“How did he really feel?” and “What did he want from me?” are two questions that often haunt victims of sociopaths. The reason we are haunted by these questions varies but often stems from the habit of over-focusing on the sociopath instead of ourselves. That being said, victims also have a healthy ”˜need to know’ that can help with recovery and healing.
I struggled with these questions in my own healing. I remain baffled by my observations of enjoyment of affection on the part of sociopaths. Early on, I told my own therapist that I had come to the conclusion that sociopaths exploit those close to them to the point of death, then, cry at the funeral. At the moment the tears are shed, I believe they do represent a grief of sorts. The feelings of loss experienced by sociopaths are however, short lived. Victims also have to beware because, although sociopaths are said to be incapable of feelings for those in their lives, they do become obsessed with them. Psychologists have not yet explained this obsession. If they don’t attach, why are they obsessed? Those who have read my other entries know that I believe that sociopaths do attach. It is what they do with attachments that is disordered.
How did he really feel?
In response to the picture of a sociopath crying at his victim’s funeral, my therapist said, “He feels what he tells himself he feels.” To help you understand what my therapist meant, I will explain what is known about how people usually experience feelings.
There are two components to feelings. The first is a physical sensation. When we experience a feeling we feel something in our bodies in relationship to that feeling. Think about loving someone close to you and sense how your body feels. Is it warmth in your heart? That is usually what people report.
There is much evidence that these physical sensations are disordered in sociopaths. Sociopaths do not generally experience the physical and hormonal changes that go along with feeling emotion. If they do experience them, it is to a lesser degree. Physical responses are blunted.
The second component of feelings is called attribution. Attribution is a cognitive process. When I feel that warmth in my heart as I see my children, I attribute the sensation to my love for them. Thus the physical sensation alone does not make emotion. Emotion is physical sensations and our interpretations of these sensations. There is also evidence that the parts of the brain responsible for attribution do not function properly in sociopaths.
There is one emotion that many sociopaths experience in a not so disordered way. This emotion is anger. Sociopaths do have blunted physical responses to anger. Despite this blunted responsiveness, they seem aware of angry feelings and make correct attributions about what makes them angry. Again, science has not even addressed, much less explained this observation.
Since the physical sensations and attributions that allow for the experience of emotion are disordered in sociopaths, their inner world is very different. They are left to make sense of themselves and others without the tools most of us use. Other parts of the brain fill in the missing processes. The person who is credited with first describing sociopathy in depth is Hervey Cleckley. He proposed that sociopaths are at least of average if not above average verbal intelligence. This makes sense because they have to use their verbal intelligence to make up for their lack of emotions. They do indeed feel what they tell themselves they feel. Scientists say they mimic other people’s emotions, yet again there is no real proof of this.
What did he want from me?
This question is easy to answer intellectually, but very hard for victims to accept emotionally. There are three pleasures we get from our love relationships. The first is pleasure in affection. The second is sexual pleasure. The third is pleasure associated with dominance and control. Sociopaths experience sex and dominance as enormously more pleasurable than affection. Therefore, they are in relationships to get sex and power, pure and simple.
If you love deeply and feel affection for others, you cannot fathom the inner world of an emotionally disordered person whose primary pleasures are sex and power. To understand another’s world you have to imagine yourself experiencing what the other experiences. You can’t do this with a sociopath.
Louise Gallagher said in her post The six steps of healing from a psychopath that the first step is acceptance. We have to accept that we can only know in part how sociopaths really feel and what they want from us. We can understand intellectually, but never emotionally.
still reeling said, “He was also irritated that I didn’t buy his pronouncement.”
I’ve smoked a few guys out in my peripheral acquaintances that way. Somehow, through the healing, I’ve become immune to flattery. It’s not even intentional ignoring of it, but a) I think “you don’t know me at all to have any grounds to say this” b) I feel a lot of selfvalidation, conviction and yet humility at the same time. The result is that flattery is like water off a duck’s back to me. And you know what tends to happens when I completely ignore it? First they become irritated and then they get obnoxious and insulting to me. Flattery didn’t work, so they turn 180° and then try to put me down. Doesn’t work either (though it may trigger me). But they unmask themselves real quickly when you don’t buy the flattery. And that’s exactly what flattery is: wanting to sell something to you.
still reeling,
you are welcome here! Everyone who shares an experience helps someone else as well as themselves. You just never know how your words can affect and help another. Truly.
still reeling:
Don’t leave! I felt the same way and still do somewhat. My relationship was also very short, but it was VERY damaging. It’s the mind f*ck that gets us and it doesn’t matter if it’s one week! Please don’t ever feel like your situation was any less important. I hope you are doing OK today.
Truthspeak: I truly understand your situation. Mine was so similar to yours. Yes, the hellish ordeal is that I, too, was left with no financial means. I am educated, with an advanced degree, but, together, we decided to have me stay home and take care of our children. His career took off! I was happy for him and very happy and blessed to be able to stay home and take care of our children. Consequently and sadly, I willingly gave up financial security and allowed him to manage all of the money, OUR, money. I trusted my husband. If you can’t trust your spouse, I believed, who can you trust. All of our finances were in only the spaths name. What the hell was I thinking?
My state was also equitable division. I got nothing that resembled equitable division. Hardly equitable.
I had to seriously think through carefully if I could make it on my own. I was so scared of the spath because of the violence I had experienced throughout my marriage.
Staying in the marriage was not an option anymore. Finances were very concerning and frightening to me too. Spath had me believing that I could not make it on my own. It has been extremely difficult. My life is very different, but I have peace as I have want I need, not necessarily what I thought I needed, ie wanted. It is amazing when you have lost everything, how much you actually need. I also learned what was really important to me — its not stuff its relationships and people.
Those who have read my posts, I am a woman of a lot of faith. I have never been without food, clothing, shelter and medicine. I am so very grateful, as I believe God will always provide, even when it is mac ‘n cheese, eggs or soup. I have food. When I start to feel sorry for myself, I remember, or have been reminded, I am better off then some. Best yet, THE SPATH IS NOT MY HUSBAND ANYMORE. THE SPATHS CONTROL IS DIMINISHING.
The emotional, psychological game playing and abuse were unbelievable. It was my breaking point. The more I have learned about the spath, the more I do not want to know anymore.
The year that I left the spath and I can remember living in the fog. The money, stolen?, missing?, vanished? Hidden? Defied court orders, etc…..
Still Reeling: It doesn’t matter how long or short you have experienced this horrible spath, you are still one of us. I am so proud of you for getting out. You can do it. We are all here for you.
I got through all of it and am doing better. I still have days of sadness and feel so stupid that how could I have allowed this to happen to me. The spaths are good, very good. They lie and wear all kinds of masks and have mastered their game. We are just pawns. No contact at all. None. No emails, texts, mail, telephone. Nothing. Cold turkey. You can do it.
All should read the link about the Romeo. I read it and really took it all in. So true. Don’t forget to add the “gaslighting” feature to their personality too. We are not crazy. They just want us to think we are. We will stand together and encourage and advise. Together with our wisdom and experiences we can do it and help each other.
SurvivorAgain, a friend of mine told me about “Romeo Bleeding,” and actually READ me passages over the phone. She is completely aware of my past experiences and my current issues, and she VERY much wants to see the exspath in Federal Prison for his crimes. That will likely never come to pass – too much time since he perpetrated the crime, though only months since I discovered them. We’ll see.
The “Romeo Bleeding” information is, for me, so glaringly true and it’s vital that we understand HOW these people operate. The most recent exspath appealed to my sense of intellect – he claimed to be an author and to have worked as a journalist under some pretty dicey conditions. Always seeking the Truth, and always being so very conscious of “right and wrong.” His hoax was complete.
Any psychologists out there wanna tackle this really weird question? Why would a grown man want to strip down naked to use the toilette? I always thought it was odd, but I passed it off as just a weird habit. Now, I think there’s something FAR more indicative of this behavior….
Yes…..the gaslighting – VERY powerful to make another human being question their sanity when they’re not. The bastids.
Truthspeak,
I’m not a psychologist but I’ll take a random shot at that question.
Maybe it has to do with how he used the toilet when he was potty trained.
These spaths really really really never grew up. They are still operating under many of the emotional “needs” and “memories” of being about 2 years old.
I thought it was really strange how my spath would walk around with only a tee-shirt on. No underwear. And he would carry a cup of cheerios and eat from it. ummm… who does that? a two year old does.
Truthspeak: My exspath also committed crimes and should be in Federal Prison. I told people about the crimes, but like you said he has gotten away with it. It was even investigated, but people just do not want to get involved. I, clearly, do not understand the US legal system very well. Where is justice? I do not have faith in our system anymore due to my, and several of my personal friends, experiences. Just think, it is suppose to be one of the best in the world.
Your question about your exspath’s toliette habits? That is strange. I wonder if he does that at his place of employment also.
These spaths do try to appeal to the morals and integrity of their victims, because, like the article said, they do not have any.
I filed for divorce 4 years ago…. It was final 3 years ago. Like I said, I am still finding things out about my spath’s behavior now. I do not want to know anymore about what had been done while I was his wife, then during and after the divorce. It really frightens me to the point of crippling me because I can’t do a thing about it.
I second Skylar’s comment about spaths never growing up.
My x-spath’s online profiles can best be described as juvenile. While in his late 30s he prefers to wear clothing more appropriate for that of a teenage boy.
However, I never saw this. He decided his mask for me would be a bit more acting his age.
Fear.
Its what we have that they don’t.
Fear for and about our lives. That crippling uncertainty that shakes the root of who we are and leaves us hollow except for it.
Its a terror that wants to be a shadow to every waking moment. It colors all of our emotions and the emotion colors the experience of every day.
If we let it.
That is the challenge.
And the challenge can be an awesome one.
Because these people do unspeakable, horrible things. And they do some pretty weird stuff.
But its the horrible things that Survivor talks about that drag us to the darkest places.
Its the thing they do about never going away like EB writes that keeps the fear and loathing fresh.
It is a horrible experience to deal with. Horrible.
I don’t understand why we can put innocent people in jail but not these ugly creatures. But they seem to be harder to capture than the innocent. And we hear those stories all the time.
Its not just about the betrayed relationships. It has to do with very dark and awful things that these disordered are and that they do.
Like stealing lives beginning with the truth and escalating to the heart and culminating with everything.
It is not an experience anyone deserves. But it is an experience that a growing number of people will have as long as they are “out there”.
Are they unstoppable?
Well, its difficult. And its complicated and its expensive to stop them.
Sometimes we can and sometimes we can’t.
but we can make the choice to walk away. We can follow through on NC.
We can take step to make ourselves safe and we can revuild our lives and ourselves a day and a step at a time.
Because that is what we have to do.
Whatever came before the place where we find ourselves today is not meaningful if we are not fighting for tomorrow and the next day.
The decision is deliberate. It isn’t easy or comfortable on a lot of days. But it must be made as often as is needed.
The choice you make right now is the most important one. Whatever decision it is, it is for the best for your well being.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xR0DKOGco_o&feature=results_main&playnext=1&list=PLFB0ED08A6EAD8989
Silvermoon – good comments for me. Walking away without another word.
SurvivorAgain, it is apalling that the vast majority of spaths never face true public consequences for their actions. I mean, seriously – I realize that there are certainly larger fish for prosecutors to fry: murders, serial rapists, child molestors, etc….I get that. I GET that. But, I also get that the victims of the non-violent crimes that spaths commit are just as murdered, raped, molested, and so forth as the next person – so well put to me as to WHY “Betrayal” warranted the Ninth Circle of Hell was that a victim of murder does have an ultimate end to their suffering (albiet a horrible one, but an “end” nonetheless), and a victim of Betrayal must live with the ramifications of that for the rest of their lives – there IS NO closure or end to the suffering caused by betrayal because, from the moment the betrayal is revealed and to the end of days for the victim, they must live with the trust issues, etc., that are created by the spaths’ actions.
The only thing that I disagree with is that spaths don’t have a sense of FEAR. Oh, they do, they do. They fear exposure, if nothing else. A FEAR of being found out, exposed, and ignored. Fear of shame? Nope. Fear of consequences? Certainly not. Fear of rejection or abandonment? No – that only adds fuel to their fire of deliberate damage. They fear exposure.