Editor’s note: The following guest post was written by Bruce Rubenstein, M.D., a psychiatrist based in New York City.
Knowing how I know myself, and others ”¦
By Bruce Rubenstein, M.D.
Introduction
In this piece, when referring to psychopaths, sociopaths, the personality disordered, malignant narcissists, etc, I shall refer to them as pronouns in italics, as I believe they are all one and the same on a continuum. The various widely used terms to designate them (e.g., sociopath, malignant narcissist, etc.), mostly all clinical in derivation, all carry with them associations and assumptions of which I believe much is incorrect and misleading. So rather than evoking those associations, I will just use italicized pronouns as a stylistic way to separate them from us.
Knowing
In the journey to understand ourselves and them, and in order to heal from relationships with them, one must go through an anguishing process of re-evaluating everything we thought to be true. We must transcend the chaos and confusion they infused through manipulation and distortion in order to attain clarity using our rational minds. As one very wise person who grew up with them as parents once remarked about the healing process: “Start with the head; the heart will catch up later.” We want to understand the TRUTH, but it is crucial to take a moment to contemplate how we know things. At first glance, the question may seem abstract and overly philosophical. However, it is not. Take a moment to think about your experiences with them. Once you thought you knew them. Now you know them differently. Which is the TRUTH? The answer is in understanding “how” we know things. In philosophy, this is called epistemology. Others study how we know things in the fields of consciousness, psychology and neuroscience. Let’s focus on two closely related aspects of how we know things.
The first is what we REALLY mean when we say, “I know.” What we REALLY mean is that we’ve made something or someone familiar to us. In other languages, there are distinct verbs that convey this difference: French connâitre or Spanish conocer”—to be familiar with,” such as a person, versus French savoir or Spanish saber, meaning “to know” intellectually. Thus, when we encounter something or someone new, we will frequently use metaphor or simile, both ways of relating “new” to “familiar.” The first time you taste rabbit, for example, you might say, “It tastes just like chicken” (“rabbit” is new; “chicken” is familiar). Or, perhaps you might be walking down a Parisian street and comment, “This is sublime.” Here too you are relating something new, i.e., the sentient experience whilst walking in Paris, with a feeling with which you are already familiar: sublimity. So, too, of encounters with others. Upon perceiving various aspects of someone’s personality, you will frequently relate your responses to something familiar to you and then over time have the sense that you “know” that person. We all do it, but it is worthwhile to take a few moments to appreciate how frequently we take something/someone new, make it familiar to us, and then say to ourselves, “I know it,” or “I know him/her.”
The process by which we relate something or someone to the realm of familiarity is a product of consciousness. Consciousness is the state of being aware of what we are perceiving as opposed to other animals that, to the best of our knowledge, do not have consciousness. Whilst awake, we “live” in our conscious minds almost always. Ninety-nine percent of the time, after we perceive something, we “translate” it into something our consciousness understands. Here is a critical point: Our consciousness understands thoughts and their representation—words or symbols. We are quite sophisticated in that we have the ability to combine many words and many thoughts and string them together into theories, basic assumptions, narratives, and so on.
But this realm of consciousness is quite limited for several reasons. First, there is a limit to how many “things” it can contemplate and put together at one time. Let’s use a flower as an example of something we are contemplating. When we contemplate that flower in any one moment in time, there are lots of things going on in the roots, stem, petals, etc. In the non-visual realm, photosynthesis and metabolic processes are occurring. Our conscious brain, however, cannot “think” about everything going on in that flower at one time. We focus on one thing or the other, despite the fact that the actual flower’s existence is not broken down into parts—it is a complete, whole being. Our conscious mind’s process of breaking things down into parts thus creates an artificial sense of what the flower truly is. Of course, we can acknowledge this point but in truth, our limited conscious mind cannot contemplate the entire or whole existence of the flower at one point in time.
Moreover, even the notion of “time” is a product of the limitations of consciousness. For example, we cannot “think” about a flower’s entire lifecycle all at once: sprouting, growing, blooming and then fading. We break it down into chunks of time. But in reality, that flower’s “real existence” is not broken down into arbitrary or artificial time segments. It’s a continuum of life.
[To imagine what it would be like to not exist “consciously,” think about dreaming. In dreams everything is all jumbled. You are everyone in your dream and everyone is you. Time is relative. In the dream you had last night, perhaps you crossed the country in one minute. Perhaps you were in one place with one group of people and in the very next moment, you were somewhere else with entirely different people.]Memory and concentration studies bear out this point by demonstrating that we can only reliably think about roughly six to eight things at one time. We have known this for quite some time, and it is the reason that your telephone number has seven digits. The telephone company did studies back in the 1950s to see how many digits an individual could remember as one “phone number” and the ideal number was seven. (Please remember that it was before area codes. In those days, if you wanted to phone a different “area code,” you’d have to phone the operator.) Today some countries, like France, have instituted eight digit numbers. However, the ideal number of digits is seven.
But life’s challenges obviously involve much more than recalling seven digits. We deal with more input or perception by creating “buckets” or “categories” in our minds. An example: living things. We have created “buckets” like animals, plants, micro-organisms, etc. But if you really think about it, no such buckets exist in nature, in reality. We simply categorize things in order for us to consciously digest them. An analogy might be our digestive systems—we eat “food,” but then break it down into “chunks” (i.e., fats, amino acids, etc.) that are digestible.
It’s crucial to consider this, to consider our own limitations. And consider the fact that each person will probably create different “buckets,” depending on that person’s nature, experiences, etc. For example, someone who is quite concrete and overwhelmed by too many choices will create fewer buckets, possibly even only two buckets, like “Good and Bad,” or “Pretty and Ugly.” The more buckets, though, the more variation based on individual factors. For example, you may have had a talk and shared your experience of them with a friend who is very concrete and never had such an unfortunate experience. That talk was probably unsatisfying and frustrating because your friend puts people into two buckets: “Good” and “Bad.” But after your terrible experience, you now know that it’s not quite so simple. You now have several buckets with varying degrees of “goodness” and “badness.” And not to complicate it even further, but consider the fact that nearly all those who read Lovefraud, and who have had similar experiences, likely have slightly different buckets. Therefore, the important point here is to keep in mind that we create buckets in order to be able to think about things in a distilled form.
As things get more complex, we create different levels or strata of buckets. This is where we get into organizing principles, theories, ways to see the world, and particularly how we experience other people. But these systems of buckets must change over time as we observe things that don’t “fit” with our underlying assumptions, our underlying “buckets.” As one example, Freud created an enormously complex theoretical base to explain all of human mental life and behavior. Frankly, it’s nearly impossible to integrate what we observe about them into Freud’s ideas. Hard core Freudians will go to great lengths to make this square peg fit into one of Freud’s round holes. The reason is that we get very attached to our basic assumptions. That’s human nature, to prefer the “known,” the “familiar,” or to stay in our comfort zone. And the more elaborate that base theoretical construct is, the more we can manipulate it and convince ourselves that it really does explain everything. I’m not picking on Freud, although his theory is quite elaborate. I could have chosen any theoretical approach to understanding human nature, e.g., object relations, Jungian theory, even what they call “strict neuroscience,” looking at neurons and neurotransmitters.
One more important point on consciousness—it tends to either exclude or metaphorize any perception that cannot be put into a thought or word. Thus, everything that deals with intuition is immediately either dismissed or shoved into another construct. But intuition is very real. Think about how many aspects of them you perceive and then make you say to yourself, “What the hell is this?” Well, so much of what we see in them is utterly irrational, unthinkable and indescribable. Our conscious mind, that “tool” we use to think about EVERYTHING, including ourselves and others, doesn’t do well in the realm of irrationality. What then drives us crazy is that despite the irrational nature of their behavior, they all behave in a similar, predictable manner (i.e., lying, cheating, etc.). That is one reason that trying to understand them is so crazy making. The fact that you can predict and observe consistent behaviors in them suggests a cause-effect or rational template to them. We “should” be able to create “buckets” to understand. But it’s NOT rational. Rather, we have all of these other observations about them—those that are more “intuitive,” but for which we lack the words or we lack the ability to incorporate those perceptions in our “rational” conscious mind. The result is confusion—that anguishing confusion every person experiences after interaction with them.
No matter which basic assumptions or theories you use, even a combination of theories, understanding them and how we get involved with them is elusive. We don’t realize how much of our thinking is based on years and years and years of all sorts of basic assumptions, or “buckets,” that we automatically invoke in order to understand or make them familiar to how we are USED to thinking about ourselves, others, goodness and even evil. You may not even have had an “evil” bucket at all. Trying to fit the square pegs of our observations of them into our pre-existing round holes requires far too much time and energy. The healing process, therefore, involves the very difficult and frequently anguishing journey of getting rid of pre-existing “buckets” and creating new ones. By the way, one could call this process, “Personal Growth” or the “Search for Truth.”
As I mentioned at the beginning, the healing process necessarily requires achieving clarity using our rational minds. It is thus helpful to begin with only two buckets, and they are:
1) This makes sense
2) This doesn’t make sense
At first this simple binary delineation may prove harder than you think. This is because you are so used to your old “buckets” that you will find yourself tempted by them. Try to resist the temptation. Try to tolerate the discomfort of not knowing “right now.” To quote a colleague of mine, the process is “tolerating discomfort for the sake of growth.” Over time it will get easier. But even initially, you will begin to feel a certain freedom that will arise as a result of you beginning to trust yourself again. At the core, all good people have good instincts.
There is another important point to make in this regard: Never throw out a perception, even if it doesn’t make sense right now. Many people run into problems by equating a perception that doesn’t make sense with something that is not true. For example, one frequently hears, “I loved him/her.” That observation will go into bucket #2: “It doesn’t make sense to love someone who is not reciprocal, who is hurting me.” But it doesn’t mean it is not true, rather, it doesn’t make sense now. As an alternative, spend some time thinking about what it means when we say, “I love someone.” It turns out it can mean many things to many people. Then keep the observation (“I loved him/her“) on hold. Don’t discard it as not true just because now it isn’t making sense to you. Allow for the possibility that it doesn’t make “rational” sense right now, but at one time it did make sense. It doesn’t change the reality of your clearer mind today that it doesn’t make sense. You can come back to it later. In the meanwhile, without you even noticing, you are learning to be more accepting of what you do not “know,” or of what is not familiar to you. Clearly mistreating others should NEVER be familiar to you. Learning to accept that which we do not understand right now is not only crucial to healing, but also exigent to what it means to be most human throughout our lives. Patience and acceptance bring peace.
Postscript
After letting the ideas presented here percolate for a while, it may be clear to you why I use the “buckets” of italicized pronouns (e.g., he, she, them) rather than using terms such as sociopath, narcissist, etc. Even the way in which we write or read about them is part of how we “know” them.
Dear Polly,
Cognitive dissonance of course!!! Word finding difficulty, that is the phrase I have been trying to think of—and it was on the tip of my tongue!!! Just couldn’t get it off there!
“Once your eyes are open, you cannot ever close them again”
I agree so much with the above statement, but I would add, that we SHOULD not close them again, but unfortunately, mine were opened and I purposely closed them again, in denial because I think I REFUSED to see what I knew to be TRUE because if I admitted it was true, like you I would have had to ACT on it and I did not want to act on it, so I denied it was true. I actually LIED TO MYSELF. (Now that’s a TRICK pony fore sure!) LOL
Very true Oxy – I closed mine in denial too – not wanting what I thought was happening to really be true. I think that’s natural when you’re beaten low by the P. You’re so busy putting out fires that you desperately hope no more drama comes your way and put off anything that requires you to change.
This might be a self protection tactic – the human being can after all only handle so much stress, upset, disappointment and pain. It’s so interesting now to look back on all the mental processes going on back then and how I justified things to myself to allow myself to remain. Guess most of us were trick ponies – well I was more of a performing seal really!
Dear Polly,
BELLY LAUGH!!!!! “performing seal!” ROTFLMAO yea, right on!!!
Yes, if we were to admit the truth and stop lying to ourselves (I think I PASSED “DENIAL” and went directly to KNOWINGLY LYING TO MYSELF) we would have to ACT on the truth and we do NOT want to act on the truth, so we either stay in denial or if that is not possible, move on to LYING TO OURSELVES in order to “justify” NOT doing something about the situation. LOL
I look back at my own denial, lying to myself, etc. and I think “MY God woman, how in the world could anyone be so blind?” DUH! People “believe” what they WANT to believe. What FITS with the way they want things to BE.
Think about it.
It is SOOOOO comforting to think that “there is good in everyone”—duh! How much safer our world would be if that were true.
How much “safer we feel” if we can BELIEVE that even if it isn’t true. LOL
“I will be happy when ______________ (fill in the blank) happens.”
I have to say that this is the most confusing blog for me. I have read it over and over and I don’t get the buckets? Always been independent so maybe I did not have ‘buckets’? just read it again, and still don’t understand what the concept is?
Hi Jazzy
Buckets are categories. I think he is saying that humans naturally understand the world around us by categorizing things. But we also categorize behaviors by putting behaviors that look similar into 1 group. the psychopaths know that we do this, so they behave in ways to make a think the opposite of their true intentions. We were not instructed or informed about that category. For us crying means sad, it doesn’t mean evil lies. When we see stuff that doesn’t make sense, we say WTF and put it in the WTF bucket. I think that previous generations had a bucket called witchcraft, and they burned them at the stake. That was removed from our world view, but nothing replaced it -until now.
Wow! skylar I just could not wrap my head around this. I’m not a stupid person, but i could not make heads or tails of the bucket theory. Perhaps because I am an artist I have always been open to new media and don’t think like this?
Well, I guess I should take what I need from Lovefraud, and leave the rest. But…I think I will be able to laugh at buckets from now on! I am bringing 2 buckets (laugh) to my town dump tomorrow to fill with salt sand. I will chuckle as I fill. Hello, Winter!
I just got off the phone with a good friend who ‘gets it’…..we have the BEST conversations……
She was telling me about this guy (I didn’t realize they were ‘aquantances’)…..that we both know.
He’s at very least an N……and I don’t know him well enough, but wouldn’t be surprised if his personality went further…..he’s a high powered exec….yadayadayada…..
She’s felt jilted and called bullshit recently on him and his wife for rsvp’ing yes to 3 parties they had and were no shows…..
The guy acted shocked and confused, didn’t remember any invites blah, blah, blah…..
My Gf is trying to build her business…..and as she’s telling me this story of being ‘done’ with HP N and wifey…..i’m thinking…..
I said, you know GF…..there are 3 types of relationships….Friends, family and steps on a ladder.
I’m not so sure i’d burn the bridge on this step…..just realize he’s only another step on your ladder and don’t let him use YOU as a step. (a friendly version of counter control). Don’t disguise his nice as friendship…..
She pondered this thought…….and said, well it’s frustrating….because he asks about the kids and other personal stuff and I really thought we were friends all these years…..but I got tired of when we invited him and wifey to our home…..they were so blatant and no showed, and it didn’t phase him.
I said…..yes…..but a person with this many hangers on….that’s all they have…..they don’t connect like ‘normal’ peeps…..they construe being surrounded by lot’s of peeps as they have good friends……and you fall under that catagory…..to them!
So…..pull back from thinkingthey are your friends and know they don’t have’friends’ like you and I have…..and just place him on the stepladder of your life…..because he could help your businesss………
This might have surfaced from the spathy side of my brain…..but……tough times call for tough measures……
Does this make sense….or have I lost my reality in spathyville?
Jazzy:
Think of it like this. Your art studio.
You have paper, canvas, watercolor paints, oils, different types/size brushs.
How do you set that up.
You put your brushs in a certain way, you store your canvas’s a certain way, your watercolor paints over there, and your oils over here…….
Now, go into a different artists studio……(or better yet, loan your studio to another artist)……
each person set’s it (thier life) up differently.
I’d keep my oils in a drawer with the palate on top.
You like to keep your palate out so it’s always handy.
I keep my canvas’s on a wooden rack, you stack them flat on top of each other with a foam cushion inbetween.
Does that make sense…..
This is how we all think…..differently…..even though the subject may be the same.
OR go into someones office and try to find the phone number to their boss.
you open the file cabinet…..and rummage through…….you can’t find anything…..
you go through the computer phone contacts……you know the boss’s name is joe smith…..so you look under S for Smith….logical to you….
It’s not there.
You look under J maybe for Joe?…..not there…..
Your perplexed…..
Out of the blue you try B for Boss…..Boom, Joe Smith Boss……
You’d never think of filing it under B??????
You call the persons office your in…..and to them…..they look at you as…..well, why wouldn’t you look under B? He’s my boss???????
We all have ways of relating to things in life….
Hope this makes a bit of sense and doesn’t confuse you more?!?!
First I wish to thank everyone who commented on this piece. The observations and thoughts of those who have “been there” are extremely helpful.
Verity – Your saying, “This does not compute” and “Who knew there were people walking around that could do this?” demonstrate that you’ve done a good deal of work in gaining clarity. Our “guts and intuition” perceive their irrationality and then this perception is at odds with our more rational “buckets.” Decent people don’t, and should not have a rational bucket for irrational, volitional malice.
Ox Drover – It’s not only what we’re taught in our lives. We also make assumptions about others based on our own character. It’s my impression that the sayings such as “There’s good in everyone” need the modifier, “potential.” People have the potential to be good, mothers have the potential to love their children, and two individuals have the potential to respectfully disagree. That potential becomes fact by consciously making the decision to do the right thing. Your comment nicely underscores the element of choice and how we can at least be clear that they chose a dark path even if the motivation is irrational. And yes, the simple “Us” and “Them” differentiation is a very helpful way to think about it and greatly decreases the chances of getting involved with one of them again.
Dancingnancies – Your analogy that “Fruit = Actions” seems right on target. Your citation of the biblical verse is spot on in regard to how we know things. It is my impression that in other parts of the bible, particularly in the story of Adam and Eve, the notion of tasting the fruit is a way of describing “knowing” something, or making something “familiar to us.” Once we “taste” it, we make it familiar to us by putting it inside of us; making it part of us.
Skylar – Your comment, “Who could fake it for 25 years?” cuts right to the heart of what I tried to convey. How can any normal individual conceive of existing as that type of deception for all that time? It reflects a profound, dark emptiness in them. What kind of “bucket” can we have to make that kind of emptiness “familiar” to us? How can we “know” that or what that is? We cannot, even though we are perceiving that darkness in our “guts.” Hence the massive confusion.
Shabbychic – Pretending that something isn’t there is a process of “un-knowing.” You “un-knew” things because they did not fit in a bucket, and for good reasons. The “un-knowing” process is what I meant by discarding a perception.
KatyDid – Many do identify the irrationalities, what you called “Crazy Making Logic.” However in part to retain one’s sanity, one usually ignores or discards those perceptions.
Pollyannanomore – Your story underscores how difficult it is to gain clarity when you are being gas-lit. Your last comment, “…it really made me think about how I thought back then…” reflects the fact that you have already invested a good deal of effort in re-working your “buckets” to be much clearer and to keep your “eyes open.” The open eyes you are referring to are your eyes of intuition. Indeed they will protect you. Don’t forget that now you can use THOSE eyes to also see the beauty in the world and in good people more deeply.
Jazzy129 – I’m sorry you found the piece confusing. Indeed the topic of how we know things is very complex for most people. And many of us think in different ways. Professionally I have found that certain individuals understand things in very different ways. Perhaps the following will be helpful to you. A researcher in Boston found that people have a strong preference to draw lines around things that they are trying to represent. In drawing a person for example, we use a line to outline someone’s body. But think about that for a minute. When you look at someone, there’s no line around him/her. That line is a representation. You need that line to differentiate that person from everything else in the illustration. But that line doesn’t exist in reality. Even if you don’t use a line, you may use color in an abstract painting or perhaps shape in a sculpture. Our conscious mind, what we usually use to think about things, is a medium just like drawing or sculpture. The conscious mind also has lines or colors. These are “buckets” to let us represent something. My main point was remind people that how we think about things is in the end, a representation and is thus limited by the medium. You can change the medium, i.e., change how you think about things, so that your representation is a closer approximation to reality. I hope this helped. Perhaps the ideas here can just percolate for a while; perhaps it will be much clearer to you at another time; or perhaps it’s not particularly helpful to you. As you stated, one can take what one needs. That’s the important thing.