“How did he really feel?” and “What did he want from me?” are two questions that often haunt victims of sociopaths. The reason we are haunted by these questions varies but often stems from the habit of over-focusing on the sociopath instead of ourselves. That being said, victims also have a healthy ”˜need to know’ that can help with recovery and healing.
I struggled with these questions in my own healing. I remain baffled by my observations of enjoyment of affection on the part of sociopaths. Early on, I told my own therapist that I had come to the conclusion that sociopaths exploit those close to them to the point of death, then, cry at the funeral. At the moment the tears are shed, I believe they do represent a grief of sorts. The feelings of loss experienced by sociopaths are however, short lived. Victims also have to beware because, although sociopaths are said to be incapable of feelings for those in their lives, they do become obsessed with them. Psychologists have not yet explained this obsession. If they don’t attach, why are they obsessed? Those who have read my other entries know that I believe that sociopaths do attach. It is what they do with attachments that is disordered.
How did he really feel?
In response to the picture of a sociopath crying at his victim’s funeral, my therapist said, “He feels what he tells himself he feels.” To help you understand what my therapist meant, I will explain what is known about how people usually experience feelings.
There are two components to feelings. The first is a physical sensation. When we experience a feeling we feel something in our bodies in relationship to that feeling. Think about loving someone close to you and sense how your body feels. Is it warmth in your heart? That is usually what people report.
There is much evidence that these physical sensations are disordered in sociopaths. Sociopaths do not generally experience the physical and hormonal changes that go along with feeling emotion. If they do experience them, it is to a lesser degree. Physical responses are blunted.
The second component of feelings is called attribution. Attribution is a cognitive process. When I feel that warmth in my heart as I see my children, I attribute the sensation to my love for them. Thus the physical sensation alone does not make emotion. Emotion is physical sensations and our interpretations of these sensations. There is also evidence that the parts of the brain responsible for attribution do not function properly in sociopaths.
There is one emotion that many sociopaths experience in a not so disordered way. This emotion is anger. Sociopaths do have blunted physical responses to anger. Despite this blunted responsiveness, they seem aware of angry feelings and make correct attributions about what makes them angry. Again, science has not even addressed, much less explained this observation.
Since the physical sensations and attributions that allow for the experience of emotion are disordered in sociopaths, their inner world is very different. They are left to make sense of themselves and others without the tools most of us use. Other parts of the brain fill in the missing processes. The person who is credited with first describing sociopathy in depth is Hervey Cleckley. He proposed that sociopaths are at least of average if not above average verbal intelligence. This makes sense because they have to use their verbal intelligence to make up for their lack of emotions. They do indeed feel what they tell themselves they feel. Scientists say they mimic other people’s emotions, yet again there is no real proof of this.
What did he want from me?
This question is easy to answer intellectually, but very hard for victims to accept emotionally. There are three pleasures we get from our love relationships. The first is pleasure in affection. The second is sexual pleasure. The third is pleasure associated with dominance and control. Sociopaths experience sex and dominance as enormously more pleasurable than affection. Therefore, they are in relationships to get sex and power, pure and simple.
If you love deeply and feel affection for others, you cannot fathom the inner world of an emotionally disordered person whose primary pleasures are sex and power. To understand another’s world you have to imagine yourself experiencing what the other experiences. You can’t do this with a sociopath.
Louise Gallagher said in her post The six steps of healing from a psychopath that the first step is acceptance. We have to accept that we can only know in part how sociopaths really feel and what they want from us. We can understand intellectually, but never emotionally.
Sorry….I got carried away with the fantasy note…I meant to say, when I got that phony “spiritual” response, I immediately thought of the “reverend” which I used to call him as a joke and responded as such. And ya know what? I still made an excuse for him in my mind, that he was probably in so much trouble, that any response to me was a compliment…hahahahahah.. I’m a masochist and sicker than him I think.
Apologies for all these posts.
Hope Athena or others can get some “comfort, healing and peace” from them – you guys are NOT alone.
Stillreeling, omigosh, the exspath actually attended a Bible college – he was going to BE a minister. ROTFLMAO!!! He wasn’t charismatic enough to pull it off, though – thank goodness!
still reeling:
I loved your posts. I get it. I have had the same fantasies about mine maybe saying something “real” to me. He actually did say some nice things to me AFTER I left my job, but more than one person told me it was only because he was afraid I was going to turn him in. I am not sure about that. That’s the thing with spaths…you never know WHAT to think. They keep our minds churning and churning.
I hope you are well today…
That is funny T.speak! I asked Godzilla more than once if he was ever a clergyman. Glad your exspath didn’t make it but I hate to think of all those that have. Can you imagine? Ugh.
I hear ya Louise…same here…all the nice stuff at least from Godzilla had to do with keeping me on his side. I’m not at all surprised that Beatle-boy was doing the same. You’re right…the churn is infuriating, trying to make sense out of that which can’t be made sensible!! Hell, just consider how a contrary, spoiled 5yr old brat would act and you just about have it…I can still hear him say, “I DID NOT!” If I hadn’t been so floored, I would have laughed. What a gigantic baby-moron. Real mature response. I promised myself I would give myself time to grieve but this is silly. They are not grief-worthy!! I’m tired of it. Good sign I hope. Picturing him in a diaper with a pacifier in his mouth helps. Not sexy at all. Yech. Hugs
still reeling:
Beatle boy…how funny!!!
Interesting, he kind of said the same thing in the same manner as Godzilla did. It was when I think I said something to him about him really liking the OW and he said, “I do not, she’s stupid!” Hahaha!
I swear they were twins.
sorry, wrong thread
Still reeling, Sky said her X used to walk around in a tee shirt and no underwear and eat cereal out of a bowl…talk about UN-sexy!
Oxy and stillreeling,
yes, he did this after he had gotten fat, so it looked doubly UN-sexy. His big belly looked like a baby’s fat belly. He actually ate the cereal out of a cup, just like a baby. And it was at that point, that he made the comment, “when I was a little kid, I used to walk on my tippy toes because the floor was cold.” Then he proceeded to do just that.
The emotionally arrested development was blatant for all to see, but I missed it.
Still Reeling,
Wow, I missed so much today. My phone bailed, and I gotta get a new one.
Anyway, Still Reeling, you said something. “his face would actually look a different shape at different times”how is that possible??”
I have to tell you that it felt to me that my ex spath did the same thing. It was really strange. I couldn’t get over it. I would go see him again and again trying to understand it. I took pictures of his face to watch how it changed.
I thought about it a lot, and I think it’s this. We all have personalities. We’re democrat or republican, easy going or type A, ambitious or lazy, empathetic or cold, whatever.
This personality shows up in our bodies and in our face. You can see a person’s personality in their body. (You can read FEAR OF LIFE for more about this). Anyway, I realized that my spath HAS NO PERSONALITY. HE HAS NO CORE. He BLOWS IN THE WIND. He is completely arbitrary on the day, moment, whatever. And because of this, his LOOKS ACTUALLY CHANGE.
That’s my theory.
Athena
Truthspeak
You said something interesting
The mad, passionate “love” that people talk about is hardly sustainable. When people first get physically involved, it’s all new and exciting ”“ they’re in HEAT, not “love.”
I have been watching a TV miniseries on DVD called MYTHOS by JOSEPH CAMPBELL which I highly recommend. Anyway he mentions the same thing, and he says, over time, hopefully PASSION turns into COM-PASSION.
That’s the only way to keep things together over the long haul.
I think he’s right.
XO
Athena