“How did he really feel?” and “What did he want from me?” are two questions that often haunt victims of sociopaths. The reason we are haunted by these questions varies but often stems from the habit of over-focusing on the sociopath instead of ourselves. That being said, victims also have a healthy ”˜need to know’ that can help with recovery and healing.
I struggled with these questions in my own healing. I remain baffled by my observations of enjoyment of affection on the part of sociopaths. Early on, I told my own therapist that I had come to the conclusion that sociopaths exploit those close to them to the point of death, then, cry at the funeral. At the moment the tears are shed, I believe they do represent a grief of sorts. The feelings of loss experienced by sociopaths are however, short lived. Victims also have to beware because, although sociopaths are said to be incapable of feelings for those in their lives, they do become obsessed with them. Psychologists have not yet explained this obsession. If they don’t attach, why are they obsessed? Those who have read my other entries know that I believe that sociopaths do attach. It is what they do with attachments that is disordered.
How did he really feel?
In response to the picture of a sociopath crying at his victim’s funeral, my therapist said, “He feels what he tells himself he feels.” To help you understand what my therapist meant, I will explain what is known about how people usually experience feelings.
There are two components to feelings. The first is a physical sensation. When we experience a feeling we feel something in our bodies in relationship to that feeling. Think about loving someone close to you and sense how your body feels. Is it warmth in your heart? That is usually what people report.
There is much evidence that these physical sensations are disordered in sociopaths. Sociopaths do not generally experience the physical and hormonal changes that go along with feeling emotion. If they do experience them, it is to a lesser degree. Physical responses are blunted.
The second component of feelings is called attribution. Attribution is a cognitive process. When I feel that warmth in my heart as I see my children, I attribute the sensation to my love for them. Thus the physical sensation alone does not make emotion. Emotion is physical sensations and our interpretations of these sensations. There is also evidence that the parts of the brain responsible for attribution do not function properly in sociopaths.
There is one emotion that many sociopaths experience in a not so disordered way. This emotion is anger. Sociopaths do have blunted physical responses to anger. Despite this blunted responsiveness, they seem aware of angry feelings and make correct attributions about what makes them angry. Again, science has not even addressed, much less explained this observation.
Since the physical sensations and attributions that allow for the experience of emotion are disordered in sociopaths, their inner world is very different. They are left to make sense of themselves and others without the tools most of us use. Other parts of the brain fill in the missing processes. The person who is credited with first describing sociopathy in depth is Hervey Cleckley. He proposed that sociopaths are at least of average if not above average verbal intelligence. This makes sense because they have to use their verbal intelligence to make up for their lack of emotions. They do indeed feel what they tell themselves they feel. Scientists say they mimic other people’s emotions, yet again there is no real proof of this.
What did he want from me?
This question is easy to answer intellectually, but very hard for victims to accept emotionally. There are three pleasures we get from our love relationships. The first is pleasure in affection. The second is sexual pleasure. The third is pleasure associated with dominance and control. Sociopaths experience sex and dominance as enormously more pleasurable than affection. Therefore, they are in relationships to get sex and power, pure and simple.
If you love deeply and feel affection for others, you cannot fathom the inner world of an emotionally disordered person whose primary pleasures are sex and power. To understand another’s world you have to imagine yourself experiencing what the other experiences. You can’t do this with a sociopath.
Louise Gallagher said in her post The six steps of healing from a psychopath that the first step is acceptance. We have to accept that we can only know in part how sociopaths really feel and what they want from us. We can understand intellectually, but never emotionally.
ToBe: Just checking in here and the first thing i say was peeps telling you to take your profile down…..I REALLY HOPE YOU DID!!~I’ve thought I should at times, but wasn’t allowed…so that tells me you NEED to do this if you haven’t already!!!
Yes…I know. I get these emails that someone is interested in me…and they are ALL ridiculous! Waste of time and I don’t really want to have a man in my life right now…at ALL!
I will be deleting my profiles tonite…
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Easter always meant a NEW BEGINNING to me…
This year…it really IS a new beginning!!!
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TOWANDA!! And Happy Easter again!
Hope the Easter Bunny doesnt crap all over your Easter cake!
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Good morning everyone-getting ready for work and thought I’d say hello. Today is my late day-10:00 to 6:30 but guarateed to be there later and also on call all night. Actually I’m on call four nights in a row-who did I piss off? Oh well-I could use the OT this week I guess. Waiting for some more educational books to get here so I can continue to find out why I am the ultimate s’path magnet. Have a good day everyone.
I recently just realized a few days ago from a friend that recommended a book for me to read called Why does he do that? That I have been dealing with a sociapath for 10 years of my life. I have tried to figure this man out for the longest and always knew that something was wrong with him, and not me but, going thru the charateristics of a sociapath I see him in every one. I have struggled many years with pain and sorrow, low self esteem because of all the infidelities i found out about and the constant lies. Just living with someone you don’t trust but don’t want to let go of is torture in itself. I just can’t believe someone who tells you they love you and acts crazy about you would treat someone so cold and callous. I have too much to say when it comes to my ex. I still deal with him due to the fact we have two kids together, everything makes sense now and knowing that there was nothing I could have done to save my relationship with him helps me to understand that I did everything I could have done. I hate the fact that I am still being abused by him from the constant thoughts I have every minute of the day of how much I put up with this man. I knew he was troubled it took me some time to grasp that because he lied so much I just felt like I wanted to help him. I can’t wait until the day comes when he is completely out of my system. I am just baffled that these people exist. I recall a time when I would tell him that he is a liar, cheater, manipulater, have no conscience, user, gigolo, coldhearted, mean, when he would treat me bad and have me emotionally drained and upset. The only thing I knew he was good at when I think back on it is that he is very charming and he would just say things that made me feel loved, the sex was great. In realization that was the only time we really got along well together and when I didn’t complain about what he did which was rare, because he was always up to something. He was always secretive, and I never fully trusted him, even after the first 6 months of dating. I have ran through every emotion from feeling stupid, angry, wanting revenge, still loving him, wanting him, hoping he will change, wanting to believe him when he tells me he loves me and the kids although his actions say differently, I don’t know whether to feel sorry for him because of his disorder of not being able to feel love for someone only imitate it. He definitely was a good actor. But I know he also is miserable and have bouts of depression. He sometimes wonders what is wrong with him because he says he loves me he just has a funny way of showing it. He still bothers me from time to time because we have kids together and I have to stay strong because he knows how to push my buttons and have me doing stupid things for him again,like giving him my sex and money. Knowing what i know now I feel that finally I can move on for good because he will never change and even now he is with someone much younger and he tells me she is just a piece of ass, but if she hasn’t picked up the red flags she is definitely getting ready to go on a emotional roller coaster ride. I hope he leaves me alone and doesn’t try to make my life even more miserable because I told him we need to move on from each other for good it’s not healthy for us or the kids and we all deserve to be happy and I have even started dealing with him differently. But he has always told me I’m stuck with him for life. and there were many years I believed that but not now. He tells me I make him suicidal. All in all I just want to get away from this without being a victim and I mean that in a physical way. He has very serious anger problems. I know I’ve said alot and I probably am all over the place, but he has done so much to me in the last 10 years I am just throwing out bits and pieces. Sometimes I can’t even believe how I still care for him. I feel sick! I really need to take care of me and love me to be thinking about this fool. He really lost a wonderful woman and two beautiful kids. He is the loser. To think this is all a game to him just disgust me. Can’t believe I attracted a predator!
Godschild,
Welcome to Lovefraud, although we’re sorry you need to join us. There are many articles in the archives that will help you to understand what you are dealing with and help you be strong as you put him out of your life. Just click on the categories on the left side of the screen.
Best wishes in your journey of recovery.
Dear Godschild,
We’ll be right here because we’ve been right there.
Godschild,
Yes. Charming is wonderful. But, not congruent with their actions.
You will find hope, support, validation, and so much more here.
WE want to and try to trust THEM. THEY accuse US, and blame US, and place guilt on US for daring to question further. We are thrown off balance. Bottom line THEY do not RESPECT us.
Red flag. Never being able to fully TRUST him. Why why why. QUESTION FURTHER! Then he turns it around on us. Oh my, WHAT was THAT? DON’T BACK DOWN! BUT they controlled us. And we did back down, not ever knowing the answers. Not allowing full trust.
He is the LOSER, Cheater, Liar, User. NOT to be trusted. Which WE WANT to. It is our core human nature to trust…until they hurt us. Then we are wary. Which says PREDATOR to me.
Welcome Godschild. There is so much good information here to READ.
This site of Donna’s is FULL of respect, insight, information, and is helpful in our soul search. We are all at various stages of healing and discovery.
We are here. We KNOW the feelings.
Going through such SIMILAR things. Same stories. Ups. Downs. Learning. Growing. Finding boundaries. What allowed them to gain entrance and run around in our lives. Hijacking our emotions and souls.
Take Care. And prayers for you and your children,
Angel