that for SURE! I know I do. What I “preach” to others I am also PREACHING TO MYSELF! REINFORCING TO MYSELF.
You talked about how he would have young men around, like the young guy that lived in the RV….remember that article that Donna did about some Psychopaths are not straight OR gay, they will just fark ANYTHING or anyone? It sounds like your P X is that way, probably swung EVERY WHICH WAY, not just “left or right.”
The Trojan Horse Psychopath liked kids of both sexes, adults and anything that could be dreamed up by his perverted mind.
Ox, do you happen to remember the name of that article?
Never mind.. found it.
I heard this song and thought of us on LF. It’s about a woman trying (and waiting) for her man to ‘come good’.
She’s in denial and living in the hope that ‘oneday’ he will change.
It’s really about a drunk but I can so relate this song to my ex spath. See what you think.
Just type in….’Joss Stone – Somehow lyrics new single promo’ on Youtube.
SK;
Even with all the evidence to the contrary, I still have this image of my x-spath being a “nice” guy. This is only because of his British accent and quite demeanor. He is a wolf in sheep’s clothing.
So, when my empathy gets the better of me, such as in the case of riots and shootings very near to his flat, I remind myself of indisputable facts, not speculation.
For example, while I may speculate based upon very strong evidence that he may have been guilty of a sex crime, most likely sex with a minor, I don’t have evidence of this.
An indisputable fact — while he was dating me and telling me that he is sorted, reserved and not the type to just jump into bed, online he posted videos of himself masturbating as well as having a dating profile stating his hobbies are “boys, beers and fooling around.”
Enough said. He is not a nice guy.
Blue – How are you doing today? Did you get rid of him?
The mooch? That was quite easy actually.
Was it you that said he would very soon start showing his controlling nature? Well, I saw that!
What I did was a little test. I figured if he had any good in him, if I told him I was still feeling stressed and really needed a night to myself, that he would understand. At that point, I also made up my mind I would actually let him stay that night, like I said, knowing I had already told him Wednesday and Thursday were not good for me. Then my plan was to tell him our “relationship” was not working for me…
But as expected, he went into a melt-down and started berating me via text. I did not reply to any of his texts. I just deleted them and him…
Have not heard from him since. He is on to his next victim. Or customer, as I am convinced he sells himself…
Hi Blue. Excellent result. So proud of you. Don’t think the quote was me – but it was sound advice.
‘I just deleted them (texts) and him’ – now that’s a classic.