I address this post mainly to my female audience because, in my experience, the pathology I’ll be discussing, while not exclusively male, is more often than not expressed by men against women.
I revisit here what I regard as an important relationship red flag: When you meet a man who seems to be “Mr. Perfect,” someone “you can’t find anything wrong with,” you need to take a good long pause; otherwise, trouble bodes.
Now I’m not talking about, or maligning, the experience of “great chemistry.” Great chemistry, even electric chemistry, where you hit it off instantly, is a good thing and sometimes a good omen.
But there’s an important difference between “great chemistry” versus the sense of having met and experienced “perfection.” The genuine Mr. Right, in other words, is a very different creature than Mr. Perfect, who almost always will be a quack.
There are a number of reasons for this. First, men perceived by the women they meet as “too good to be true” are often men with an agenda to be perceived as too good to be true. These men are often calculating narcissists or sociopaths for whom the game, the challenge, the principal goal, is to disarm their female [target] objects with their apparent, and compelling, perfection.
To advance their agenda these men may exhibit inordinately seductive qualities right from jump—inordinate levels, for instance, of charm, politeness, thoughtfulness, soliticousness, sacrifice and attentiveness (in a word, responsiveness).
But this isn’t a case of their being on their “best behavior,” as new partners normally are with each other; rather, it’s a case of their being on their best “contrived” behavior, their intent being to effect an impression of perfection as if they are cut from a different cloth—specifically, the cloth of male romantic perfection.
These men may want you to regard them as Princes heaven-sent; they may want you to feel that it took something like your lottery-like good fortune to have found them.
Many of them will be seeking the approbation of your social circle; they may want those around you to ask as with shaking heads, “Where did you find him?” “What planet did he come from?” “Oh my God, he’s like”¦perfect!”
These men will often “groom” you not unlike how the sexual abuser grooms his victims—with promises of his special attentiveness, gratification and protectiveness. This exploitive strategy is extremely potent as it accesses deeply-held fantasies to be perfectly loved, protected and embraced.
Other LoveFraud columnists and astute posters have correctly noted that not all of these men are consciously operating as predators. While true, it’s also important not to minimize just how many of these men are, consciously, operating with predatory agendas.
In either case, these are not men who love, respect, or even like women. Rather, they use women for ego-gratifying and ego-masturbatory purposes. And just as the thrill of a masturbatury experience fades fast, so too does the thrill that women give such men fade with often startling, disorienting suddenness.
While this dynamic may or may not confuse the exploiter, it will surely confuse the unalert woman.
In their “grooming” process, these men will often pull out all the stops: they may, for instance, be the best, most attentive lovers you’ve ever had while all the while they’re not actually enjoying the sex because they’re not present; rather, they are watching themselves, and watching themselves with you, as if they’re porno aspirants determined to make a name for themselves, determined to stamp themselves (to legendize themselves, if you will) in your mind.
Many of these men are desperate to be the fantasy of their perfect selves–that is, the fantasy of themselves as special, unique, memorable. And so they tend parasitically (and compulsively) to seek cooperative, vulnerable hosts (such as you) as if to hold for them, store for them their slippery, empty gestures at immortality. (I intend to flesh this idea out in a separate post, recognizing the incompleteness of my explanation.)
We’ve discussed some of these concepts before, but another of them bears repeating: Narcissists, sociopaths and their like will chew you up for the temporary ego-gratifying nutrients you can supply them in the short-term; and then, like a piece of chewing gum from which they’ve extracted all the sugar, they’ll spit you out, devalue and discard you, now that you’ve lost your flavor (and thus use).
(This article is copyrighted (c) 2009 by Steve Becker, LCSW)
No, Skylar, you are NOT the only cynical one here, I am too, but A) I don’t watch much TV B) I don’t keep up with the “stars” much, in fact, I have never even heard of that show much less watched it C) I could care less…. LOL
And yea plenty of them do publicity stunts…sounds like the person who produced that show though is an IDIOT and they are idiots if they thought it would go on very long. They should have had a “plan B” to support that many kids.
Oxy, I think I saw one episode of that stupid show.
It isn’t interesting. YOUR life would be 1000 times more interesting!! I’m not just saying that. My life would be too but it would be too embarrassing… if you only knew what the P made me do.. anyway, the point is, if you watched the show, just once you would see, the prototypical american culture. money,, money , money. it is more obvious than my XP. LOL.
LOLOLOLOLOL…
I am sitting here cracking up at myself for starting such a stupid post on JON AND KATE…..
DAMN EB….GET A LIFE!
Yes, oxy….I have watched the show…..how sad……
I catch it at like midnight…..have NO CLUE why I watch it…..it’s not a good show…….but the drama now is even more stupid.
I will take oxy’s lead and keep the tv off! 🙂
So I am sitting here laughing….really laughing about even commenting about it…..at the time earlier I was wondering if anyone else saw wierd things in this publicity deal…..
I guess I didn’t sleep much last night……
I’m not on the best of game today….
SORRY LF peeps!
Maybe later tonight I will start a debate on the like Jessica Simpson or maybe the flintstones and how Fred may have been an S and really beat wilma……
OH SHUT UP EB! Go to bed!
I have also watched the show. I always have the TV on so I don’t feel so alone. I have a few shows I like… and I also like Turner Classic Movies. Oh, Forensic Files is good too. Nancy Grace kraks me up, although the subject matter is usually horrible.
EB! You crack me up!:)xxx well, at least you are not a 35 year old woman who places the entire collection of buffy the vampire slayer on DVD as one of her most prized possessions!LOL! (clue…her name starts with blue and ends with skies… what was that you said about getting a life?!!)xxx At least I have resisted (for the most part, I think I did allow a little tv demon analogy into one of my posts the other day…but it was a good one!?) bringing it up as a topic too much!:)xx
P.S Fred Flinston … what a scum bag!;-P xxxx
PPS Hope you’re getting some good rest:)x
Dear Oxy,
from some unknown reason i am not able to comment on thread where u posted news about Lily, so hope it is okay if i post it here.
There is a God indeed, and God had mercy on that fantastic, brave woman. I am trully touched and happy that she made it by now, and i am sure she is gonna live better days. Please send her my best wishes for her recovery.
A cry, from the Lilly Bed,
It seems as tho the Lilly beds, been silent, far to long,
Without the sounds of laughter,and the chorus, of Love songs,
The once still peaceful waters,have been troubled, here of late,
For from the bank’s, blow woeful winds,proclaiming unsure fates,
The Lillie’s petals have withdrawn, to hide amidst, the greenery,
Their beauty fails to be displayed,to grace the garden, scenery,
When Beloved enters there to feed,and behold, their loveliness,
He finds His garden in disarray, the Lillie’s, in distress,
Then He begins to calm them, and bring them back, in to His rest,
Speaks ’Wind’s be still,you can not curse,those whom I have blessed’,
Slowly petal’s will unfurl, drawn, towards His Light,
To dance amidst reflection’s, on the pond,til morning light,
Softly at first their voice’s rise, and blend, in harmony,
To sing for the Beloved, a joyful,’ Son Light Rhapsody’.
Lily, dear, here is the song for u, a laughter, love…our hearts goes to u and our hands are holding u. Be strong and be brave, for all of us who love u 🙂 ((((((((hugs)))))))))
Oxy,
I wanted you to see this.(PS I gave Donna my email address to see if you would e-mail me)
Wow. This cuts like a knife.
My P has already gotten sick of his mistress and I let him (yes Oxy I lied to you ALL), sleep with me.
Now he threatens to call CPS when my son has a diaper rash or yeast infection. My attorney doesn’t want me to call the cops about his harrasment because she wants us to settle.
I was hoping the girlfriend would catch on
But she didn’t.
I’m not hurt I let him, just more pissed now than ever that he get’s everything he wants and doesn’t get caught.
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“with promises of his special attentiveness, gratification and protectiveness.”
My S husband always said things like “No one comes between me and my family.” or “No one messes with my family.” He always carried on about how he’d protect me, his princess, his bride, his precious”.posession (20/20).
Staying on the topic of Quacks, how can I reconcile the caring man I was married to with the man who is now out to destroy me?
When we were together…before I found out about the OW things were quite good with the exception of some PA behavior. He was attentive, helpful, most of the time…buttered my bread, gave me the best bites of his steak, gave me the candy pieces from his icecream….
Now he enjoys watching me squirm although I don’t let him see it, he knows JUST how to hurt me…and he knows my menstrual cycle so he knows WHEN to hurt me too.
Recently he decided he was no longer going to drop off our son at my apartment at 6:15 am… after hours of arguing through text I had to drive into the city to pick up my son at dunkin donuts.
Pray for me please we meet with our attorney’s Wed. 10/7
,Dear Banana,
You ask (quote) ” how can I reconcile the caring man I was married to with the man who is now out to destroy me?”
Because they are the SAME person, only the “nice part” was a FAKE.
Quote: “before I found out about the OW things were quite good with the exception of some PA ”
Yea, things were great as long as he could have YOU AND ANOTHER WOMAN, so you old “meannine you” daring to get upset cause he has OW. So now he is punishing you, you bad girl!
What is PA? Physical assault? If things were “quite good” “with the exceptions of some Physical assault” then I think your definition and mine of “good” are pretty far apart!
quote “Recently he decided he was no longer going to drop off our son at my apartment at 6:15 am” after hours of arguing through text I had to drive into the city to pick up my son at dunkin donuts.”
This is typical crap just to inconvenience you, so frankly you can expect it. The less “arguing” you do the better for you, because HE LOVES TO ARGUE ABOUT IT (or anything)
Good luck on your court date!! I will keep you in my prayers.
((((hugs))))))
Oxy:
PA passive aggressive what I refer to as the latent form of P/S/N bahavior.
I know I should have just said “fine”, but isn’t that the same as saying. “Okay, you have total control. I will do what ever you want.” ?
And I didn’t really ARGUE I just didn’t agree. I kept saying “I will expect you here at 6:15”
I don’t want to have to pick my son up at DD’d after every visitation!
Thanks Oxy.