Editor’s note: The following guest post was written by Bruce Rubenstein, M.D., a psychiatrist based in New York City.
Knowing how I know myself, and others ”¦
By Bruce Rubenstein, M.D.
Introduction
In this piece, when referring to psychopaths, sociopaths, the personality disordered, malignant narcissists, etc, I shall refer to them as pronouns in italics, as I believe they are all one and the same on a continuum. The various widely used terms to designate them (e.g., sociopath, malignant narcissist, etc.), mostly all clinical in derivation, all carry with them associations and assumptions of which I believe much is incorrect and misleading. So rather than evoking those associations, I will just use italicized pronouns as a stylistic way to separate them from us.
Knowing
In the journey to understand ourselves and them, and in order to heal from relationships with them, one must go through an anguishing process of re-evaluating everything we thought to be true. We must transcend the chaos and confusion they infused through manipulation and distortion in order to attain clarity using our rational minds. As one very wise person who grew up with them as parents once remarked about the healing process: “Start with the head; the heart will catch up later.” We want to understand the TRUTH, but it is crucial to take a moment to contemplate how we know things. At first glance, the question may seem abstract and overly philosophical. However, it is not. Take a moment to think about your experiences with them. Once you thought you knew them. Now you know them differently. Which is the TRUTH? The answer is in understanding “how” we know things. In philosophy, this is called epistemology. Others study how we know things in the fields of consciousness, psychology and neuroscience. Let’s focus on two closely related aspects of how we know things.
The first is what we REALLY mean when we say, “I know.” What we REALLY mean is that we’ve made something or someone familiar to us. In other languages, there are distinct verbs that convey this difference: French connâitre or Spanish conocer”—to be familiar with,” such as a person, versus French savoir or Spanish saber, meaning “to know” intellectually. Thus, when we encounter something or someone new, we will frequently use metaphor or simile, both ways of relating “new” to “familiar.” The first time you taste rabbit, for example, you might say, “It tastes just like chicken” (“rabbit” is new; “chicken” is familiar). Or, perhaps you might be walking down a Parisian street and comment, “This is sublime.” Here too you are relating something new, i.e., the sentient experience whilst walking in Paris, with a feeling with which you are already familiar: sublimity. So, too, of encounters with others. Upon perceiving various aspects of someone’s personality, you will frequently relate your responses to something familiar to you and then over time have the sense that you “know” that person. We all do it, but it is worthwhile to take a few moments to appreciate how frequently we take something/someone new, make it familiar to us, and then say to ourselves, “I know it,” or “I know him/her.”
The process by which we relate something or someone to the realm of familiarity is a product of consciousness. Consciousness is the state of being aware of what we are perceiving as opposed to other animals that, to the best of our knowledge, do not have consciousness. Whilst awake, we “live” in our conscious minds almost always. Ninety-nine percent of the time, after we perceive something, we “translate” it into something our consciousness understands. Here is a critical point: Our consciousness understands thoughts and their representation—words or symbols. We are quite sophisticated in that we have the ability to combine many words and many thoughts and string them together into theories, basic assumptions, narratives, and so on.
But this realm of consciousness is quite limited for several reasons. First, there is a limit to how many “things” it can contemplate and put together at one time. Let’s use a flower as an example of something we are contemplating. When we contemplate that flower in any one moment in time, there are lots of things going on in the roots, stem, petals, etc. In the non-visual realm, photosynthesis and metabolic processes are occurring. Our conscious brain, however, cannot “think” about everything going on in that flower at one time. We focus on one thing or the other, despite the fact that the actual flower’s existence is not broken down into parts—it is a complete, whole being. Our conscious mind’s process of breaking things down into parts thus creates an artificial sense of what the flower truly is. Of course, we can acknowledge this point but in truth, our limited conscious mind cannot contemplate the entire or whole existence of the flower at one point in time.
Moreover, even the notion of “time” is a product of the limitations of consciousness. For example, we cannot “think” about a flower’s entire lifecycle all at once: sprouting, growing, blooming and then fading. We break it down into chunks of time. But in reality, that flower’s “real existence” is not broken down into arbitrary or artificial time segments. It’s a continuum of life.
[To imagine what it would be like to not exist “consciously,” think about dreaming. In dreams everything is all jumbled. You are everyone in your dream and everyone is you. Time is relative. In the dream you had last night, perhaps you crossed the country in one minute. Perhaps you were in one place with one group of people and in the very next moment, you were somewhere else with entirely different people.]Memory and concentration studies bear out this point by demonstrating that we can only reliably think about roughly six to eight things at one time. We have known this for quite some time, and it is the reason that your telephone number has seven digits. The telephone company did studies back in the 1950s to see how many digits an individual could remember as one “phone number” and the ideal number was seven. (Please remember that it was before area codes. In those days, if you wanted to phone a different “area code,” you’d have to phone the operator.) Today some countries, like France, have instituted eight digit numbers. However, the ideal number of digits is seven.
But life’s challenges obviously involve much more than recalling seven digits. We deal with more input or perception by creating “buckets” or “categories” in our minds. An example: living things. We have created “buckets” like animals, plants, micro-organisms, etc. But if you really think about it, no such buckets exist in nature, in reality. We simply categorize things in order for us to consciously digest them. An analogy might be our digestive systems—we eat “food,” but then break it down into “chunks” (i.e., fats, amino acids, etc.) that are digestible.
It’s crucial to consider this, to consider our own limitations. And consider the fact that each person will probably create different “buckets,” depending on that person’s nature, experiences, etc. For example, someone who is quite concrete and overwhelmed by too many choices will create fewer buckets, possibly even only two buckets, like “Good and Bad,” or “Pretty and Ugly.” The more buckets, though, the more variation based on individual factors. For example, you may have had a talk and shared your experience of them with a friend who is very concrete and never had such an unfortunate experience. That talk was probably unsatisfying and frustrating because your friend puts people into two buckets: “Good” and “Bad.” But after your terrible experience, you now know that it’s not quite so simple. You now have several buckets with varying degrees of “goodness” and “badness.” And not to complicate it even further, but consider the fact that nearly all those who read Lovefraud, and who have had similar experiences, likely have slightly different buckets. Therefore, the important point here is to keep in mind that we create buckets in order to be able to think about things in a distilled form.
As things get more complex, we create different levels or strata of buckets. This is where we get into organizing principles, theories, ways to see the world, and particularly how we experience other people. But these systems of buckets must change over time as we observe things that don’t “fit” with our underlying assumptions, our underlying “buckets.” As one example, Freud created an enormously complex theoretical base to explain all of human mental life and behavior. Frankly, it’s nearly impossible to integrate what we observe about them into Freud’s ideas. Hard core Freudians will go to great lengths to make this square peg fit into one of Freud’s round holes. The reason is that we get very attached to our basic assumptions. That’s human nature, to prefer the “known,” the “familiar,” or to stay in our comfort zone. And the more elaborate that base theoretical construct is, the more we can manipulate it and convince ourselves that it really does explain everything. I’m not picking on Freud, although his theory is quite elaborate. I could have chosen any theoretical approach to understanding human nature, e.g., object relations, Jungian theory, even what they call “strict neuroscience,” looking at neurons and neurotransmitters.
One more important point on consciousness—it tends to either exclude or metaphorize any perception that cannot be put into a thought or word. Thus, everything that deals with intuition is immediately either dismissed or shoved into another construct. But intuition is very real. Think about how many aspects of them you perceive and then make you say to yourself, “What the hell is this?” Well, so much of what we see in them is utterly irrational, unthinkable and indescribable. Our conscious mind, that “tool” we use to think about EVERYTHING, including ourselves and others, doesn’t do well in the realm of irrationality. What then drives us crazy is that despite the irrational nature of their behavior, they all behave in a similar, predictable manner (i.e., lying, cheating, etc.). That is one reason that trying to understand them is so crazy making. The fact that you can predict and observe consistent behaviors in them suggests a cause-effect or rational template to them. We “should” be able to create “buckets” to understand. But it’s NOT rational. Rather, we have all of these other observations about them—those that are more “intuitive,” but for which we lack the words or we lack the ability to incorporate those perceptions in our “rational” conscious mind. The result is confusion—that anguishing confusion every person experiences after interaction with them.
No matter which basic assumptions or theories you use, even a combination of theories, understanding them and how we get involved with them is elusive. We don’t realize how much of our thinking is based on years and years and years of all sorts of basic assumptions, or “buckets,” that we automatically invoke in order to understand or make them familiar to how we are USED to thinking about ourselves, others, goodness and even evil. You may not even have had an “evil” bucket at all. Trying to fit the square pegs of our observations of them into our pre-existing round holes requires far too much time and energy. The healing process, therefore, involves the very difficult and frequently anguishing journey of getting rid of pre-existing “buckets” and creating new ones. By the way, one could call this process, “Personal Growth” or the “Search for Truth.”
As I mentioned at the beginning, the healing process necessarily requires achieving clarity using our rational minds. It is thus helpful to begin with only two buckets, and they are:
1) This makes sense
2) This doesn’t make sense
At first this simple binary delineation may prove harder than you think. This is because you are so used to your old “buckets” that you will find yourself tempted by them. Try to resist the temptation. Try to tolerate the discomfort of not knowing “right now.” To quote a colleague of mine, the process is “tolerating discomfort for the sake of growth.” Over time it will get easier. But even initially, you will begin to feel a certain freedom that will arise as a result of you beginning to trust yourself again. At the core, all good people have good instincts.
There is another important point to make in this regard: Never throw out a perception, even if it doesn’t make sense right now. Many people run into problems by equating a perception that doesn’t make sense with something that is not true. For example, one frequently hears, “I loved him/her.” That observation will go into bucket #2: “It doesn’t make sense to love someone who is not reciprocal, who is hurting me.” But it doesn’t mean it is not true, rather, it doesn’t make sense now. As an alternative, spend some time thinking about what it means when we say, “I love someone.” It turns out it can mean many things to many people. Then keep the observation (“I loved him/her“) on hold. Don’t discard it as not true just because now it isn’t making sense to you. Allow for the possibility that it doesn’t make “rational” sense right now, but at one time it did make sense. It doesn’t change the reality of your clearer mind today that it doesn’t make sense. You can come back to it later. In the meanwhile, without you even noticing, you are learning to be more accepting of what you do not “know,” or of what is not familiar to you. Clearly mistreating others should NEVER be familiar to you. Learning to accept that which we do not understand right now is not only crucial to healing, but also exigent to what it means to be most human throughout our lives. Patience and acceptance bring peace.
Postscript
After letting the ideas presented here percolate for a while, it may be clear to you why I use the “buckets” of italicized pronouns (e.g., he, she, them) rather than using terms such as sociopath, narcissist, etc. Even the way in which we write or read about them is part of how we “know” them.
Hi everyone. Don’t know if most of you on here remember me. I last posted in June 1008, after a tumultuous relationship with a man from Nov 1998 to May 2006 – almost 7 years of hell….I havent stopped reading posts on here, and have learnt a hell of a lot about these disordered creatures, and am in a good place however I have now met, what I think is, a wonderful man, but I cant help looking for red flags. Unfortunately for me I am back here leaning on you all for some advice. Im not sure what to think – there are so many similarities making me so very confused. This guy definitely has empathy (well does he? or is it just an act ?? ).. Ok here I go ..this is what I have picked up in the last 7 weeks of “dating”
– Has had, I cant count, what seems like hundreds of job
– Has lived in dozens of Australian cities, and in Austria and Hong kong in his life (he is 50 years of age)
– He describes himself as being a “serial monogomist” (hope thats the right spelling)
-Owns a car (I think)
-Has been in this job since Feb 2010 (I.T. technical director), yes its legit..
-Studied at Uni in his 40s .. no I dont have concrete evidence
-Extremely high I.Q. – 132 – at least thats what he tells me
-A lot of fun………..
-Lives for the “day”
-Yes, charming, and great in the bedroom
-He has 2 sisters, 1 brother, 1 half brother, parents both alive but
never married and hasnt any kids
-Always has a story to tell. (talks much much more than I do, and that is SAYING something !)
I find myself stopping my feelings because of my fear, because of the pain I endured with the ex-S…and constantly looking for those red flags. To date, there hasnt been any request for money….and I know he lives pay day to pay day.
How harshly do I judge him ?
How much do I believe ?
Ive asked for photos of his childhood, and he tells me that his family isnt “into photos”, however his sister recently was married – and sure enough there were plenty of photos ?? !!
Im not sure if he’s just a good time party guy or a serial liar.
Everyone thinks he is just “divine” .. bells ringing for me …….
I feel afraid.. I cant talk to anyone else, as you know what the reaction will be ” …..Oh Rina, just enjoy ….. you’re having fun … little do they know !
He doesnt wear a watch, neither did the ex-S, he is grumpy in the morning, so was the ex-S, he gets along famously with everyone I introduce him to , so did the ex-S…and the list goes on……im so scarred and its doing my head in. Also he confessed to being locked up for drug dealing (cocaine)..and later tells me he did only a weekend with some community work for a year ?? !! ?? …. how harshly do I judge this man if he is confessing like this, and supposedly being upfront about his past?.. Will I ever trust a man again……..
Some feedback would ease my head. Thank you. Looking forward to reading your comments…its a hard one, and only time will tell – makes me sad to think we need to be “on guard” when meeting new men/women after meeting with the ‘devil’ 🙁
Rina
rriinnaa I am very new at dealing with SP but I have to tell you that there are a lot of red flags that would scare me in your situation. I would think twice and get answers to the unanswered questions to your satisfaction. Follow your gut feelings they are usually right.
rriinnaa if alarm bells ring listen to them. You know the drill. Hundreds of jobs? Red flag. Describes himself as a “serial monogamist”? Red flag. ( I would peruse this further. Does he mean that he will not commit to any woman or be tied down in a “relationship” ? )
Look for grandiosity and ingratiation. Does he often speak too highly of himself? Consider himself to be genius, set apart from all others? Special? Unique? Does he flatter people often? ( And flatter doesn’t mean compliment… flattering is an action. It’s a means to an end. You WANT something for your flattery )
If you’ve the red flags, tread cautiously. Take it slowly and if he doesn’t accept that you want to take it slowly he isn’t worth your time.
I don’t know if charming and ” A lot of fun” count as red flags because a normal person can be charming and lots of fun ( psychopaths aren’t fun to me, they just mirror you and so as a result you basically live out your fantasy in your head til they rear their “REAL” persona which is far from fun and charming.. ) albeit in different ways.. there is always an undercurrent of ” Should i be trusting this person? Something doesn’t feel quite right.”
remember after the S we are learning to listen to our hunches, not ignore them ( Check out http://www.amazon.com/Other-Survival-Signals-Protect-Violence/dp/0440508835/ref=sr_1_3?ie=utf8mb4&s=books&qid=1292908999&sr=8-3 The Gift Of Fear by Gavin Debecker )
Don’t give out personal information, don’t do something you will regret. Be careful. Psychopaths need to act fast because their mask can’t hold up for a long time. That’s why taking it slow helps, you get to see their true character over time.
Oxy, Gem, Erin.husbands and all my supporters I seem to have gathered up on LF I have made my choice and today is day one of my choice of no contact with any of the two Paths or my three Grandchildren. It was the hardest choice I have ever made in my life and will need a lot of support from you people who understand. I know that my Grandsons will be punished for the rest of there lives if they keep loving me. I thought about the court thing and even if I won there would never be an end to the hurt and pain for the children and me. It was a lose lose situation and the only choice they left me was how I chose to lose. I think and hope this is the best choice for my grandsons so when the paths figure out I mean it then they will start giving the kids more freedom if they realize that I will not let the kids run to me. I do not feel that I am totally abandoning them as they will have other family members to go to if they have to.I do believe that when they are done with me though they will find new prey to pick on.My gut feeling right from eight months ago was no Grandma you can not go to that house they want to control you.They want to use you as a pawn to take the blame for there mistakes they need a fall guy.They can not look bad or wrong they have to blame someone all these thought have gone through my mind over and over to the point I was starting to believe I was crazy and still wonder as most people think I am crazy because these people are good at what they do they are smooth good talkers they repeat things over and over in a smooth voice with fixed eyes that make you shiver. Even if I taped them unless you seen there eyes you would really think that they were trying to make things work. I am sure they taped the conversation for there own benefit. It is a lose lose situation and I will be dammed if I will give them a reason for a restraining order. I sure hope I done the right thing because so far I and one son actually think I did. The rest think I was wrong they say you won’t know unless you try.They do not realize that you can only do so much trying before you realize it is useless. I can not take the pain and hurt anymore. With the dead the morning eventually stops with the living it never ends unless you put a stop to it. I have to do this morn one last time and get on with my life or it will kill me. May God be with my grandchildren.
DG –
If that is what you need to do honey, then you must do it.
Your gut will tell you what is best – listen hard and do what it bids you to do.
You need to forget about what other people might think of you and you need to start NOW with building up your own resilience and health. This is an awful decision to have to arrive at, so you will need to build up your reserves in order to cope with it.
Take a class in something you are interested in. Get plenty of sleep. Eat well. Drink lots of clean water. Go for long walks. Breathe.
Maybe once you are stronger and in a better, safer head-space yourself, you will be able to review the situation and either change it a little – or else be utterly convinced that you still need to stay right as you are, without any contact.
Wishing you peace. x
Distressed Grandmother, you are right… you don’t have to take the pain and hurt anymore, it is a smart decision to let go of that which you cannot control, sounds like most of your family doesn’t understand what’s going on and they might never understand it. Don’t let the spaths keep pulling you into the drama by listening to what they are saying to others. I hope the boys won’t be punished anymore… but I don’t think they will stop loving you. God Bless.
Grama:
You MUST follow your gut.
I agree…..no matter which way you go…..there are hardships.
Once you go NC, keep it NC. Your in it for the long haul.
Don’t ‘come and go’…….
What a hard decision…..I’m sorry your in a position to make this.
My heart is with you darlen.
XXOO
EB
rriinnaa, I think that if you have so many misgivings about this man… that you should listen to you instincts. Have you met any of his friends or family?
Most of what you wrote sound like red flags to me, the jobs, drugs, prison, “live for the day”, and his car is a secret?
Nothing wrong with looking for red flags!! Just be willing to walk away when you see them. I think you are being smart! Everyone should be “on guard” when they meet a new man/woman! That was my problem in the past, I’d see a red flag… and pretend it wasn’t there.
Did you do any research on the term “serial monogamist”? I just looked it up and there are pages and pages of aritcles, here’s a little bit from the Urban Dictionary “one who spends as little time as possible being single, moving from the end of one relationship to the beginning of a new relationship as quickly as possible although the relationships in which many serial monogamists find themselves are also often short lived, the defining aspect of serial monogamy is the desire and ability to enter new relationships very quickly, thus abbreviating any period of single life during which the serial monogamist may begin to ask questions of an existential nature.”
“If someone tells you who they are, believe them.” — Maya Angelou
SC,
you said it. loud and clear.
EB,
Sorry to all. but I’m freaking freezing!!! I just went outside to watch the lunar eclipse for that last 2 hours. What a beautiful thing! The colors were awesome! I need to catch up or go to bed!