“How did he really feel?” and “What did he want from me?” are two questions that often haunt victims of sociopaths. The reason we are haunted by these questions varies but often stems from the habit of over-focusing on the sociopath instead of ourselves. That being said, victims also have a healthy ”˜need to know’ that can help with recovery and healing.
I struggled with these questions in my own healing. I remain baffled by my observations of enjoyment of affection on the part of sociopaths. Early on, I told my own therapist that I had come to the conclusion that sociopaths exploit those close to them to the point of death, then, cry at the funeral. At the moment the tears are shed, I believe they do represent a grief of sorts. The feelings of loss experienced by sociopaths are however, short lived. Victims also have to beware because, although sociopaths are said to be incapable of feelings for those in their lives, they do become obsessed with them. Psychologists have not yet explained this obsession. If they don’t attach, why are they obsessed? Those who have read my other entries know that I believe that sociopaths do attach. It is what they do with attachments that is disordered.
How did he really feel?
In response to the picture of a sociopath crying at his victim’s funeral, my therapist said, “He feels what he tells himself he feels.” To help you understand what my therapist meant, I will explain what is known about how people usually experience feelings.
There are two components to feelings. The first is a physical sensation. When we experience a feeling we feel something in our bodies in relationship to that feeling. Think about loving someone close to you and sense how your body feels. Is it warmth in your heart? That is usually what people report.
There is much evidence that these physical sensations are disordered in sociopaths. Sociopaths do not generally experience the physical and hormonal changes that go along with feeling emotion. If they do experience them, it is to a lesser degree. Physical responses are blunted.
The second component of feelings is called attribution. Attribution is a cognitive process. When I feel that warmth in my heart as I see my children, I attribute the sensation to my love for them. Thus the physical sensation alone does not make emotion. Emotion is physical sensations and our interpretations of these sensations. There is also evidence that the parts of the brain responsible for attribution do not function properly in sociopaths.
There is one emotion that many sociopaths experience in a not so disordered way. This emotion is anger. Sociopaths do have blunted physical responses to anger. Despite this blunted responsiveness, they seem aware of angry feelings and make correct attributions about what makes them angry. Again, science has not even addressed, much less explained this observation.
Since the physical sensations and attributions that allow for the experience of emotion are disordered in sociopaths, their inner world is very different. They are left to make sense of themselves and others without the tools most of us use. Other parts of the brain fill in the missing processes. The person who is credited with first describing sociopathy in depth is Hervey Cleckley. He proposed that sociopaths are at least of average if not above average verbal intelligence. This makes sense because they have to use their verbal intelligence to make up for their lack of emotions. They do indeed feel what they tell themselves they feel. Scientists say they mimic other people’s emotions, yet again there is no real proof of this.
What did he want from me?
This question is easy to answer intellectually, but very hard for victims to accept emotionally. There are three pleasures we get from our love relationships. The first is pleasure in affection. The second is sexual pleasure. The third is pleasure associated with dominance and control. Sociopaths experience sex and dominance as enormously more pleasurable than affection. Therefore, they are in relationships to get sex and power, pure and simple.
If you love deeply and feel affection for others, you cannot fathom the inner world of an emotionally disordered person whose primary pleasures are sex and power. To understand another’s world you have to imagine yourself experiencing what the other experiences. You can’t do this with a sociopath.
Louise Gallagher said in her post The six steps of healing from a psychopath that the first step is acceptance. We have to accept that we can only know in part how sociopaths really feel and what they want from us. We can understand intellectually, but never emotionally.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Double_bind
Hey, thanks skylar (xxoo) check out that link on ‘double bind’…
wow: hmm….interesting to say the least.
Thanks for the congrats! Oh yes, gets better all the time now.
I don’t think the hurt ever goes away but I am learning how to reprocess it now.
Love & wishes to you too…
The double bind…in schizo’s is an escape from a state of thinking learned from a child as a way of their coping as an adult…they rationalize the difficulties by stepping into a different and altered state of reality where most of it is made up and not real. This is the same kind of thing a drug addict will do when they are short of a fix…their whole being becomes tuned to finding it. Same thing only instead of it being a drug, it is a DRUG for them, inside their own minds: a way to escape reality. So they aren’t really in touch with reality and can’t feel it or experience it.
Interesting. That is why we are so ‘off balance’ with all of this because we were receiving two different messages = confusion. But it was inherent in them anyways and they were conveying it to us. It became a habit for us and now we must try to break that habit. 🙂
Our minds were almost conditioned to ‘accept’ and ‘reason’ that double bind just like theirs. We came in tuned and accustomed to it…escaping reality with them. We allowed them to ‘lead’ us right straight into a corner. And when they got us to that corner, it all exploded because they became too confused to see their way out. Like a cougar who is trapped up against a wall…they escaped and left us at the wall…
I still say that we choose and make our own destinies in this life. EVEN THEY HAVE CHOICES.
Ana,
I think if we all knew how many spaths are actually walking around us every day, we would all :::scream:::!
I know some people probably think that I throw the word “spath” around way too loosely, encompassing the fence sitters with the instigators. But what DO you call “people” who walk around envious? And not only envious, but who take every opportunity to sabotage and create drama while putting on a phony mask of love and friendship? WHO DOES THAT?
spaths.
My parents come to mind. Nobody would call them sociopaths, though my father is an obvious narcissist. They seem very nice and devoted to their spath kids.
But I think it’s a mask.
When I asked them, several times, why they didn’t tell me that they overheard my spath SAYING that he was only with me for my money, they gave me 3 different answers. The last answer was the most telling.
First answer: “We didn’t think you would believe us.”
Second answer: “We DID tell you, you just don’t remember, your father never stopped harping about it.”
It is true, that they told me spath was only after my money, but they never told me they overheard him admit it. Why would I believe their spectulation? They speculate about motivations all the time. So why wouldn’t I give my loving spath, the benefit of the doubt?
The third and most telling answer was:
“Well how much money did you give your mother? hahahahah!” said daddy dearest.
“Oh, about $500, hahahahaha!” said mommy dearest.
“WTF?” said skylar.
“Why are you talking about how much money I’ve given you?”
It took a second for me to understand that my parents envied the insurance settlement that I got from a car accident.
–But wait. I realized yesterday, that when daddy dearest overheard the spath’s comment, I had been in the car accident and was pretty sure I would get a settlement, but I didn’t know how much. At that time, I didn’t have much money. So…WTF?
It wasn’t the money they envied. That became their excuse later to appease their own cogdis. They just envied me for being me.
That’s why I always say “they’re everywhere”. Envy is rampant, it is everywhere.
Envy is one of the driving forces of a spath.
I believe it is true. That’s what makes them so cunning.
They tell us what we want to hear, suck us in by using our kindnesses and good graces, believing where we were lead and when we expected more, they threw us face first into the ground because they were jealous and this was funny and entertaining to them.
Yes, they are everywhere and the more our society digresses from values and things of virtue, the more prevalent they are going to become in our society. Just my take on it.
Wow Duped!
The double bind is very interesting too! I’m still reading it.
The cog dis wiki was so intersting. There was a sentence:
Washing one’s hands has been shown to eliminate post-decisional dissonance, presumably because the dissonance is often caused by moral disgust (with oneself) which is related to disgust from unsanitary conditions
This is what I experienced whenever I would visit my spath sis and trojan horse Brother in law. It was an overwhelming feeling of needing to take a shower! This was several years before I knew about spaths or that BIL was a trojan horse. I remember mentioning it to my mother. Their home was very clean and nice, but they made me feel slimed and I wanted to wash after being in close proximity to them.
oh yes, the washing of one’s hands…
something spath used to constantly do.
He also carried around those little baby wipes to wipe himself after going to the bathroom. Something he learned in combat, I am sure but to carry that over into real life…I mean, come on…whatever floats your boat, is what I thought but his OBSESSION for cleanliness and neatness and “WHY DID YOU HANG THOSE UP LIKE THAT!” It was just constant…always knew everything about everything…just ask him.
Feeling SLIMED is a good way to put it ~
I always felt that way after he would leave my presence…
To think I actually LOVED “THAT”! EWWWW!!!!
My radar was way off on that one!!!
Oh, he said, smirking: “Don’t think I am going to waste any time feeling guilty about you nor sorry….I will just be happy to get you out of my life so I don’t have to listen to you anymore, you stupid bitch.” Oh really? Excuse me, DEMON, where did THAT outburst come from? What pit from hell did THAT comment spew from???
Yes: CD….definitely. They are just not in touch with reality. The reality they have is the one they made up from all the lies they have told to get to this point in their life. It’s all lies. Except for the parts that CAN BE substantiated. Their interpersonal relationships are all LIES and manufactured, inside their head. When you don’t give them what they perceive, all of a sudden, you become the ‘bad guy’…”WHAT IS WRONG WITH YOU? ARE YOU CRAZY?” Yah, right….
Just a big old pretense, all of it.
But, to be fair to us (known to be called blindsided) I must say that they are very cunning and have honed those skills so well, you can’t even see it coming.
Hey Duped,
My friend spath had a “cleaning” habit also. I guess they must feel somehow; dirty.
Skylar,
I agree with you, they are everywhere. I just came back from dinner with husband and I asked him if he walks around being envious…he said no.
I know that if I want something someone else may have, I either work to go get it for myself, or I forget about it. I don’t carry envy around..It’s so right on the mark and so weird isn’t it?
Well, that was some revelation about your parents! That onion just keeps getting peeled layer by layer. I’ve had some memories of my childhood come back lately. I tell them to my husband just so they get heard. His parents were not like mine..I think he got the good ones. But, we keep on Skylar. Investigating and sharing here with others helps me. So, thanks.
Ana: THEY DESERVE AND NEED TO FEEL DIRTY. xxoo
All the cleaning in the whole world isn’t going to wash away those twisted minds!!!!!