This week a reader asked about a disorder called ODD and its relationship to sociopathy. ODD or oppositional defiant disorder is a childhood disorder. According to the American Academy of Child and Adolescent Psychiatrists:
In children with Oppositional Defiant Disorder (ODD), there is an ongoing pattern of uncooperative, defiant, and hostile behavior toward authority figures that seriously interferes with the youngster’s day to day functioning. Symptoms of ODD may include:
• Frequent temper tantrums
• Excessive arguing with adults
• Often questioning rules
• Active defiance and refusal to comply with adult requests and rules
• Deliberate attempts to annoy or upset people
• Blaming others for his or her mistakes or misbehavior
• Often being touchy or easily annoyed by others
• Frequent anger and resentment
• Mean and hateful talking when upset
• Spiteful attitude and revenge seeking
I interpret these symptoms as evidence for excessive social dominance motives combined with problems with ability to love in a child/teen. Social dominance motives cause these children to dislike authority and to attempt to control others (both children and adults) by annoying and upsetting them (teasing too). Recent studies have shown that hormones connected to social dominance motives may play a role in ODD (higher androgens and lower cortisol)*.
A major developmental task for humans is to learn to love. That learning begins immediately at birth. A very elegant series of studies by Patricia Hawley Ph.D. and others has demonstrated that Social Dominance motives begin later, in the toddler years.
During childhood the social motives for love and power have to integrate and balance each other. A loving peaceful family life is central to this integration. Also the power motive must be shaped. This shaping of the power motive has two aspects to it. First children learn the best prosocial ways to enjoy power. They learn to restrain their aggressive and sadistic impulses. In children with ODD and CD (the precursors to antisocial personality in adulthood) this learning doesn’t happen.
Children also learn to channel some of their power motives in to achievement motivation. Disinterest for achievement and disinterest in school are linked to antisocial behavior in children and teens because absent achievement dominance motives lack appropriate channels for expression.
ODD is often connected to CD (conduct disorder) and ADHD, but may also occur without these other disorders. Many studies have examined the extent to which ODD is genetic and environmentally determined. Both genes and environment interact to cause ODD.
In a paper that is now 11 years old Distinct Contributions of Conduct and Oppositional Defiant Symptoms to Adult Antisocial Behavior : Evidence From an Adoption Study Douglas R. Langbehn, MD, PhD and colleagues presented their study of 197 adopted children a quarter of whom had a biologic parent with sociopathy. They concluded:
It seems plausible that a genetically transmitted liability to sociopathy might manifest earlier in life as the personality-like symptoms of ODD rather than the behaviorally oriented criteria for conduct disorder. After all, it is difficult to conceive of a gene for stealing cars. On the other hand, genetic influences on temperament leading to typical ODD features do not seem so far-fetched.
They also stated that independent of the antisocial behavior seen in CD, the behavior that manifests as ODD is an independent risk factor for adult sociopathy:
STUDIES SUCH as that by Loeber et al, which found that severe childhood conduct disorder is often preceded by ODD, suggest the hypothesis that ODD may only be a risk factor for sociopathy if it is a predecessor to a conduct syndrome. This idea is not supported by our data, because the ODD component was found to be an independent risk factor. Furthermore, examination of the joint distribution of estimated component scores in males (not shown) demonstrated that many adoptees had elevations in the ODD component only.
It is important for parents to realize that not every child with ODD or even CD becomes an adult sociopath. Parenting can make a difference for a substantial percentage of children. Even the most loving and devoted parents should get professional help with their ODD/CD kids.
Professional help is needed because these kids are so hard on parents and the development of parental resentment and negativity is linked to a bad prognosis for these kids (though the chicken and egg here have not been determined). Parents should be realistic, protect themselves and yet try to stay hopeful and positive. They should be loving and yet set firm limits. They should also spend lots of quality time with their kids and supervise them closely. These are exceedingly difficult tasks to accomplish!
You might be wondering why I haven’t commented on the proposed DSM V revision of antisocial personality. Since we want everyone to give us their unbiased, independent reactions, I am not going to comment until we close the survey. Please complete the survey so we can send the strongest possible message to the DSM committee. These criteria will be very important in legal procedings and in public education.
* I have posted the summaries of articles about Antisocial Disorders, ASPD, ODD and CD on a new web site My Psychology Professor*. This web site is intended to help students of psychology find articles and write term papers. I hope it will also be a source for people who want detailed information about topics in psychology. There is also a complete collection of papers about social dominance on this site.
Dear Liane,
Thanks for this great artricle. I have worked with these children in an inpatient setting, and seen a few in the “free world” and worked with a few in the outpatient setting along with their parents.
In many of these kids, I have seen the “joy” that they obviously feel when they are defying authority. I have also observed this behavior in two year olds when they are playing the game of running away and coming closer to you but not letting you “catch” them. In the two year old I think this is a normal activity, and has no other meaning than the child is learning he is independent from mommie, but in the 10-12 year old kid, it seems to have a malovent component. It is sort of like the smirk of a P who has successfully pulled one off or is about to.
I have known parents who felt (and I believe were) unsafe to go to sleep in the same house with these children as young as 10, for fear the kid would burn down the house while they slept.
I also had a patient whose 14 year old bit her so severely that I actually had to take a few sutures to keep the wounds from gapping open, there were almost chunks bitten out. Getting help from social services was difficult, as it is set up some how I think to protect the KIDS from an abusive parent, but not so much to protect a parent from an abusive child.
I called social services about this situation, and they told me that if the mother did not return home, that they would prosecute HER for child abandonment. I instructed the mother to drive her car to her home, but not to get out, to sleep in the car in the yard with the DOORS locked until morning, at which time we could contact someone else. We finally did get a judge to get this child picked up by the sheriff’s office and sent for inpatient evaluation the next day.
At one institution I worked at, we had about 60 of these kids from age 7 to 17 (on various units not together) and some came from horrible social backgrounds but many also came from “good” families, and quite a few were adopted as infants.
Witsend’s son seems to have been more like my P-son, and not started “acting out” really badly until puberty hit and the definance set in. We also had another poster on here some months or a year back who had a 10 or 12 year old daughter she was having a horrible time getting placed in an inpatient setting. The frustration felt by the parents when there is no help for them until the child either hurts someone severely or themselves can be crazy-making for the parents. Plus the fact that when the child misbehaves the parent is blamed for not “making them behave.”
Witsend was told by several people “just make him take his medication”—how do you physically FORCE a 16 year old to take a pill? At gunpoint? Even the best parent is hog-tied when the child knows they can’t be “made” to do something and they are totally unwilling to cooperate, either by the “carrot method” or the “stick method” either—as there is no prize they care enough about to strive for, or no “stick” big enough to make them afraid of punishment.
Liane,
What a wonderful help you are!
I don’t know how to thank you — you are making it so easy to conduct research on personality disorders. This is a great contribution to academia as well as “the real world.”
My son is at risk. His father is a perfect match for the proposed category “antisocial/psychopathic type,” and my son has been suspected of ODD in the past.
I’ve been working with him assiduously to explore his behavior and to explain why it isn’t appropriate even when it “feels” right, because it’s genetic. He’s made great strides — he has become so self-aware now, and I’m proud of him.
But we had some rocky moments…that’s for sure.
At any rate, I’m now studying psychology — the beginning stages — and sharing with him. I’m taking a full load of courses in the fall. Even if I don’t make the great breakthroughs, he might. He is also quite interested in psychology, and wants to go to medical school, so perhaps he will use this to take the knowledge further.
Thank you. THANK YOU!
Thanks Liane, I often wondered what the difference was between CD and ODD.
My heart goes out to these parents.
Sometimes there really is very little a parent can do.
Dear Trophy,
Congratulations on working with your son, and helping him to “get it.” While genetics DO have some input, they are not destiny, at least not early on before the “concrete is set”—as in the case with my own P-son.
Thanks for posting, and glad you are here reading, there is so much good information here. God bless you.
Liane:
Thank you so very much for answering my question.
I’m just delving into this ‘topic’ as I believe this could be a big issue with one of my kids.
Your last paragraph struck me …..
” the development of parental resentment and negativity is linked to a bad prognosis for these kids (though the chicken and egg here have not been determined). Parents should be realistic, protect themselves and yet try to stay hopeful and positive. They should be loving and yet set firm limits. They should also spend lots of quality time with their kids and supervise them closely. These are exceedingly difficult tasks to accomplish!”
I wrestle with times (when i let so much go)….and I expect one simple thing to help me….and I’m blown off with no regard. I grow resentment and ‘shut down’…..
I’m not sure I can do much at this point in life….he’s almost 18 and makes poor choices.
I thank god he’s not involved in drugs or criminal behavior…..but I don’t know whats around the corner for him.
I CAN”T support his behaviors.
If he knows something will hurt me or put me in a bind…..he’ll do it.
this is where my resentment grows. I’m in a resentment phase.
I”m tired!!!!
He has no problem asking for whatever he wants and even at his age throws tantrums. He was a wicked tantrum thrower at 2 even! WICKED!
I don’t want to give up…..BUT….I need to learn how to put ME first….take care of my health and well being above his….I have NEVER learned how to do this….it was part of my ‘style’ of mothering….’it’s for the kids’….
I am thankful that they had my influence…..as their father wasn’t around as much….BUT….they all have his genes….and this one definately challenges me the most!
I feel stuck with it…..how do I cope…without giving up!
At 18 do I boot him…..or do I continue to try and ‘help’ him?
Is it too late….do I let him ‘fly’ on his own….and let the world teach him what I have tried?
Do I watch him grow into a diagnosable Sociopath?
Thanks again for your response, it’s very helpful knowledge!
to let everyone know ”“ i made a ’valentine’s card’ for us @.......
http://lfvalentinescard.blogspot.com
anything you want to post, just send it through to me at the email listed there.
someone please tell hens when he shows up.
going bakc to bed now.
x one step
OneStep You made my Valentines Day ( someone please tell hens when he shows up ).. That was nice to think of me. I have been feeling like my presense here is not that wanted. Maybe it’s just the Valentine Day thing that has me feeling blah. But really you made my day..I want to wish you and everyone here a very happy valentines day. Well maybe I dont really cause it sucks big time..But if’n I could I would give everybody here a big hug and box of chocolates
hens….! if you didn’t post in the middle of the night, really you keep vampire hours! i only get to hang out with you if i stay up really late. i think we have a lot of east coast folks here.
i’ll be taking the big box of chocolates, thank you very much!
and huuuugss, yep, right back at cha!
okay, really going to be now. i am not a well cookie today.
x night night
Hens…..
get your bouncy hair on…..were all going on a date tomorrow night!
BTW…..Bring the Godiva!!!
XXOO
Don’t ever question your ‘worth’ around here…..you keep me laughing….